Do you guys not see the pedigree I posted goes as far back as can be done ( tops are males, bottoms are females) 
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Gorilla Glue #4...
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Yes its right here
This next harvest should be very nice. There both in the flower room but im still veggin with 1k.
Cappy-technically the chart could go further back on the sour dubb and sour diesel. I just learned from someone much wiser than myself, Sour dubb = Sour bubble x NYCD f2 (same male used in Rez's SD ibl)
and then the sour bubble could go back, and same with the nycd. (i think only once each though, after that they get murky)
and sour d is.... mss, chem91, and maybe dnl?. I forget exactly, but i thought that one was known as well.
Now if there really is the sour d, in choc d, i dont know. Ive never heard of chocolate diesel before.
and then the sour bubble could go back, and same with the nycd. (i think only once each though, after that they get murky)
and sour d is.... mss, chem91, and maybe dnl?. I forget exactly, but i thought that one was known as well.
Now if there really is the sour d, in choc d, i dont know. Ive never heard of chocolate diesel before.
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DJXXPLATINUM
GOT SNIPS OF THE GG#4, AND ALL BUT ONE HAS ROOTED...THANKS GANJA GODS....I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN MALE X FEMALE...THINK ITS REALLY THE STANDARD IN THE INDUSTRY...CORRECT ME IF INCORRECT...DJ
i think the sour dubb is a backcross to the bubblegum so more of a sour diesel x bubblegum then backcrossed to bubblegum again...or maybe it was bogbubble or bogglegum used....its going to be interesting to see how it crosses....i just popped some strawberry diesel and some sssdh...if i get a nice male from either those could be super polyhybrid messes!
No, in cannabis it is usually denoted Female x Male. Thats the norm i believe. But even the professionals cant seem to agree.
EXample.
Same strain, Two different books/authors
Big book of buds vol. 4 ED Rosenthal ( FEMALE x MALE)
close up of the above shot^^^^
And this is from Cannabis Indica vol. 2 by S.t.oner/Greencandy press (MALE/FEMALE)
I tend to agree with Ed.
and plus, that s.t.oner guy strikes me as kind of a moron. A lot of his info seems wrong, or not verified in anyway. No idependent smoke reports, just whatevr the breeder notes that were sent with the pics. And his writing style/humor are super lame imho.
Unc, I believe my info on the sour dubb is correçt. It came from a very reliable source/member. But then again, my level of comprehension is hittting an all time low lately. I could have misunderstood him. But he def said the NYCD Male (the same f2 male that rez sorted/selcted from soma's beans) was used in the sour dubb. That part i remember
EXample.
Same strain, Two different books/authors
Big book of buds vol. 4 ED Rosenthal ( FEMALE x MALE)
close up of the above shot^^^^
And this is from Cannabis Indica vol. 2 by S.t.oner/Greencandy press (MALE/FEMALE)
I tend to agree with Ed.
and plus, that s.t.oner guy strikes me as kind of a moron. A lot of his info seems wrong, or not verified in anyway. No idependent smoke reports, just whatevr the breeder notes that were sent with the pics. And his writing style/humor are super lame imho.
Unc, I believe my info on the sour dubb is correçt. It came from a very reliable source/member. But then again, my level of comprehension is hittting an all time low lately. I could have misunderstood him. But he def said the NYCD Male (the same f2 male that rez sorted/selcted from soma's beans) was used in the sour dubb. That part i remember
im pretty sure if you were to ask a botanist they would say male first then female in most cases,its only seems to be pot growers who emphasize the female first which is odd because even most alleged "breeders" will tell you a good male is far more valuable than most females...
but i have come to the conclusion that most pot growers barely know anything about botany or horticulture,and really,amongst professional horticulturist they have to be the worst,least efficient growers out there.its only the high value of the end product that allows us so much latitude on the over priced hydro store stuff most of us use...
but i have come to the conclusion that most pot growers barely know anything about botany or horticulture,and really,amongst professional horticulturist they have to be the worst,least efficient growers out there.its only the high value of the end product that allows us so much latitude on the over priced hydro store stuff most of us use...
This subject is a little confusing because don't most plants that aren't cannabis both female and male at the same time and cannabis is separate males and separate female plants. I've been looking for answers online but it's a little confusing. I'd love to know what is supposed to come first or if it even matters.
According to:
http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/Guide_Plant_Breeding_Technician_IT/Working_with_Maize
For notebooks (horizontal pedigrees), the female is listed first, followed by the male on the same notebook row.
E.g. Female: Lan5, Male: B73,
Cross in book: Lan5 x B73 or Lan5/B73
NOTE: Use of '*' in place of 'x' conflicts with Purdy Notation and should be abandoned
For labels (usually written vertically), the Male is on top, the female is below with a horizontal line between male and female.
