Flowering.... trimming fan leaves off....leaving fan leaves on

[willyweed]

coming from england uk i have smoked my fair share of hash,about 20 years worth all told !
ppp is ok nothing more nothing less,yes it may be good for hash as it tastes a bit like the old hash i used to smoke years ago .but as weed it is ordinary .imo

 

[DrFever]

coming from england uk i have smoked my fair share of hash,about 20 years worth all told !
ppp is ok nothing more nothing less,yes it may be good for hash as it tastes a bit like the old hash i used to smoke years ago .but as weed it is ordinary .imo

well you come from a very small island lol bottom line ppp is a hybred strain it matures and flowers rather fast you can chop @ day 43 With overall yields 2.5 pounds per 25 Sq feet so yes its rather good for the comercial grower
Indica and Sativa are the two main varieties of the cannabis plant used as medicine. There are many strains that are crosses of those two varieties. Within each of those varieties and crosses there are a huge number of individual strains, each with a different cannabinoid profile and effect."
As Indica strains have more chlorophyll than Sativa they grow and mature faster. Combining different Indicas, different Sativas or a combination thereof creates hybrids. The resulting hybrid strains will grow, mature and smoke in relationship to the Indica/Sativa percentages they end up containing.
The benefits of hybridization is that the breeder can attempt to create a breed that can fit exact needs, depending on the grower or end user. In today's market the hybrids dominate, as most strains has been crossed with each other at one time or another. Hybrid cannabis strains of note: Love Potion, Harmony, PPP, Thunderbud, Super Silver Haze, Timewarp, C99, Sour Diesel, Snowcap, Trainwreck, Apollo, Big Bertha, Skunk.

 

[Crooked8]

Dr id love to see you try and get sour diesel to stay that stout. Im still perplexed by your telling people to "learn how to keep internodal spacing tight" thats simply not possible with some strains. Sours shoot up like an og. Their vertical growth is insane. Three to four weeks of stretching. 3x height from onset within the first three weeks. I respect your opinion, garden and skills but i have a feeling you're used to indicas/stout strains that dont challenge the training skills too much. The yields you're getting are excellent and I'm glad you're getting them, however, if you grew og, without defoliating and doing serious lsr with over a month veg time, you wont see half that yield. If you know of a way to keep nodes tighter without pgrs please do tell!

 

[psyphish]

The type of lighting you use greatly affects stretch and internode spacing. The newer ceramic metal halides do a pretty good job at keeping plants tight. I also like to use seaweed extract and AN B-52 during early flowering, seems to decrease stretch, but I guess that would be PGRs.

 

[AlterEgo860]

theres a ton of shit u can do to keep shit tight.. a friend uses T5s his veg room is 12x6x6and has 10 feet of 4 foot T5 HO bulbs .. ive never seen anything like this dudes plants.. i gave him a sativa that wouldnt do shit for me because of stretch.. and hes got it running like donkey dicks.. made me rethink my veg room.. saving some money to turn my veg room into a T5 veg room.. and take my 1000w MH and add it to my flower room.

 

[Crooked8]

I veg under t5s, keep em close as shit. Doesn't matter for og, and many others. Anyone with og experience wanna chime in here? Theres not much you can do to tighten up the internodal space besides keeping your lights close as possible. Or using pgrs= poison. If you guys havent grown an og or something like it that triples in height within the first 3 weeks of onset, you dont have experience with the same thing.

 

[psyphish]

I veg under t5s, keep em close as shit. Doesn't matter for og, and many others. Anyone with og experience wanna chime in here? Theres not much you can do to tighten up the internodal space besides keeping your lights close as possible. Or using pgrs= poison. If you guys havent grown an og or something like it that triples in height within the first 3 weeks of onset, you dont have experience with the same thing.

The only OGs I've grown were Purple OG#18 and OG#18 by Reserva Privada, I doubt they're even close to the real OG Kush though. In scrog they didn't have much stretch. Some strains produce small 6 gram nuggets on a stick and some strains just make a leg sized colas. Maybe try defoliating on one cut, see if that helps with the stretch. I grow a new strain every time so I can't do any similar testing.

 

[Crooked8]

All i can say is, if they didnt stretch like mad the first 3 weeks, it wasnt og.

 

[stillnew]

try silica blast I started using it as a ph up cause it had other nutrients it for the plant it made the stems harder and they didn't stretch as much

 

[Crooked8]

Already run silica, full dose from onset weeks 1-7

 

[Buggy]

Hmmm... How well would defo work for a small number of plants total with smaller spaces? IOW, 2'x4'ish space.

Would trying a side-by-side comparison with 4 plants defo'd and 4 not make any difference? All would be topped just the same. Thoughts? I'd like to find out. Heck, this time I trimmed off the fans from one plant that was growing just the same as the one next to it. But, I took them all off at the same time without thinking about the stress on the plant. meh. No difference from what I can SEE between the two plants growing right now and it's been a few weeks since I did so. There are also 7 other plants in the room growing...

