A Complete Guide to Topping, Training and Pruning
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raylester420
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excellent quide to topping, however will all of the techniques work on outdoor grow?
WillyNilly
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Just reread this thread. I had forgotten how much great info it contains. Many thanks to the author !!
CrystalNug
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12 /12 fim
12 /12 fim
awesome man! I signed up to say thank you and for a quick question. Can you top, fim the nite before you switch to flower? I know you cant top when in flower and was curious once I flip the 12 /12 if i'll lose what I have tried to gain, or maybe wait a week? Once again awesome job appreciate the time and effort
12 /12 fim
awesome man! I signed up to say thank you and for a quick question. Can you top, fim the nite before you switch to flower? I know you cant top when in flower and was curious once I flip the 12 /12 if i'll lose what I have tried to gain, or maybe wait a week? Once again awesome job appreciate the time and effort
GolfProGrower
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Plants shiuld have 7-10 days after topping before switching to flower...2 weeks better. The hormones will be messed up, healing the topped branches vs flowering
CrystalNug
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well dam that just threw me off 2 weeks huh lol thanks for the quick reply
BOESELAGER
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Once again this site is packed full of knowledge, learning something new everyday!
Born-on-420
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Kodiak,
Nice post, I learned some things my guru’s haven’t told me, I will be referring back here for my next project, keep up the high quality work!
born-on-420
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Kodiak,
Nice post, I learned some things my guru’s haven’t told me, I will be referring back here for my next project, keep up the high quality work!
born-on-420
BOESELAGER
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Yeah this whole description is full of great info thanks man.
Hi guys
I just dropped in to say hello.
Keep up the good work and try to help each other out on this thread by answering questions and providing information.
Nothing is set in stone when it comes to plants. Keep an open mind and try to think of them as pets. They are living things and ultimately want to survive, no matter what.
That is, at least, what they should be doing but not all plants are equally good at it. I've seen plants do some pretty strange things. Some things are genetic dead ends but other things seem almost like poor choices, although the two might actually be the same.
Remember that the two most desireable traits in plants are; the strength/will to survive and the ability to adapt in order to do so.
The best plants can take a hit from a flame thrower and keep going. Naturally resin production and potency are also very important but that can be worked on through selective breeding after the most resistant plants have been found (or you can do it the other way around and look for the most potent, resin packed plant and then add resistance). That's step 1; looking for the right kind of plants. That is why people pass around good clones.
Most strains will yield some crappy plants and some strong plants. They will not all be uniform, have the exact same traits, nor will they be equally strong. It's just the way genetics works. Survival through diversity. Each strain is represented by a wide array of sligthly different individuals, that have some traits in common. Even among true breeding plants, you'll find some diversity. You make it harder for them to do that by basically inbreeding them for certain traits but nature cannot be boxed in. As a matter of fact, the harder you try, the less likely you are to succeed. Nature never stops experimenting through adaptation and genetic recombination and there is a certain degree of unpredictability present. Plants also evolve themselves, in accordance to the environement where they are grown. This is most visible in outdoor grows, where you work on many generations of plants.
I used to grow populations of 50-100 plants indoors in order to find just 1 male and 1 female plant. These are still very limited numbers of plants. Properly done, you would grow say 1000 plants in order to find 5-10 good males and the same amount of females. More is always better. The plants that you find from these grows will adapt to whatever you throw at them and you can train these plant pretty much in any way conceivable. I test them outdoors and although all of them did good indoors, they are faced with more obstacles in the wild. The plants that make the "second cut" outdoors are getting into the best 5-10%.
The plants that can't take something that you throw at them, are not very good at adapting and surviving, so perhaps they weren't keepers in the first place. Not all plants are keepers, far from it. Stress-testing is key to finding the ultimate plants.
