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Marc Emery Apologizes: Emery Says he Lied in 2009 About Smoking with Trudeau

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fatigues

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OTTAWA -- Pro-pot activist Marc Emery is offering his mea culpas to Justin Trudeau from a U.S. jail for saying he'd smoked pot a few times with the Liberal leader.

But Emery said he did get high once with Trudeau in August 2003 on a restaurant patio in Vancouver, though it was Emery "doing most of the smoking."

Trudeau said Friday Emery was "flat out lying" about the 2009 allegations, only met Emery once, and abstained from any pot use with the activist.

Emery apologized in an emailed response to questions about his remarks. In the email, forwarded to QMI Agency on Saturday by his wife Jodie Emery, he says it was a "very loose and irresponsible misrepresentation of what most people would regard '4 or 5 times.'

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"I am indeed recorded telling a falsehood that until now, I was unaware was out there. I'm totally embarrassed about it. I take my reputation very seriously, as of course, does Mr. Trudeau, and I'm really saddened that I have caused him some grief by this clear misrepresentation."

Emery said a video of his remarks only began circulating online after his 2010 sentencing and incarceration in Yazoo City federal prison in Mississippi, where he's currently serving a five-year term for selling pot seeds by mail.

"I am wrong, wrong, wrong," he said. "That video was recoded in July 2009, I was clearly upset that in the 2009 session of Parliament, Mr. Trudeau supported the Conservative legislation on mandatory minimums for pot."

The video shows Emery calling the now Liberal leader a "hypocrite" for voting along with the rest of the Liberal caucus in favour of Bill C-15, which would have introduced tougher penalties for growing pot plants and saying he'd smoked pot with Trudeau on more than one occasion.

C-15 did not pass but similar legislation became law in 2012 as part of omnibus crime bill Bill C-10.

Earlier this week, Trudeau revealed he'd smoked pot "five or six" times in his life, including once about three years ago at a dinner party.

He was MP for the Montreal riding of Papineau at the time.
 

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Green Supreme

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Some of the press since this has been humorous. One reporter said Emery smoked big baggers, lol. Another said he smoked big daggers. Guess the can't figure out gaggers. Peace GS
 

RespectGreen

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He's a true office politic that happens to smoke weed, is how I think of emery after this comment right here....

"I am wrong, wrong, wrong," he said. "That video was recoded in July 2009, I was clearly upset that in the 2009 session of Parliament, Mr. Trudeau supported the Conservative legislation on mandatory minimums for pot."


so what because you're emotional it breaks ground to start lying, so that to make people jump to support your cause??


Our cause is right we don't need to lie, people like emery and others need to lie

Oh and his wifes hot, but I don't like her either
 

fatigues

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when's he getting out of the US jail?

That's very much up in the air. The US DoJ has approved him for transfer to a Canadian prison to serve out the remainder of his sentence. But the Canadian Government has to request that transfer first.

Safe bet would be to assume that he will not be transferred back to Canada until the very last possible day. Given Canada's parole laws, Emery would be expected to be released on parole almost immediately upon his transfer.

The current Conservative government in Ottawa clearly does not like Marc Emery and has a policy, generally, of not requesting transfers back of any Canadian citizens who are convicted of drug crimes abroad.

There is, sadly, every reason to assume that Marc Emery will be in prison for as long as the authorities can legally keep him there. Less than a year to go it looks like right now, with his release to take place probably June, 2014 -- but who knows?
 

RespectGreen

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Oh, and she speaks so highly of you. Peace GS

Well she must've "rubbed" you the right way ;) jk cracking a little fun



Lol she loves me btw, no I don't like her weed persona and stoner memory has made me forget of the exact situation that took place..... Something about seeing her at the last few events and this celeb persona she had

I do have remorse for her though, I've done time.... It's harder on the women outside then the men inside usually, unless you're a super fragile type of guy
 

fatigues

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He's a true office politic that happens to smoke weed, is how I think of emery after this comment right here....

so what because you're emotional it breaks ground to start lying, so that to make people jump to support your cause??

