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Day 29 flower - Is Spinosad safe?

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Alone

Just noticed some thrips on my leaves at the bottom of a few plants.
Sprayed most of them with a Safer brand bug spray. I NEVER spray them with anything during flower, but the flowers were just starting to show at the bottoms. VERY TEENY-TINY, like 10 hairs. Thats it.
So I sprayed the bottoms butt not the tops. I wont spray any flowers. Any bottom flowers, nomatter how small got pulled after the spray dried the next day.
Can Spinosad be used in flower or no. Most of the tops are pretty big so I cant spray above the 1/2 way mark with what I have.
 
A

Alone

Heres what stage of flower they are in now ~
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RedBeardy5

Active member
I love spinosad, just don't spray the flowers. Its safe to use on flowers, but I never like spraying my flowers with anything. I have been getting them the second week in flower and apply 3 applications and they never come back. good shit
 

RedBeardy5

Active member
Put that shit in a airless paint sprayer and mist the hell out of the room, works wonders. But you need to apply it a couple times to get the larva
 
O

OrganicOzarks

You can spray the flowers. It won't hurt anything. Just put 2oz. in 1 gallon of water, and foliar spray.
 
K

K.O.Genetics

spinosad works so that if they eat any part of leaf touched by it. they die off.. so ya id spray just leaves.. don't care wat others say.. I sprayed my buds 1 run with Monterey spinosad.. and fuckin burned every pistil.. so now I just make sure to spray spinosad in Veg only.. and use it as preventative to get thrips to stay away for good.
 
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OrganicOzarks

It will depend on the strength. Sorry I assumed you were in the US using standard strength. You should always read the label.
 
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orfeas

No worry, pal!
Sure, density is the matter! Mine is 48% spinosad...
 
Spinosad works to kill adults but they will come back. Trust me when I tell you that if you are in soil or coco you should add diatomaceous earth to the top and also around the water saucer for control of these sap sucking leaches from hell.

Just wear a mask and gloves when you spread it and turn off the fans when you are doing it. You don't want to inhale diatomaceous earth. You can water it in after a few days and reapply the diatomaceous earth again.

The thrips crawl into the soil to pupate, then they breed and crawl back up and lay new eggs in the leafs and buds to start the cycle over again. After they lay eggs they pupate into adults protected inside the leaves and buds protected from insecticide sprays. They are very hard to get rid of using just spraying and it is said that they can only be controlled not eliminated.

The diatomaceous earth helps stop them from pupating and reproducing. It is 100% non toxic with no pesticides and is safe. Just don't inhale the stuff. It is easily inhaled as it is a powdery super light dust..
I spread it on the soil using a small square plastic tuperware dish and shake a fine layer of snow on the soil top.
Good luck.
 

zymos

Jammin'!
Veteran
spinosad works so that if they eat any part of leaf touched by it. they die off.. so ya id spray just leaves.. don't care wat others say.. I sprayed my buds 1 run with Monterey spinosad.. and fuckin burned every pistil.. so now I just make sure to spray spinosad in Veg only.. and use it as preventative to get thrips to stay away for good.

Hasn't been my experience, in fact just used it a few days ago for the second time during flowering (about a month in) and the pistils look fine.
 

Arthritis_sucks

The Dude
Veteran
I love this stuff for thripes. I spray up to week 4-5 indoors an use a piece of cardboard box to shield the bud an hit all the fan leaves i can. Enough coverage will get them, then reapply 4-5 days later for the next hatch an done.:tiphat:
 

Granger2

Active member
Veteran
I've never had thrips, so I can only relate what I've read in ICMag thrip threads. People have claimed great success with one root drench app. When you kill the stages in the soil, they're done. Life cycle snubbed out.

Spinosad is organic and label says you can spray ON the day of harvest. But I wouldn't do that. If I were to spray any time during bloom, I would follow up with a heavy water spray to wash off the Spinosad. Good luck. -granger
 

zymos

Jammin'!
Veteran
Actually, it comes with a booklet listing dozens of crops and the times between applications and days before harvest. The wait times are between 1 and 10 days before harvest.
Leafy green vegetables have a one day wait.

But if I only had a week or so to go before harvest, I doubt I'd even use it at all.

I might try a couple of soil drenches early on next summer as a preventive. But if you are noticing the effects on the thrips on the leaves, it's past that point of course.
 
A

Alone

The thrips are freakin little race horses! They are super fast.
So far Ive only seen the tiny white ones munching on the lowest fanleaves, leaving shiny patches with small white lines. Very little damage up near the tops. I have to search hard to find any upper damage. Im glad I caught it quick enough Not much lower damage either. I caught it right at the beginning. Im always inspecting my plants daily.

I live in a wicked buggy area. I usually spray as a preventative in veg...like my clones just got sprayed, but I didnt think Ide get thrips. Ive never had them here. I wonder if they came in the FFOF soil. Im always worried about spider mites. Now theres another evil I must prevent in veg.
Any lower, smaller flowers that got sprayed, the pistils turned brown so I cut them all off.
I will get Spinosad today.
Since they already got sprayed with the Safer Brand, Ill wait 1 more day before applying the Spinosad.
Im sooooo glad I can spray this on a flowering plant. I will wash all the buds off during flush, the last two weeks before harvest, so there is no chemicals of any kind on the flowers.
Thank You Guys soooo much for the advice. Its a real relief knowing my crop will be healthy and bugfree at harvest in 4 thru 6 weeks.
 

Granger2

Active member
Veteran
Zymos,
I first used Green Light Spinosad about 3 years ago or so. I read the label then, but not since. I just went online and read the label, and I was wrong when I said ON the day of harvest.

I believe the label has changed, but it may be my faulty memory. Thanks for correcting my bad info. Of course I wouldn't spray on the day of harvest or 1 day before, regardless of the label. -granger
 

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