According to:
http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/Guide_Plant_Breeding_Technician_IT/Working_with_Maize
For notebooks (horizontal pedigrees), the female is listed first, followed by the male on the same notebook row.
E.g. Female: Lan5, Male: B73,
Cross in book: Lan5 x B73 or Lan5/B73
NOTE: Use of '*' in place of 'x' conflicts with Purdy Notation and should be abandoned
For labels (usually written vertically), the Male is on top, the female is below with a horizontal line between male and female.
So it IS chocolate diesel x (chem Sis x sour dub)......
Sorry chocolate diesel x (sour dub x chem Sis).....botanically correct
Choc diesel was final female, and before that the sour dub was the female to the Sis
that's the facts right there. lezbo's doing there thing, freaky shit
by male i mean "pollen donor" and the female would donate the ovary,but you are correct snype in that many plant have the "male" and "female" parts on the same plant.i think there is even some debate now whether dieceous(sp?) plants are even truly fully male and female or simply hermaphrodites expressing one side or the other depending on conditions...
I know it's tough to see my chicken scratch, but I have the sour dub in there as sour bubble male (all I've heard is inbred bubblegum) x either NyCD or ecsd either having at least 50% one of the original chems.... And the sour diesel written under chocolate diesel could just have easily been written ecsd but where I got the info just said sour diesel, and I have the definitive 50% chem parentage there as well. Being 3 or more gens back I felt it wasn't imperative to nail down what was (dnl, mss,etc) crossed with the chem for the sour diesel.... For me I just wanted to see the "line breeding " of the chem genetics, whether it was freaky freaky accident or not, it is beautiful line breeding with a great outcome!
I make dog pedigrees
Stank bros know what their doing by adding an elite male (that itself is "chem" with an outcross,) should be pretty stable and the outcome should fall to the chem average, ( which is great), with a high percentage chance of superfreaks!
I also think those Gorrilla dogs scoot made with stardawg male pollen should be spot on, with a keeper out of those having great breeding potential bc it's so "tight" on chem genetics
I also think those Gorrilla dogs scoot made with stardawg male pollen should be spot on, with a keeper out of those having great breeding potential bc it's so "tight" on chem genetics
the bottom line is in cannabis the correct way to list it's is female x male. Are you guys questioning that.. We are talking about cannabis no other plant or animal. I think allot get confused because with animals/human we do it male x female. But Botany/horticulture is not the same.. I promise you that its suppose to be female x male always. This is one thing i'm 100% sure of. ... having it split where some write it wrong cusses a lot of confusion. I have had to correct a few on this subject including House of love. They used breeding animals as the same as Botany. I think they have changed it now. If you have many doing it right and many doing it wrong no one will ever know what it really is and then start posting the wrong linage. it needs to be standardized so there is no confusion. That's how I feel about it. if anything ever changes is up to those that are not listing it properly. this is why I always ask what the female was in the cross because I don't know if its listed right. I hope that if your unsure to do some homework you will find the answer. that's all I have to say..
I'm not debating anything, I was just saying I write formyself, and I write in mammal pedigree form. I only show the pedigree (and say its males on top fem on bottom)to help answer others questions, and I even bring it down to the female first way for others who need to see it that way.
Chocolate diesel (f) x (sourdub (f) x chem sis (m) )
I don't think I'll post again without putting the (f) or (m) s in to make sure of clarity
Chocolate diesel (f) x (sourdub (f) x chem sis (m) )
I don't think I'll post again without putting the (f) or (m) s in to make sure of clarity
I'm not debating anything, I was just saying I write formyself, and I write in mammal pedigree form. I only show the pedigree (and say its males on top fem on bottom)to help answer others questions, and I even bring it down to the female first way for others who need to see it that way.
Chocolate diesel (f) x (sourdub (f) x chem sis (m) )
I don't think I'll post again without putting the (f) or (m) s in to make sure of clarity
Or some H's
Lol yeah I guess there's not many true female s in there
Doc hope you caught my apology for the Neg rep, it was meant to be positive!
Doc hope you caught my apology for the Neg rep, it was meant to be positive!
that will work CP. I see others doing that as well.
I loaded up 50 seeds last night. Put 8 into cups this morning ..
I loaded up 50 seeds last night. Put 8 into cups this morning ..
Lol yeah I guess there's not many true female s in there
Doc hope you caught my apology for the Neg rep, it was meant to be positive!
Yeah Bro, no worries.
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DJXXPLATINUM
I GUESS I WAS WRONG...FEMALES FIRST HUH....I HAVE BEEN MARKING ALL MY CROSSES WITH THE MALE NOTATED FIRST...THOUGH THAT WAS RIGHT LOL..SO FEMALE FIRST..DJ
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