Our cause is right we don't need to lie, people like emery and others need to lie

Oh and his wifes hot, but I don't like her either

Marc Emery is an easy target at times. While I do not much like his personal politics, he has come out in support of Trudeau and the Liberal Party of Canada over the past month, without hesitation or reservation and is urging all activists in Canada to do the same.

As a lot of those activists are currently supporting the Green Party or the NDP. Indeed, Marc's wife, Jodie Emery, ran as a candidate for the Green Party in the last election. So going all-in behind Trudeau and the Liberals is a significant request by Emery of grass-roots activists, especially in B.C., in favor of Trudeau. It's an example of practical politics by Emery that, to be perfectly honest, a lot of activists in Emery's native B.C. are simply too idealistic to easily accept. Emery is right, but it is going to take a while for those activists to switch their political allegiances.

Moreover, there are also a lot of growers in B.C. whose incomes are gravely threatened by Trudeau's policy. Unlike with Prop 19, say, where the market price was not as completely threatened due to cannabis continuing to be a Schedule 1 drug, the situation in Canada with this proposal is very different.

My point: you should take a lot of negative comments concerning Trudeau and his proposal for legalization of cannabis in Canada well-salted. The growers' wallets are starting to do most of their talking for them. I've seen it here on ICM already in the past week.

At the end of the day, Emery went to jail for what literally hundreds of others were doing without reproach or interference. Emery went to jail because he called Bush's "Drug Czar" a liar to his face during a speech in Vancouver (and he was lying, too) and because Emery spent most of his dollars from seed sales on "the cause."

Say what you want about Emery, but a man who puts his money where his mouth is and does five years in prison for it is a more committed activist than anybody I know. And I expect a more sincere activist than those that you know, too.

It also takes some real courage to admit to Canada's news media that you lied.

How all of that weighs out in your personal scales is up to you. But in my view, it isn't fair to leave those factors off of the scale when you are weighing and judging Marc Emery.
 

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I never liked Mark Emery as a person, and his seeds where seriously overpriced, but I will stand behind him every day, he´s fighting the good cause and have always done so, never been afraid to stand up for what he believes in, and as fatigues says, always put his money where his mouth is, so much respect to him and I wish him a speedy return to freedom
 

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yeah this is an issue of basic human rights and using unjust law to take away a persons liberty. who or what the person is is not as important as why. i really hope that he gets out soon, terrible to think of all these people in jail for victimless so called crimes. to me that is the far bigger crime. that type of justice is an injustice as it turns a victimless situation into a victim full situation so to speak. they now have a family broken, a wife suffering, possibly children suffering, all for what? so someone who hasn't hurt anyone financially or physically can be locked up at the expense of the tax payer! what kinda crazy fucked up shit is that?

further more he really did use his money for activism, had he put it aside for a great lawyer, he might not have had to do time or maybe less time, although it did seem like they wanted to make an example of him due to his outspokenness and ability to create a splash and be heard.

i wonder if the Canadian gov can be petitioned to ask for him back under humanitarian grounds, ie prosecuted for a crime that didnt exist where it was committed. they didnt refuse extradition, but this surely is not much to ask.
 

gaiusmarius

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yeah pretty damn pathetic, when what he did was not even a crime in Canada. thats why i was thinking of a petition, or some thing to try change the govs mind about asking for Emmery back, maybe if you can get public opinion on his side the gov will relent?
 

fatigues

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yeah pretty damn pathetic, when what he did was not even a crime in Canada. thats why i was thinking of a petition, or some thing to try change the govs mind about asking for Emmery back, maybe if you can get public opinion on his side the gov will relent?

They are not going to relent and the Harper Government has made that clear by now.
 