We'll see how they turn out at harvest. I do garden a LOT, so I know how different training techniques can work different ways with different plants. It helps me understand how training cannabis can also help improve yields - of course, it is dependant on the technique used, the timing, and the plant's genetics (weak genetics can turn out poorly with stressors - same as any plant).

I'd LIKE to see two separate small tent grows with clones grown to similar sizes and trained exactly alike other than DEFO, plus everything else alike. But, that would take someone having two identical tents that want to do so. Yay science minds. *sigh*

 

[willyweed]

well you come from a very small island lol bottom line ppp is a hybred strain it matures and flowers rather fast you can chop @ day 43 With overall yields 2.5 pounds per 25 Sq feet so yes its rather good for the comercial grower
Indica and Sativa are the two main varieties of the cannabis plant used as medicine. There are many strains that are crosses of those two varieties. Within each of those varieties and crosses there are a huge number of individual strains, each with a different cannabinoid profile and effect."
As Indica strains have more chlorophyll than Sativa they grow and mature faster. Combining different Indicas, different Sativas or a combination thereof creates hybrids. The resulting hybrid strains will grow, mature and smoke in relationship to the Indica/Sativa percentages they end up containing.
The benefits of hybridization is that the breeder can attempt to create a breed that can fit exact needs, depending on the grower or end user. In today's market the hybrids dominate, as most strains has been crossed with each other at one time or another. Hybrid cannabis strains of note: Love Potion, Harmony, PPP, Thunderbud, Super Silver Haze, Timewarp, C99, Sour Diesel, Snowcap, Trainwreck, Apollo, Big Bertha, Skunk.

firstly size is not everything!ask your partner if you doubt this.
for a very small island we still have double the population of canada give or take. then i typed some of your words into a into a yahoo search,and found you were quoting from the "maine grass roots page/website"
which is fine i guess,if you are not passing it off as your own thoughts ? are you still growing ?as the photo's you have been showing lately seem to be from that old grow you did a while back? ,which seed bank were those ppp seeds from? as i may get some and try a few out?
and one last question if you do not mind? what is the difference between super silver haze and silver haze ? many thanks ww

 

[vapedg13]

6000 a pound . $6000 for 454 grams ?(i rounded the grams up for working out )
$13.2 a gram . if ya gonna catch a big fish you may as well make it a whopper .
whats the exchange rate$ between us and canada at the mo dr fever ,it may explain a lot

shit.... I just went to the seattle mmj farmers market...$ 1600-2000 pounds all day long

 

[Bobbo4200]

Haha thats awesome!!

 

[EclipseFour20]

Hmmm...wonder how long before $1000 will be the norm for Washington/Colorado outdoor MMJ?

BTW, I forgot to finish defoliating a few plants (did not see them) while in veg so I kinda "caught them up" when I moved them to flower. We are now 4 weeks in flower and the difference is obvious.

The main branches where fan leaves were removed from the main stalk (one method of defoliating I employ) all have 6-9 bud sites (some have about a dozen...I like!)--but the branches where the fan was removed late (as they went to flower--the ones I forgot to do in veg) at the most have 5-7 bud sites.

Since they were topped about the same time, fed the same ferts/nutes, all were relatively the same size when they were transplanted to 5 gallon containers, zero pest issues---so, hmmm the only difference was the "timing of defoliation". The absolute proof will be the harvest yield...or in my case, how much lessor the yield will be on the plants that I defoliated late.

IMHO, defoliation has ZERO impact on things like: potency, smoothness, taste, aromas, flavors, bud density, etc. The practice is really great for healthy plants...but probably not a great idea for weak, unhealthy, stressed out, fussy pussy styled plants; healthy plants respond well to "tuff luv" and can bless you with a bonus of sorts....whereas weaker ones will just get stressed out and produce less (no bonu$).

Cheers!

 

[willyweed]

nice post vapedg13

 

[x.scarecrow.x]

shit.... I just went to the seattle mmj farmers market...$ 1600-2000 pounds all day long


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wow, awesome
but can't believe

its there a legal (official) market in town, where you can buy
a couple of marij.

im from europe, and i know about the legalisation-trend in us

but that i dont know
tell me please!

 

[vapedg13]

wow, awesome
but can't believe

its there a legal (official) market in town, where you can buy
a couple of marij.

im from europe, and i know about the legalisation-trend in us

but that i dont know
tell me please!

You have to have your current marijuana patient id card or be a MMJ provider that comes with your patient (designated driver) to get into these markets

 

[northerngrafta]

I am just experimenting with this at minute I did it years ago but not with the control I have over environments now......I have to say the stripped looks to have same amount of bud on or more if anything it makes harvest easier

 

[Crooked8]

They outta make a poll out of this