Help!!!!

[GreenPrincess]

This is my BubbleGum in week 5 of flower....

Found this tonight....

What the *%#@ is it and how do I stop it????

Thanks in advance!
GP

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

It's powdery mildew.
lower your humidity.
It also looks like you have or had spider mites
spray this stuff to kill both, but follow directions carefully. test on a small bud first.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=18473
also get more direct light on your buds. it prevents p.m.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

also clean all surfaces with bleach. you have to kill the spores.

 

[GreenPrincess]

It's powdery mildew.
lower your humidity.
It also looks like you have or had spider mites
spray this stuff to kill both, but follow directions carefully. test on a small bud first.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=18473
also get more direct light on your buds. it prevents p.m.

Ok. Thanks. I am heading to the store. I did have spider mites, saw them on the soil-early on in veg. They might still be lurking about!

I tell you I almost yanked her out of there-but I don't want to chop her this early. So I am going to follow these instructions to the 'T'.

Couple questions...

How to test a small bud? I will have the solution ready? Do you mean, go through all the motions? Spritz, wait 20 minutes, rinse and shake?

And then if nothing catastrophic happens do all of them?

AND

I have 4 plants at 5 weeks of flower, but I also have 4 females in there under separate lighting that are in week 2 of flower as well as 5 males in a tent, also week 2 of flower. Should I make two batches and do every one??

Or only the 5 weekers, or only the infected plant???

I am guessing everyone, but please confirm??

Thanks so much, you are the only one who has responded.

Last but not least, should I wait until sun up, which is midnight tonight, or interrupt their dark and get this done asap?

Thanks,
GP

 

[Bigge]

If I see your picture correctly....there are webs on the bud....you have been invaded by the Borg...aka spider mites (check under leaves for teeny black/grey/white specs that move to confirm). If it is spider mites.....then at this stage....Floramite/avid/forbid....try other stuff if you want (drop temps/cold water spray/neem oil/wash down/co2 drown/sulphur/predatory mites/ladybugs/hot strips/bombs/other homemade remedies as suggested by the previous poster) but now that you have webs you have to move quick or they will take over all buds...Floramite would be my first weapon. These are strong chemicals....use as directed...I don't use them in flower but know people that use them in first 1/2 of flower. With mites prevention treatment is critical! Half measures at this point will lose the entire crop. Make sure to repeat treatment every two days and treat all plants in the room...the Borg will not go easily. Spray plants at lights on and make sure to get under the leaves....but leave Lights off until they are dry (will be like a cloudy shorter day to the plants).

No new clones hit my room without two weeks of dips/spray in quarantine.

And if the white on the leaves is not frost from crystals then you also have powdery mildew....use Eagle20 to solve that....mites are the priority.

Good Luck!

 

[GreenPrincess]

If I see your picture correctly....there are webs on the bud....you have been invaded by the Borg...aka spider mites (check under leaves for teeny black/grey/white specs that move to confirm). If it is spider mites.....then at this stage....Floramite/avid/forbid....try other stuff if you want (drop temps/cold water spray/neem oil/wash down/co2 drown/sulphur/predatory mites/ladybugs/hot strips/bombs/other homemade remedies as suggested by the previous poster) but now that you have webs you have to move quick or they will take over all buds...Floramite would be my first weapon. These are strong chemicals....use as directed...I don't use them in flower but know people that use them in first 1/2 of flower. With mites prevention treatment is critical! Half measures at this point will lose the entire crop. Make sure to repeat treatment every two days and treat all plants in the room...the Borg will not go easily. Spray plants at lights on and make sure to get under the leaves....but leave Lights off until they are dry (will be like a cloudy shorter day to the plants).

No new clones hit my room without two weeks of dips/spray in quarantine.

And if the white on the leaves is not frost from crystals then you also have powdery mildew....use Eagle20 to solve that....mites are the priority.

Good Luck!

Thanks, Bigge. These were grown from seed but they are in an outdoor shed. I have had the Hot Shot strips up and hadn't seen any signs of them returning until now.

I'm going to mix up the solution described above and get it on them asap...

