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Terpenation at Terpene Station
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icdog
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I'm trying to find a filter drier, looked for the parker 303 or ek032/084. I don't really have a clue what it is so its not easy to source in Canada, no surprise!
Is there anything specific I need to know to find one, those brands might not be available here so does it need to do something certain to work?
Is there anything specific I need to know to find one, those brands might not be available here so does it need to do something certain to work?
Thanks, I ended up not going with flexicraft because there isn't 1/4" stainless braided on their customizer.
Lebniis - I just ordered this http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-LONG-STA...SAE-FLARE-END-HOSE-3000-PSI-NOS-/360561373220 will let u know if this was the right thing to get. 2 more available. I hope 10' isn't overkill....
This was the other one I was looking at but wasn't sure if "female hydraulic" was the same thing as a female JIC swivel. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-STAINLE...185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c34cb3df1
Do you know what material the hose is lined with?
Not 100% sure yet, but when I look up the part number it is a charging hose made by a company specializing in cryopump systems. The NSN is 4130010082257.
The refrigeration pump I have is a Amprobe promax Rg5000. The phone number and address is from the east coast. There's an online owners manual and it seems to be rated for everything the Appion is. Maybe there's a spec I'm spacing about. Read something about cleaning an Appion with butane and charcoal i think that sparked my curiosity. Thanks
I think what u might be referring to is maintainence on the recovery pump if you suspect BHO got in, u can do this by running liquid butane through the pump and letting it shoot into the air.
Regarding using charcoal, it is a process to filter out undesirable stuff from canned butane by loading activated carbon into the system and running the liquid butane through it.
Just did my first dry ice run today with no heat on the collection chamber today, got the lightest shatter ever! I tried Mr. Durden's technique of leaving about an inch of butane and pouring it off... very convenient but I definitely need more practice to get it down.
I am completely sold on dry ice now. For the first time I was able to totally burp the tank. I waited till the top of the tank was reading -4 and left the vapor port open until no more gas came out. It was a loooooooooong wait. I guess this whole time I have been running the system with a lot of other gases besides butane! I remember GW correctly recommending burping out gases in the storage tank as the solution to another user's long recovery times, so I was expecting faster recovery times as well. On the contrary everything went slower. The initial flood took over 30 seconds! I was not sure what was going on but I saw ice creeping up the column so I knew the sub-zero butane was slowly but surely making its way up.
Now I am of the opinion that that the CPS Pro-Set MT69 is mandatory with dry ice. I noticed that the top of the butane storage tank became warmer through the course of one run (from -4F up to 30F), even though I have it loaded in a cooler with 25 lb of dry ice. Also the liquid butane coming from the storage tank got warmer and warmer as I progressed further into the run. I suspect the submersible cooler will help in keeping the butane in the storage tank much cooler. Are you guys experiencing the same thing with dry ice?
I am completely sold on dry ice now. For the first time I was able to totally burp the tank. I waited till the top of the tank was reading -4 and left the vapor port open until no more gas came out. It was a loooooooooong wait. I guess this whole time I have been running the system with a lot of other gases besides butane! I remember GW correctly recommending burping out gases in the storage tank as the solution to another user's long recovery times, so I was expecting faster recovery times as well. On the contrary everything went slower. The initial flood took over 30 seconds! I was not sure what was going on but I saw ice creeping up the column so I knew the sub-zero butane was slowly but surely making its way up.
Now I am of the opinion that that the CPS Pro-Set MT69 is mandatory with dry ice. I noticed that the top of the butane storage tank became warmer through the course of one run (from -4F up to 30F), even though I have it loaded in a cooler with 25 lb of dry ice. Also the liquid butane coming from the storage tank got warmer and warmer as I progressed further into the run. I suspect the submersible cooler will help in keeping the butane in the storage tank much cooler. Are you guys experiencing the same thing with dry ice?
What are the temps like with this setup? (temps of butane entering the system, and temps of the antifreeze bath?) I am not too keen on constantly refilling on dry ice as it is $1.25/lb here and I suspect my cooler may not have stellar insulation.
At -4F, you still have propane pressure, which helps speed up the floods. I just burp off the air, and leave the propane.
mr. durden
Member
Glad you are liking the cold method
you can do it with just ice too. When using dry ice, don't run more than two tubes. It gets so cold you'll get clumping of paraffin wax and recovery times are slow :-\ just in case, keep a fine mesh strainer handy. Scrape up all the wax stuck at the bottom and sides and use it to make an absolute. There will be some oil content in it
I wouldn't even bother burping your tank, especially with ďry ice, as you lose all your pressure which results in long runs till it is built back up. Or just burp for twenty seconds or less
Just add more butane to build it back up if need be.
Not sure the mt69 is mandatory, but it is nice
just run it with ice though. I freeze tupperware with water in it for that, as ice is cheap, and no need to waste dry ice on cooling that warm butane. With the mt69 , the hose leaving it is very cold versus the one leaving the appion Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk now Free
mr. durden
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I went with 1/4" male npt and then added yellow jacket 19129. sure you'll have to replace the gasket once in awhile, but i'm just not sure if that metal to metal connection is designed for being taken on and off on a daily basis. of course i need to look into this still
mr. durden
Member
try setting up an account with your local dry ice outfit. It cut my cost in half. they don't ask what it is for and you don't need a business license or anything, although i do. not that they asked to see it. just fill out the credit form but tell them you just want to do COD
mr. durden
Member
i think it is hard to determine where the air ends and the propane or butane starts.... at least it was for me. :/
hey GW, do you have any pics posted of your Ia with the 3x36 tube being used? i'm curious how it is stacked as I'd like to build one.
is it 1" ball valve, 1x3 concentric reducer/ filler tube, 3x36" tube, concentric reducer 3x1.5", sight glass, end cap to 1/4" female npt?
Why scrape when you can wash in EtOH?
mr. durden
Member
mr. durden
Member
Just go big on the filter. They are called filter dryers. Just use eBay. I have a sight glass ahead of mine so my filter has 1/4 males on both ends
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Yes very difficult. I kept wondering when I was supposed to smell something sweet. I guess I just don't find propane sweet because soon it was all gone!
mr. durden
Member
yeah, always smelled like butane to me. i just weighed it while doing so to make sure i wasn't losing an insane amount of butane. in the end i stopped burping. not necessary with dry ice.
