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crazyb

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do i need anything else random like ph up or down for organics? do i need a ph meter anything for cal/mag do i need a dehumidifier or anything like that
 

crazyb

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whats the best thing to cure with like should i get a drying rack or what? is it easier to make bubble or bho for small amounts will i even be worth the effort or just make edibles?
 

Phychotron

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I'd see how it worked before supplementing it. Finding that perfect sized LED footprint is difficult. If you put a 200 off to the side it would make it more rectangular but probably be fine.

You should check out Kessil for the side lighting.
 

crazyb

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like the 150w? i see this one it comes in magenta purple red blue pretty sure wouldnt want blue would i want red like this one Hydrofarm Kessil KSH150R LED Grow Light 150, Red or what do you think?
 

positivity

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I second the just run one light idea

You'll pay your credit card off faster..lol

The more watts you add in that area the farther you'll get from efficiency and g/w

I ran 240w in a 3 x 2. One fixture. The nugs on the sides were just as nice as the ones in the middle. The light will be reflected all around your space

But, up to you. More watts could lead to bigger nugs. I'm not gonna recommend any more lights, don't wanna feel totally responsible..lol
 

Phychotron

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If your growing in soil you don't need a meter, it will just mess you up when you try to adjust. Don't need cal/mg unless your using RO water or equivalent. You wont need a dehumidifier or anything like that, except for maybe a few days out of the year (depending on the weather or your area). just remember to have good air flow and it will balance out with the rest of the house. If its sealed, or if you turn your fans off at night the humidity will creep up pretty fast and then you start getting powder mildew and stuff like that.

could you remind me of your entire setup again? soil, nutrients, etc..

Don't need a drying rack unless you have grips of bud. clip the branches off the plant, trim the leaf while its wet, leave the buds on the stems and hang dry in a cool dark place for a few days until the stems are starting to crack, then cut the buds off the stems, or cut the stems down to size and put in some paper bags. I put those in plastic trash bags and open and close the plastic to slow the drying process. Fluff the buds around every 12-24 hours and check the humidity of the bag and buds. takes a few more days in paper bags, but worth it to dry slowly. The slower the better, to a degree. the more stem the slower they dry, so if you can leave them on the stem longer it allows you to wick the water from the stem through the buds, giving better flavor.

BHO is dangerous and I keep hearing about people blowing themselves up making it. I make coconut oil out of my trim(no shade leaves), heat it in the oven, boil it for an hour or so, add oil and boil another hour or so, then let it cool and filter it. It makes amazing brownies.

Someone made the comment that you don't need a book cause there is everything on the internet, but the value of reading a book cover to cover is well worth the $20 your going to spend on it. You need to be much more proactive to get all the info out of the internet.
 

crazyb

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would i get anything if i got some bubble bags! i am not into edibles so much but love hash lol or is it alot of work for little outcome
 

crazyb

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thanks everyone for the info i really wish i could setup a second area i want dr greenthumbs sour diesel but all i can do at the present is 12 12 from seed so i think autos it is it just sucks because i like long lasting sativa highs the best dont get me wrong nothing wrong with some bubba or og kush but it is something about East coast Sour Diesel and Chem #4 etc so whats everyone suggest for the stronger autos that are sativa dominant
 

Phychotron

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like the 150w? i see this one it comes in magenta purple red blue pretty sure wouldnt want blue would i want red like this one Hydrofarm Kessil KSH150R LED Grow Light 150, Red or what do you think?

well, don't be fooled by the model number, i think i just read that the 150 is 36w. Probably the magenta would be the best bet. try the one light out and see how you like it though, you might not need the added lights.
 

Phychotron

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bubble bags will work, but they take a lot of work. Might need to save your trim up for a bit to make it worth your while. dry ice is suppose to make it easier

if your going with auto's you dont need to go 12/12, so you could veg a sativa next to your flowering auto's and have the next batch 12/12 with non-auto's.
 

crazyb

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If your growing in soil you don't need a meter, it will just mess you up when you try to adjust. Don't need cal/mg unless your using RO water or equivalent. You wont need a dehumidifier or anything like that, except for maybe a few days out of the year (depending on the weather or your area). just remember to have good air flow and it will balance out with the rest of the house. If its sealed, or if you turn your fans off at night the humidity will creep up pretty fast and then you start getting powder mildew and stuff like that.

could you remind me of your entire setup again? soil, nutrients, etc..

