Hermies please explain them to me!

[stihgnobevoli]

. I find it mind boggling that some seem to torture their plants for pleasure or something and they have better results.

it's not for fun, it's the way it's always been done until recently when everyone just got a
1.) tent
2.) 400/600/1000
3.) nutes got cheaper to the point where people can actually afford a whole biobiz line and not be a mersh dealer.
4.) came to the latest "i'm bout to do it big with these clones" thread
5.) got a kut of whatever west koast wonder...plant was most popular at the time.

then all you had to do was follow whatever the last guy did and copy his results. no learning experience gained.

then later you get nannered up plants (not singling anyone out btw) and can't figure out what could be the cause.
it's mostly weak genes, cookie cutter perfect environments don't stress your plants like in the wild. the next generation doesn't have anything to fight against and get better, just actually weakens. like an immune system in a sterile environment. it's the fight that brings out the winners.

if it makes it through my version of plant hell and is still stable and awesome smoke, then it's a keeper. plus the next generation from the seeds i made will be able to tolerate all the shit i put em through better. SOTF.

... sweeth tooth ... 3...2...1... lol

 

[stihgnobevoli]

seed size varies by strain, not an indication of quality. most sativa plants i've seen have tiny seeds, and indicas have the larger seeds. i always found that odd since sativas grow way bigger than indicas. white seeds however are an indication of quality. pale seeds or any kind really are immature, but there could also be white shell matured seeds i've come across one or two in brick weed before. no telling if it came like that or the outer color rubbed off before it got to me.

 

[northerngrafta]

So in your opinion why are seeds smaller then cause they are there is no denying that

 

[hayday]

I had hermi trouble for years.I found my culprit was water temperature.
My water is kept outdoors so it is subject to the temerature there.Well, its different in my grow space so when I watered in the morning I was shocking the roots every winter-spring with cold water.
Now I condition my water so it is room temerature in the grow room.I'm hoping for the best this year...so far so good.

 

[northerngrafta]

If u actually want a resolution for hermies just buy dutchmaster reverse it's a pre diluted spray that reduces/stops hermies

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cannabis_reproduction

 

[stihgnobevoli]

So in your opinion why are seeds smaller then cause they are there is no denying that

i just told you, because sativa seeds are smaller than indica seeds from my own experience. the reason you see small seeds is prolly cuz you're growing hybrids that lean to sativa or have sativa moms?

 

[pinkus]

So in your opinion why are seeds smaller then cause they are there is no denying that

huh??? just don't understand what you are trying to say.

Seed size is NOT an indicator of quality. Some of the best sativas I've seen give carrot seed sized beans... in other words super small, on the other hand I've had Highland sativa strains that have huge beans.

 

[northerngrafta]

What I'm trying to say is seeds aren't what they used to be......you used to be able to get a pack of 10 regular plant em out it conditions that are terrible compared to how we run now and every female was an absolute beauty you can't do that now

 

[pinkus]

I have no problems with hermies or seeds. But then I made the seeds I'm using now But I'm not having any problems with the seeds from Chimera that I bought. Other than that I bought some of BillyGoat's Arcata wreck beans (trainwreck Bx)a few years ago and they were great... in fact the chosen male is the daddy of about 75% of what I've grown lately.

BTW the original trainwreck cut is kinda famous (mostly for being great!) for throwing nanners late in flower but the offspring of the chosen male have shown NO hermie tendencies.

There are great genetics out there and there are shit genetics out there. Be skeptical of hype, grow out some weed and when you have what you consider quality weed, make seed. It's NOT rocket science.

