Category 5 Labs

[SneakySneaky]

howdy howdy, so after lots of looking around i figured its time to start my own thread about extractions. Im currently running one of skunk pharms mk3s, and have an mk5 on order as well as a co2 system in the works. i cant thank gray wolf enough, his design is absolutely amazing! I have decided to name the extraction lab and other side projects after the storm that took everything from me and made it possible for me to be here today, Katrina. Without that lil gust of wind i would have never made it out there, so i will pay tribute to the worst day of my life that led me to the best thing ever, being medical and care free about mj.

The labs motto : "Making extracts that will blow you away"

Without further ado, lets get it started.





this was made @ 75˚ water bath to keep from icing up as much.



The Across International 1.9 vac oven is an absolute game changer from pot purging. i had them switch out the torr guage for a hg in guage and it makes life so much simpler trying to get specific pressure (example, 24 hg in = 609.6 torr)

anybody else using one of these ovens? been tinkering with the settings, and have gotten it to heat .1˚F every 2 mins, it may take a while to heat up, but the factory settings overshot the temp by 15˚F without even blinking an eye. anybody with one feel free to drop me a line and compare settings and get these ovens dialed in.

 

[MR_Falcon]

cool set up. you got all manner of sweet toys there. big ups for making chicken salad out of chicken shit. looks like you be making some bomb ass extracts now.

 

[Gray Wolf]

howdy howdy, so after lots of looking around i figured its time to start my own thread about extractions. Im currently running one of skunk pharms mk3s, and have an mk5 on order as well as a co2 system in the works. i cant thank gray wolf enough, his design is absolutely amazing! I have decided to name the extraction lab and other side projects after the storm that took everything from me and made it possible for me to be here today, Katrina. Without that lil gust of wind i would have never made it out there, so i will pay tribute to the worst day of my life that led me to the best thing ever, being medical and care free about mj.

The labs motto : "Making extracts that will blow you away"

Without further ado, lets get it started.

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this was made @ 75˚ water bath to keep from icing up as much.

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The Across International 1.9 vac oven is an absolute game changer from pot purging. i had them switch out the torr guage for a hg in guage and it makes life so much simpler trying to get specific pressure (example, 24 hg in = 609.6 torr)

anybody else using one of these ovens? been tinkering with the settings, and have gotten it to heat .1˚F every 2 mins, it may take a while to heat up, but the factory settings overshot the temp by 15˚F without even blinking an eye. anybody with one feel free to drop me a line and compare settings and get these ovens dialed in.

The one we used started out with wider swings but zeroed in.

The owner had narrowed the swing by adding a 3/4" slab of marble/granite to the shelf, which acts as a heat sink with more inertia than the heaters.

PS: Nice rig!

 

[ConcentrateChaz]

Nice set up man! im jealous for sure. you are def an inspiration keep at it!

 

[SneakySneaky]

gonna have some good pics coming for you guys, and a bad one as well.

while on my 3rd batch first run, the 6" n-buna gasket at the base was a bit expanded but still fit inside the clamp securely and passed the leak test, (EDIT*- upon further inspection, after long periods exposed to cold and pressure the n-buna gaskets tend to warp out of shape, a room temp water bath helps bring them back to size) it bulged/moved/gave way sending a massive "burp" underwater and leaving a film of beautiful blonde hash around the inside of the soup pot. lesson learned trying to get 1 last run out of a gasket.

my emergency procedures i had written down were put into place (didnt look at them, but the fact i wrote them down had them fresh in my mind which was very good), all valves on mk3 sealed, then secondary gas 1/4" hose fittings shut off, tanks closed, and then the appion was turned off.

Went on ebay,(brewerygaskets.com has an ebay store, seller: penske40 ) and found 6" Viton Sanitary gaskets and bought 5, as well as 1.5" viton triclamp gaskets, 2 20 mesh 1.5" viton sanitary gaskets, 2 10 mesh 1.5" viton sanitary gaskets, and 1 1.5" viton diaphragm. i also ordered the leak detector that Father Earth recommended in his thread, great lil gadget thanks for posting that up.