Don't need a drying rack unless you have grips of bud. clip the branches off the plant, trim the leaf while its wet, leave the buds on the stems and hang dry in a cool dark place for a few days until the stems are starting to crack, then cut the buds off the stems, or cut the stems down to size and put in some paper bags. I put those in plastic trash bags and open and close the plastic to slow the drying process. Fluff the buds around every 12-24 hours and check the humidity of the bag and buds. takes a few more days in paper bags, but worth it to dry slowly. The slower the better, to a degree. the more stem the slower they dry, so if you can leave them on the stem longer it allows you to wick the water from the stem through the buds, giving better flavor.

BHO is dangerous and I keep hearing about people blowing themselves up making it. I make coconut oil out of my trim(no shade leaves), heat it in the oven, boil it for an hour or so, add oil and boil another hour or so, then let it cool and filter it. It makes amazing brownies.

Someone made the comment that you don't need a book cause there is everything on the internet, but the value of reading a book cover to cover is well worth the $20 your going to spend on it. You need to be much more proactive to get all the info out of the internet.
hey and thanks again bro my nest question is how to post safely if i do a journal and seeds as for my setup ill run through what i can remember
i have a dr90 says 3x3x6ft
6 airpots
6inch vortex fan and carbon scrubber and that fan controller someone said may or may not work variatic or whatever lol
of course the clw 400w ledand my nutes i bought by skimming through peoples grows were these nutes http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00572026S/ref=oh_details_o07_s01_i04?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HY2ODU/ref=oh_details_o07_s01_i05?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049NXBUA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049NZ3K6/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 i also bought a brita pitcher and 3 pack of filters
 

crazyb

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bubble bags will work, but they take a lot of work. Might need to save your trim up for a bit to make it worth your while. dry ice is suppose to make it easier

if your going with auto's you dont need to go 12/12, so you could veg a sativa next to your flowering auto's and have the next batch 12/12 with non-auto's.

thats a good idea if i did 4 autos in 2gallon pots u think thats good i might have to try out the vegging some and see are the autos still strong i just see the low thc count in some its got me worried but some look super crystally so it can't be too bad
 
that thing looks like it will have a pretty nice footprint, if you want to supplement any side lighting (i probably wouldn't), i would probably go with t5s or pl-l in the corners.
 

Neekz

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I don't know why you're drinking a big ol' cup of haterade against me, I'm referring the guy directly to the manufacturer who I and two other of my friends are having great luck with. Who gives a shit if its from china, they are ahead of us in almost every way technologically, it is what it is... I had no idea that he only had amazon credit because the way he phrased it wasn't too clear initially then I was gone to my girl's house for a few days and missed some posts. Don't be a dick about it man. :)

Does this look like bad bud to you? Pic is LA con ready in 47 days by DZLHIT using the evergrow. This pheno takes 70 days under normal lights in a well dialed hydro system.

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Branding is pretty pointless anyway. What really matters is the spectrum and drivers in the end. (I totally agree with the above post about that) Look at the diagram I posted earlier in the thread and find a manufacturer that provides a similar spectrum.

The bud in the post above does look pretty mediocre IMO.

I have a similar unit, more like a growblu housing though. Same result's pheno aside. Point being if you do your research you will probably get the result's you are wanting. I was under the understanding that Amazon was gonna be like eBay, full of sketchy panel's, with Blackstar's seeming the most reliable. Then I actually saw that they have some more legit vendor's on there (CLW is a no brainer for anybody with a under $1k budget and wanting more than a couple zip's...).

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to spread the knowledge of the technology, rather than call "these guy's" junk and so and so. DS are the exact same quality component's as Blackstar, except a few key areas I stated(Driver current, lens system, and color ratio...). If it's his first time, I think lighting is the least of his worries ahead... Good growin brother :tiphat: ...
 

crazyb

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i see you say you probably wouldnt well hey no need to get anymore can anyone tell me some goodies i can buy i have a few but anything would be cool
 

crazyb

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sour diesel #2 fems by humboldt seed have got me thinking oh man this really makes me want to say screw the autos for the first trip but i dont know if i can yield the same amount of buds with fems in the same amount of time or more bud to cover the time but i dont like to take too long before harvest what if i was to get 9 3 gallon air pots for 12/12 how much do you think i would yield
 

crazyb

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kool what about this it says in description 12/12 flowering is this not a true auto? sour-diesel-haze by flash seeds
 
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