GP

 

[Boo]

what you see is NOT powdery mildew but botrytis...bud rot...cut it out and destroy all things that touched it...oxydate may help but it's caused by poor ventilation, excess humidity, and too big a bud...there are no webs, what you see is part of the mold structure...go ahead, google it and see if I'm not hitting the nail on the head...

 

[Boo]

mebbe this will assist you in what you perceive you have...

 

[Boo]

2 more...

 

[Granger2]

Green Princess,
Check the Spider Mite aka borg sticky in Cannabis Infirmary section. I pasted one of my posts from it below. I chose not to smoke Floramite and other poisons, so I use this method. Good luck. -granger

The last time [don't I wish], or most recent time I had Spider Mites, I used Spinosad followed by Azasol. It's very important to use a wetting agent with Spinosad. I like Coco Wet.

As far as safety goes, both are OMRI approved and OMRI sez they can be applied within 3 days of harvest. Not something I would do, but points to low toxicity.

I have never used it on buds, and can't see myself ever doing that, except maybe up thru 2nd week of 12/12. With Spinosad at maximum dilution rate [2 oz/gal], I've never seen any phytotoxic effects of any kind with dunking foliage or drenching roots and medium to full saturation [for Root mofo Aphids].

Works well. I mix up 4 gal in a 5 gal bucket, put a towel over the medium to avoid spilling it, turn plant and container upside down, and dunk in bucket. Gives 100% coverage.

Three dunkings 36 hours apart takes Spider Mites out. Then I mix fresh Azasol for the 4th treatment in 2-3 days. By doing it every 36 hours, you take out the new hatchlings before they lay eggs, or very many eggs. Dunking the foliage washes off many of the mites and eggs.

If the plants and containers are small, its easy to do, and takes little time, and makes a mess on the floor [important to spray the floor, walls, doors anyway], but I don't have spray all over the reflective surfaces and glass.

I have been watering with 1 tsp of Azasol monthly. Someone posted that it works to prevent mite infestation. Azadiractin, the active ingredient in Neem which is extracted to make Azamax and Azatrol, gives some systemic action for approx a couple of weeks. The smell seems to keep mites away. Using a very light dose like this has no apparent effect on aromatic qualities of the finished product that humans notice. I don't use it after 4 weeks of 12/12.

And yes, it's disturbing what some growers use on what they are selling, especially for medicine. Bayer Tree and Shrub claims to be effective on insects for 12 months. It's a systemic so people are smoking and eating it.

Azadiractin has a short lived systemic effect, but Neem has been used in Ayurvetic medicine for hundreds of years. Good luck. -granger

 

[Boo]

there are NO mites...the webbing is from the mold...you guys are speading misinformation...I'm not tryin to be a dick, I just know what I see from experience...I'm not tossing guesses around

 

[mr bub]

It doesn't look like bud rot, it looks like fuzzy webbing aka the borg
You saw stuff on the soil, but you would see spider mites on and under the leaves

I wouldn't want to smoke anything that insecticidal chemicals were used on while in flower.
good luck

 

[mr bub]

also check out the powdery mildew thread thats goind on right now. Its got a good picture of a plant with mildew

 

[Granger2]

tog,
I don't think you're a dick. I can't tell from the pics what it is. It could be mite webbing, Botritis, or PM.

I gave the remedy that works for me it she has mites. I have no experience with PM or Botritis, since I have a sealed, dehumidified room with lots of air flow. So I didn't offer a fungus remedy.

Hopefully Princess will do a close inspection, and make a determination. -granger

 

[Boo]

were fine granger...guys, pm usually begins on the top side of the leaf and work itw way in...this is bud rot...it webs...do the research...one way to eliminate mites as the issue is it scope the plant...mites begin on the bottoms of the leaves...again, not trying to be a dick, I've just been doing this along time and know what I'm looking at...

 

[Bigge]

Thanks, Bigge. These were grown from seed but they are in an outdoor shed. I have had the Hot Shot strips up and hadn't seen any signs of them returning until now.

I'm going to mix up the solution described above and get it on them asap...

