Terpenation at Terpene Station

[Lebniis]

Durden, can you do a quick detail of your collection process?

Pour at what hg?
Into what?
Then straight into a vacuum oven?

Thanks

 

[ortsa1]

Would an outside work area be an option in the winter time -30(c) if I heated the lines? or will i need an inside work space that is heated

 

[Gray Wolf]

Would an outside work area be an option in the winter time -30(c) if I heated the lines? or will i need an inside work space that is heated

There is no need to operate in a heated area. We operate under a portable carport, with a picnic table under it, year around.

 

[fuzzy dunlop]

keep doing runs till you are sure there is no oil left, and then run some more. i used activated charcoal and did probably 9 or so runs. this after i cleaned, boiled, and wiped down every party before assembly. there is more oil than you'd imagine.

definitely get a prefilter, and get a bigger one than most use in case oil does get to it. a sight glass before the filter helps too. keep an eye on your reclaim hose as you can get oil in it from the inlet side.

the pot heater sucks. it swings too much temp wise even with a thermostat hooked up to it. the pot needs to be way bigger so that it can more easily handle the temp fluctuations. i just opted not to use the pot heater except for low budget material.

you can do no heat for several columns, it'll just take a longer with each subsequent tube. we are now just doing 2-3 cycles per tube when running cold.

You cleaned a bit more than me, commendable for sure. Sight glasses coming soon, hate having not point of reference other than the gauge, though that really does tell the story once you get the hang of it. Kept the pot heater on the absolute lowest setting, water was def chilly at points, about 60-65, but I got an pretty blonde product without too terrible of a reclaim time. Few more trim runs and then some cold bud runs

 

[fuzzy dunlop]

Also added a buffer between terp and bottom of soup pot

 

[icdog]

Where do you guys put the sight glass? Where would one go before the filter?

 

[FatherEarth]

Durden, yea my sight glass is 1.5" Im positive you cant get it to the temps you are running without breaking it. I think youll need a special one if you are running -70F butane. I suppose you could run a 1" glass long as its seated in the 1.5" housing.

Yes I replaced the gaskets in the glass, Im running buna in them now. . .

 

[FatherEarth]

when I can tap I run the butane through a parker 303 filter drier/ molecular sieve before it ever gets to the terp. The inline 3/8" sight glass goes on right after the filter. When using one on the mkIII I placed the inline sight glass right off the recovery port then attached the recovery hose, then comes the ek032 fliter drier that protects the appion....

 

[FatherEarth]

If you use the wyott to heat the collection pot you have to sit right in front of it. So place your thermometer in the water I suggest getting a digital one with a temp alarm like the one I posted earlier. Set the alarm about 10 degrees cooler than your max allowed temp and place a chair and your ass right in front of the soup pot. When the alarm goes off turn the wyott OFF. The ten degree buffer is needed because the heat will keep going up as it transfers through the metal, youll need at least 10 degrees or youll overshoot your temps. Careful attention is needed if you are shooting to keep steady temps.. Unplugging the wyott if you step away will eliminate any mishaps with forgetting or not turning it all the way down. Ive had a few turn brown goo from such incidents. Not a good time.

 

[FatherEarth]

a yield report:
a close friend has consistently pulled 35-36 grams from 160g trimmed buds

My best so far is from 140g trim/smalls mix pulling 25g.. anyone care to share their yields?


FE

 

[icdog]

FE do you have a pic of the 3/8 sightglass and the filter?

 

[prune]

If you use the wyott to heat the collection pot you have to sit right in front of it. So place your thermometer in the water I suggest getting a digital one with a temp alarm like the one I posted earlier. Set the alarm about 10 degrees cooler than your max allowed temp and place a chair and your ass right in front of the soup pot. When the alarm goes off turn the wyott OFF. The ten degree buffer is needed because the heat will keep going up as it transfers through the metal, youll need at least 10 degrees or youll overshoot your temps. Careful attention is needed if you are shooting to keep steady temps.. Unplugging the wyott if you step away will eliminate any mishaps with forgetting or not turning it all the way down. Ive had a few turn brown goo from such incidents. Not a good time.

Has anyone added one of these:

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/452086/

high speed water pump and temp control accurate to a tenth of a degree?

 

[FatherEarth]

The wyott doesnt really have many issues with heating unevenly. It heats from all sides I believe.. Its mostly to do with the nature of the water bath and the thickness of the MKIII SS. Plus after turning off the wyott it still transfers a good amount of heat for a while raising the temps above the target if not set with a buffer. Also once youve heated the bottom ss plate to temp, it is thick enough to hold temps for a while even if you remove it from heat all together. If you stop the water bath early you can prevent overheating before it transfers through the vessel.
I would really like to have a thermometer in a thermowell inside sitting the collection pot, in the oil about a 1/8-1/4" off the bottom plate to see what the actual temps of the oil are....

 

[PenZenMaster]

My Yields

My Yields

a yield report:
a close friend has consistently pulled 35-36 grams from 160g trimmed buds

My best so far is from 140g trim/smalls mix pulling 25g.. anyone care to share their yields?


FE

I'm cleaning out the barn right now so we are running old bud and trim.
I pack mine to around 180 - 190 g per tube ( 1.5 x 24 ) and get between 16 and 19 g before it's winterized. Lot of wax in what I'm running so final yield is around 6 % of dry weight.

 

[mr. durden]

The wyott only has bottom heat. Had to take mine apart due to some loose parts.

 

[FatherEarth]

Indeed it is bottom heated, I stand corrected.

Loose parts you say? Me too! Well lets have a look and see whats under the wyott's hood...

My temp dial was super loose goosey. The weight of the terp times heavy use it starts to wobble a bunch. .

Here is the bottom off and a look at the loose bolts.

So I wanted to test the wyott a bit and see whats really going on. I added my thermometer (oven safe) between the bottom of the wyott and the heating element enclosure.

Here are my notes from the investigation..

Placed in the middle of the #1 setting

@ 4 mins with 1" of water starting temp 68F
My added thermometer 200F
bottom of wyott in h20: 98-101F

The thermostat shut off @ 200F leaving the above h20 temps to rise to 111F @ the 8 min mark. The thermostat did not kick back on until the added thermometer was @ 131F @ the 10 min mark the H20 was hovering around 105 at this point. Once the thermostat kicked on it ran for 1 min hitting 161F with the h20 maxing out at 115F, this is as far as I got... My early conclusion is to replace or possibly adjust the wyotts thermostat to have a narrower dead band.Possibly add that heated water pump. Adding the Dorkfood plug in I dont think would work well because the band is so wide the wyott still wouldnt kick on unless you bypass the internal thermostat. By that time you would have been better off spending your money on a better heating solution...
....

FE

 

[FatherEarth]

ICdog,
inline sight glass coming off the recovery port:

 

[FatherEarth]

And for evaporating ethanol in open air ...Dust free.

2$

5$

The suit is particularly nice because the arms and legs cut off make nice covers with elastic ends. The zippered body for the really large evap dishes..

 

[mr. durden]

yeah, mine rattled when i first got it and i got annoyed enough hearing it to finally pull it apart. one nut had fallen off and others were loose. nice quality control :/

might as well get the combo sight glass/moisture indicator

 

[mr. durden]

this week my parts should all arrive for my second unit... just in time for outdoor! i think i'll freeze the sight glass before installing for cold runs, but i'm not too worried as it is made of borosilicate glass