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Marc was a lier and had local growers reproduce seeds for him to sell as the originals from the breeders. So in my book he is just shit. That said he did not deserve jail, he deserved to payback the folks he cheated. I wish he would of had a lawyer fund before he got busted instead of just asking the community for help out of a situation he created and profited from. But he did not have enough sense to know the future could be jail. The seed biz is an easy way to make money if you have no morals, Marc is a great example. I refused to sell him seeds, one of very few, as I normally do not care what people do with my seeds after I have sold them, he just rubbed me the wrong way, and I did not trust him at all.
Wonder what he will do when he gets out? I am sure he is addicted to the limelight, he will be back.
-SamS
 

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Marc was a lier and had local growers reproduce seeds for him to sell as the originals from the breeders. So in my book he is just shit. That said he did not deserve jail, he deserved to payback the folks he cheated. I wish he would of had a lawyer fund before he got busted instead of just asking the community for help out of a situation he created and profited from. But he did not have enough sense to know the future could be jail. The seed biz is an easy way to make money if you have no morals, Marc is a great example. I refused to sell him seeds, one of very few, as I normally do not care what people do with my seeds after I have sold them, he just rubbed me the wrong way, and I did not trust him at all.
Wonder what he will do when he gets out? I am sure he is addicted to the limelight, he will be back.
-SamS


Exactly correct in every way!!!
 

fatigues

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Marc was a lier and had local growers reproduce seeds for him to sell as the originals from the breeders. So in my book he is just shit.

I can't really respond to that. I wasn't there in the room when it happened and I don't know from personal knowledge, so anything I could add would all be hearsay.

That said he did not deserve jail, he deserved to payback the folks he cheated. I wish he would of had a lawyer fund before he got busted instead of just asking the community for help out of a situation he created and profited from.
That would be the same "community" he gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to over the course of a decade, you mean?

Activists in Canada didn't fault Marc Emery for asking for money for his legal defence.

Emery gave away a LOT of his proceeds from seeds to activists in the USA and Canada over the years. That's the main reason they arrested him in the first place. More importantly as I understand it, the RCMP seized and froze what funds there were left in the bank at the time.

When you are trying to run your business legitimately and file taxes regularly as a "marijuana seeds salesman", and do so without consequence for a decade, it can change your business practices. For example, you end up feeling comfortable enough to not sock away a stack of bills in a safe deposit box under somebody else's name.

Marc Emery has his faults, but I'm not inclined to add that one to a list of them.

Wonder what he will do when he gets out? I am sure he is addicted to the limelight, he will be back.
He's an activist and one of the best known in the world. Do you want him to stop and just run his website and head shop?

He may well do so. If Canada legalizes under Trudeau, we will probably see "coffee houses" in the style of the Netherlands throughout B.C. at least. One would expect that his Cannabis Culture shop on West Hastings street would be the first to sell it legally in Vancouver -- and probably the country.

And I suppose that Emery could just notch that up as "victory" and call it a day. Cozy up to his wife and maybe have a few kids. Would you blame him for it if he did?

Whatever the case, we know that he won't be "in the limelight" in the USA. His conviction by the US Federal Government will mean that when he is ultimately transferred from prison to the authorities in Canada, that will be the last time he sets foot (legally) in the United States.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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I agree that Marc gave away a lot of seed sales profit to help Cannabis activism. But I can not overlook his knocking off other breeders varieties. He gave interviews that made him a target, he reveled in the publicity, and then in the end had no funds for a lawyer, what can I say? Anyone with any common sense would have a plan for being busted, or am I missing something? He sold seeds for 10 years that is long enough to have lawyers ready and paid for in advance.
The bottom line is he did not deserve jail in the USA for selling seeds, but the reward is related to the risk. He liked the reward, he ignored the risk.
Like many heros that people create he was of many shades, good and bad. I am sure he meant well most of the time. But I just did not like him.
-SamS
 

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WHAT,NO LAWYERS at the time??????

SHit man,i thought for shure for shure,he had good
BIG lawyers to guide him in the seed sales an all...........
an then it was just the thing with the US bringing him down????
WHAT no lawyers,NO MONEY too,friggin crist he had lots from what i thought???

Really SUCKS going to prison for seeds,no matter what he was....
Hope he learned som'm in the pen,an comes out with a better additude,as i did!
Lg
 
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