I've trained plants to grow into huge christmas tree shaped bushes but also into creeper vines that require no height at all. I picked a really small grow room (30cm/12inches in height) for experimenting and kept the plants in check, using the techniques described in this thread. They basically hugged the soil and created a carpet of bud. That worked out well and they produced only slightly less than usual.
The bottom line is that you can shape the plant into anything that you want, as long as the plant is strong enough to take it. Any shape that you can think of is possible to achieve through training and nothing is impossible. By slowly adjusting the shape of the plant, you can help it form the most effective shape. It requires time, patience and attention but the end results will speak for themselves.
If you wonder if something is possible; try it and see for yourself. Even if most people say that it cannot be done, it might still work because they weren't growing the individual plants that you have in your grow room. Every seed contains a unique plant that differs from the next.
Good luck and have fun!
K
I just dropped in to say hello.
Keep up the good work and try to help each other out on this thread by answering questions and providing information.
Nothing is set in stone when it comes to plants. Keep an open mind and try to think of them as pets. They are living things and ultimately want to survive, no matter what.
That is, at least, what they should be doing but not all plants are equally good at it. I've seen plants do some pretty strange things. Some things are genetic dead ends but other things seem almost like poor choices, although the two might actually be the same.
Remember that the two most desireable traits in plants are; the strength/will to survive and the ability to adapt in order to do so.
The best plants can take a hit from a flame thrower and keep going. Naturally resin production and potency are also very important but that can be worked on through selective breeding after the most resistant plants have been found (or you can do it the other way around and look for the most potent, resin packed plant and then add resistance). That's step 1; looking for the right kind of plants. That is why people pass around good clones.
Most strains will yield some crappy plants and some strong plants. They will not all be uniform, have the exact same traits, nor will they be equally strong. It's just the way genetics works. Survival through diversity. Each strain is represented by a wide array of sligthly different individuals, that have some traits in common. Even among true breeding plants, you'll find some diversity. You make it harder for them to do that by basically inbreeding them for certain traits but nature cannot be boxed in. As a matter of fact, the harder you try, the less likely you are to succeed. Nature never stops experimenting through adaptation and genetic recombination and there is a certain degree of unpredictability present. Plants also evolve themselves, in accordance to the environement where they are grown. This is most visible in outdoor grows, where you work on many generations of plants.
I used to grow populations of 50-100 plants indoors in order to find just 1 male and 1 female plant. These are still very limited numbers of plants. Properly done, you would grow say 1000 plants in order to find 5-10 good males and the same amount of females. More is always better. The plants that you find from these grows will adapt to whatever you throw at them and you can train these plant pretty much in any way conceivable. I test them outdoors and although all of them did good indoors, they are faced with more obstacles in the wild. The plants that make the "second cut" outdoors are getting into the best 5-10%.
The plants that can't take something that you throw at them, are not very good at adapting and surviving, so perhaps they weren't keepers in the first place. Not all plants are keepers, far from it. Stress-testing is key to finding the ultimate plants.
I've trained plants to grow into huge christmas tree shaped bushes but also into creeper vines that require no height at all. I picked a really small grow room (30cm/12inches in height) for experimenting and kept the plants in check, using the techniques described in this thread. They basically hugged the soil and created a carpet of bud. That worked out well and they produced only slightly less than usual.
The bottom line is that you can shape the plant into anything that you want, as long as the plant is strong enough to take it. Any shape that you can think of is possible to achieve through training and nothing is impossible. By slowly adjusting the shape of the plant, you can help it form the most effective shape. It requires time, patience and attention but the end results will speak for themselves.
If you wonder if something is possible; try it and see for yourself. Even if most people say that it cannot be done, it might still work because they weren't growing the individual plants that you have in your grow room. Every seed contains a unique plant that differs from the next.
Good luck and have fun!
K
xfredo1990x
Member
this is all great info!!
i actually apply all of these techniques together! its fuken amazing!
i actually apply all of these techniques together! its fuken amazing!
ColoritGreen
Member
you don't need luck - just follow a basic guide 
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