GP

Good luck..as the other posters say...get firm proof of the problem before taking action...treatments are different for bud rot than for spider mites...and treating the wrong problem could make the actual problem worse. Also they are right about chemicals on flowers..there may be residual in the finished product if you use them to late...I have lost to the Borg to many times.....I don't sell my medicine so I nuke the bastards at first sighting during veg...and I nuke them before flower proactively with one of the above three chems.......I have never won the battle after seeing webs with anything other than chems...I hope it's bud rot that you have and not the borg. Best of luck.

 

[GreenPrincess]

Dudes. I am so confused at this point. I very much appreciate all of your insight and I am sure you can understand me when I say my very limited resources are all in this little grow. I haven't bought a bag since February, haven't smoked truly decent shit since June and so I don't want to lose this battle.

I feel like I should just fucking chop them all. But then what smoke weak rotten bud?

Fuck.

Okay, here's what I can say. The first gentleman gave me a recipe for an organic solution that would combat both pm and the borg. What I don't know is whether this same treatment would be ineffective against the more serious grey mold or bud rot.

What I will say is I SAW the mites before. I scope this girls every night. I pick dirt off their leaves. Seriously. I do not see any crawlies. Could I be missing it? Yep. But unless you guys want to come over, I'm going to have to call it.

I have VERY high humidity, and very little ventilation. I thought the plants were doing fine and digging life, but obviously not. I am inclined to think this may indeed be the bud rot. It's just what it looks like to me, the moldy webbing-that's webbing-not webs.

Tog, was it?

He said cut it out. The whole thing??? That's the main cola.

Fuck.

Fuck. Fuck.

Sun up is in less than 10 minutes.

I'm just a little confused now as I feel like I'd like to treat it as if all three possibilities are happening and just make the organic solution, cut out the part that is obviously webbed and fucked, and see what happens from here, but I'm not sure.

I have everything to make the solution ready to go...

GP

 

[ozzieAI]

sorry to hear of your woes GP...but it does look very much like mould. not salvaging what you can by harvesting now can become a game of diminishing returns later on...

i haven't flowered indoors for years, but when i did i was able to control mould by using pure neem oil mixed with silica and seaweed concentrate. basically 3mls neem oil, .2ml silica and 3mls seaweed concentrate/litre of water. i sprayed every week during lights out up to week 6 of flower in a very humid environment as a preventative. the benefit of using neem oil is that it keeps the bugs off your plants as well...

http://www.organicneem.com/neem_water_soluable_uses.php

wish you all the best...good luck

 

[GreenPrincess]

sorry to hear of your woes GP...but it does look very much like mould. not salvaging what you can by harvesting now can become a game of diminishing returns later on...

i haven't flowered indoors for years, but when i did i was able to control mould by using pure neem oil mixed with silica and seaweed concentrate. basically 3mls neem oil, .2ml silica and 3mls seaweed concentrate/litre of water. i sprayed every week during lights out up to week 6 of flower in a very humid environment as a preventative. the benefit of using neem oil is that it keeps the bugs off your plants as well...

http://www.organicneem.com/neem_water_soluable_uses.php

wish you all the best...good luck

Are you saying I should chop her? I have 4 plants side by side, yikes, I know...and on this one bubblegum, only on the main cola is the rot. I passed by the neem oil today and pondered it but ended up buying the stuff to make the solution listed at the top of this thread. I can definitely go back and get some later. I have done nothing so far, other than turn one of the fans off that was blowing across the canopy. I did go out there to check that it wasn't worse or spreading but I am trying to really think about what I'm going to do next before o just do it. Don't want to make a mistake.

So, you use neem oil on the regular as a preventative? You spritz it directly on the plants after lights out then? All through flower or.. ?

And again, are you suggesting I chop her, or all 4?

Thanks...

GP

 

[Boo]

you've got 2 choices...cut out the bad area and salvage the rest or ignore it and all will be lost...smoking bud rot will destroy your lungs...growin ain't as easy as most make it out to be...make the sacrifice now and learn...add ventilation and reduce the humidity...and for Gods sake, don't take all the advice you read...these guys are wanting to help but are giving you bum advice...do your own research because pm begins on leaves and mites don't produce a mass of white/grey fuzz...just spraying the plants with anything damp is gonna create more issues...if you had gangrene on your hand would you not let them cut it off to save the arm and body...mold is mold...