Back to the good news i made 2 kick ass runs of oil before this happened! i guess this "mishap" run will be my guineapig run for winterizing in the new oven, gotta get the moisture outta there somehow and this gives me a good excuse . i will post all the pics at once when the ovens done cooking.

Remember to stay safe out there erll makers, and thanks to everybody for the wealth of knowledge around here

PS: GW, ill bring the roor over for class

 

[SneakySneaky]

ok guys here we go:

heres the bottom spool iced over even after being submerged in 60˚ water, notice the ring of hash and stuff stuck to the clamp from when it "burped"




had to scrape a bit out so i had somewhere to smack it with a hammer because it was stuck together.



Before the oven


In the oven

 

[SneakySneaky]

a small batch of about 14grams bubba/obama/chemd/ roscos revenge aka checkmate trim.

 

[Bag]

looking hashy ! that 1 looks like huge dog poop ! win !

 

[FatherEarth]

Looks like radar took a shit in your oven, LOL. Nice set up. My bottom gasket and plate cover are stuck together every time. I use a flathead screwdriver inserted between the two with a slight twist to open...

 

[FatherEarth]

your motto could have a double meaning. Be careful with what you associate your name with. Especially disaster and blowing you away... Law of attraction is a very real thing. Just my suggestion.

FE

 

[RegisPhilburn1]

Are you running the MKIII inside? Kinda looks that way from the pictures.

Are you going for wax?

Great job dialing in you AI oven.

I have also had one of those "Burp" experiences, it pulled a vacuum fine but then after the first dump it started burping, scared the shit out of me to say the least, another reason to run outdoors

 

[FatherEarth]

the burp

the burp

curious as to why you guys think the burp is happening?
I have never had a burp...Although have had a gasket leak up top... I would think it could only come from not being clamped tight enough. Seems like BHO in the gasket only makes it stronger unless you get something like plant material in it... I tried a filter between the gasket and leaked BHO... plant material from not cleaning and over looking the final clamp down...

 

[RegisPhilburn1]

FE,
My burp came from me being forgetful and grabbing one of my collection bottoms, which was clamped, but not as tight as it should be. It pulled a vacuum just fine, because of the suction force, but as soon as i did the first dump it started burping at the bottom. With my heart racing a million miles an hour i quickly shut all valves, and reached into the water to tighten the bottom clamp. Once tightened i opened the recovery valve, and recovered what was left, though i was worried about introducing water, i felt that the positive pressure from the burp prevented any water from getting into the collection pot. I lost about 1/3 of the extract do to the burp, compared to runs with the same material.

Definitely triple checking all clamps now...

 

[FatherEarth]

wow, I woulda had a heart race on that one too. Especially with a fresh dump in the pot and a hot Wyott.. lol


So loose clamp it is. Check ur list and check it twice

 

[SneakySneaky]

Are you running the MKIII inside? Kinda looks that way from the pictures.

Are you going for wax?

Great job dialing in you AI oven.

I have also had one of those "Burp" experiences, it pulled a vacuum fine but then after the first dump it started burping, scared the shit out of me to say the least, another reason to run outdoors

the mk3 for the time being is run inside. in that specific area i have 2x 8" fans blowing onto it and 2 8" fans extracting, all fans in the room have been grounded with a rubber bungee. a friend of mine is a computer tech so i had him make me a few grounding cables. GW runs his mk2? inside a closet with fans and with my 1400 cfm airflow, the airflow will take care of anything except a catastrophic tank malfunction.

i have figured out what the "burp" is caused from, at least why it did it to me. to replicate the scenario i put the spool and 1 gasket clamped down in the freezer for 10 mins, pulled it out put it back in for another 10 mins, and then it was finally a bit expanded. what i noticed is that it didnt sit well but i got it as best as i could. I tightened the clamp down and left overnight to defrost. this morning i checked it and the clamp needed 2 180˚ turns to be completely tight. My conclusion is that the gasket stretches a bit and when it starts to come back to shape, the clamp is no longer tight on the gasket and when the gasket shifts itself back where it should be it moves and the clamp is no longer 100% secure.