 

[mowood3479]

I would grow less plants so i had a feasible way to reach/see n work around . Each one..
I dont grow much from seed but of the few ive grow. I did see some hermie.
Do u know any other growers or have access to any med shops?
Get the right genetics n u repeatedly could expose them to light leakage, temp swings n various other forms of stress n get no hermies at all.
If possible get a clone of something someone else had been growing for years with no hermie issues..
If not.. Id def seal up that light leak..( If u take dryer ducting n put 2 S curves in it.. Light wont leak thru but air cant still pass thru

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i'm not attacking anyone...don't you love when a post starts off like that lol... but i think a lot of the reason you see hermies and shit in newer crosses is because they don't take the time to stabilize em. you gotta do at least a cubing to get it a little stable and fix a trait. a lot of these newer seed guys don't do that, and you can tell by the strains they're releasing. some new kush crossed to some other plant that may or may not just be some other kush or a relative of the kush in question. gotta hit the street and reap that sucker money off the n00bs chasing the latest greatest hype machine.

you get the seeds none of the pheno's match what they advertised and then you get weak ass plants in the mix. simply due to the laziness of the breeders. you can't just take 2 plants and cross em then sell the seeds as a strain without testing and stressing and fixing traits and breeding out the weaknesses. if they did you wouldn't get your GSC in seed form for like 3 years after all the hype machine dies down.

 

[macdiesel]

People who have bad genetics will blame EVERYTHING on why their shit hermed. Nutes! Over water! Under water! lol

Light leaks? Really?

That's so dumb I can't even begin.

Landraces have for thousands of years been fine with light leaks....you see there's things called STARS, Comets, etc.....oh, and this big round thing called the moon that allows you to SEE IN THE DARK for nights on end.......

But yeah, blame your shit genetics on light leaks. LOL

Online forums are so full of garbage

 

[Podink Stucky]

Landrace strains are outdoor stains. Indoor strains can be alot more susceptible to phenomenom such as hermies created by light leaks. Granted good solid genetics are less likely to herm under stress. Herms are caused by poor breeding and negative variables. Growing good pot is about removing negative variables as you cannot exceed genetic potential.

 

[supermanlives]

unstable genetics ,light,stress of any kind. sativas seen to herm more than indigas in my experience .I got a few strains that have never hermed even when shit went wrong.those strains are all inbred lines

 

[macdiesel]

Landrace strains are outdoor stains. Indoor strains can be alot more susceptible to phenomenom such as hermies created by light leaks. Granted good solid genetics are less likely to herm under stress. Herms are caused by poor breeding and negative variables. Growing good pot is about removing negative variables as you cannot exceed genetic potential.

No. There's no such thing as an indoor or outdoor strain.

There's just landrace strains, and then there is strains joe blow has crossed creating unstable genetics.

 

[macdiesel]

stains and indigas. meeting of the minds up in here

 

[TheCleanGame]

Light leaks? Really?

That's so dumb I can't even begin.

Landraces have for thousands of years been fine with light leaks....you see there's things called STARS, Comets, etc.....oh, and this big round thing called the moon that allows you to SEE IN THE DARK for nights on end.......

But yeah, blame your shit genetics on light leaks. LOL

Online forums are so full of garbage

Speaking of garbage...

Yes... light leaks. Usually the more worked strains these days are the most sensitive. You running landrace? LOL I certainly am not. I seriously doubt there are many landraces that'll take a light leak without hermie action going on...

HUGE Difference between a tiny pinhole leak shining on a small part of a plant that's been growing in complete darkness and weak "all over" light from the moon in regular patterns. *facepalm*

There are EXTREMELY few female cannabis plants that will NOT hermie when light stressed. You find one? BREED with it. LOL

Seriously... don't go capping on folks with such a limited experience pool to base your opinion on.

Keep it Clean!

 

[macdiesel]

Speaking of garbage...

Yes... light leaks. Usually the more worked strains these days are the most sensitive. You running landrace? LOL I certainly am not. I seriously doubt there are many landraces that'll take a light leak without hermie action going on...

HUGE Difference between a tiny pinhole leak shining on a small part of a plant that's been growing in complete darkness and weak "all over" light from the moon in regular patterns. *facepalm*

There are EXTREMELY few female cannabis plants that will NOT hermie when light stressed. You find one? BREED with it. LOL

Seriously... don't go capping on folks with such a limited experience pool to base your opinion on.

Keep it Clean!

Limited experience pool?? Lol, you don't know who the fuck i am or my experience with growing.

Youre comparing the weak light of a pinhole to the moon and saying it's stronger? Hahahahaha.

 

[bill cooper]

But the source of your light leak could be 2 feet away where as the moon is 384400km away