 

[RegisPhilburn1]

the mk3 for the time being is run inside. in that specific area i have 2x 8" fans blowing onto it and 2 8" fans extracting, all fans in the room have been grounded with a rubber bungee. a friend of mine is a computer tech so i had him make me a few grounding cables. GW runs his mk2? inside a closet with fans and with my 1400 cfm airflow, the airflow will take care of anything except a catastrophic tank malfunction.

Yes Gw does run his MkII inside with spark-less exhaust fans, but he also stores the butane tank outside of the room, and the MKII is run by automatic controls. Also that extraction room is separate from other structures. Gw also suggests that this MKIII be run outside only, unless in a serious laboratory setting, which your garage/old grow room is not.

Its your life to gamble with if you want, i just hope if there is anybody else in the house, or close neighbors, that they understand the risks and are ok with it.

shit happens man, best to be completely safe outside

 

[FatherEarth]

Dang, inside? FOr real bro!? I had more faith in you than that... Barely got your terp wet and already had a butane burp... and you are still ok with indoors eh?
You might be blown away by your extracts after all. I have to bow out of this one.
Best of luck to you.



FE

 

[SneakySneaky]

Yes Gw does run his MkII inside with spark-less exhaust fans, but he also stores the butane tank outside of the room, and the MKII is run by automatic controls. Also that extraction room is separate from other structures. Gw also suggests that this MKIII be run outside only, unless in a serious laboratory setting, which your garage/old grow room is not.

Its your life to gamble with if you want, i just hope if there is anybody else in the house, or close neighbors, that they understand the risks and are ok with it.

shit happens man, best to be completely safe outside

ive been to gw's house and seen the machine as well as the automated controller. very impressive setup, cant wait for my automated mk5. the tank being inside is only a temporary thing. im waiting on a particular model dog house to come back in stock. the plastic doghouses' roof comes off very easily allowing me to discretely have the tank stored outside and drill 2 small holes through the garage wall for the lines. if the doghouse doesnt come in stock in the next week when im back from the seattle cup, i will just order this plastic storage shed or find something similar locally (http://www.horse.com/item/storageho...code=GPHORSE&gclid=CPya9OamtbkCFeqDQgodylMAqQ)

many factors have made this an inside endeavor for the current time, the main one being the insane amount of construction going on next door, earth moving equipment being the most annoying. a section of the fence between the 2 properties is down and there is no privacy whatsoever. in a month they will have to stop cause of the pnw rains and i can get an e-z up for the back yard if i havent moved into the new location yet.

as i said lots of precautions went into the setup since im currently running it indoors. total airflow is 2400cfm in and 2400 cfm out, with 2 8" intakes and 2 8" exhausts being directly over where the mk3 is. the next step is to seal off that area completely and upgrade to this fan http://www.summitracing.com/parts/jpi-d1625x-a16 the ultimate goal is that at my new location i will be able to have the units in a pristine labratory setup, till then im piecing it together as quick and safely as possible.

FE, been cranking things out for a while with this unit, defineately not just getting it kicked in. you know how things work, as soon as you get comfortable with something thats when mistakes happen. the vac oven has made a gigantic difference in processing times as well as consistency, next time your around you should stop by and check it out.

 

[SneakySneaky]

picked up some new tools, these scrapers work awesome!!! the 1" titanium stiff one for scraping the spool and the 6" titanium flex for the base. works so much better than the nice cake icing knife and spatula combo.

 

[SneakySneaky]

been a busy last few weeks, in and out of the woods. happy to report that the twin towers of terpenation are going great, brought the troops home to rest while i wait on something special.....and thats not a trashcan to the left, its the base of the mk5!!!