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HH Spray 2.0 + LED Tubes + BrandX Seeds

PetFlora

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The other G13 seeds did not make it, crossing my fingers one is a male

Just moved babies into the tube tent.

The 2 on the far left (one on each row) are the G13s

It was a busy day, I chopped and trimmed Clone #2 >113gms

Babies moved to LED tent.
Currently under 1 NW + 3 WW tubes, probably only basking under 20-25watts. Will add some globes tomorrow.

Roots had already grown into the nutes, so I trimmed them back to force more roots near the base

Tomorrow I will figure out how to rig the Floom set up for the babies + figure out whether to harvest clone # 1, or put her in the dark for a few days

first bud pic is from Clone 2, I managed to snap it off this morning. It was already hanging so I did not add to the scale, but it is 13gms, totaling 112 gms trimmed and wet

Also attempting to reveg clone 2, now set up with HH 2.0


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Great Find at Home Depot

Great Find at Home Depot

I was looking for a new tote that wasn't as deep as my big red tote, which I used upstairs in my HOT5 tent. Not that the depth is a big problem, but the high side walls can get in the way when cleaning.

I would get a E & F tray but they are $$$$$$

But I found this at HD for $9.97! and may only need the lid. I will be doing some dry run testing in a bit

My plan is to move the babies into 1 liter Air Pots ASAP to max root development, which is already getting out of hand in the 1.5" net pots hanging over the bubbler

I'm confident that I can cluster 3 APs under one Ring x 2 without issues, and they should veg just fine. Once big enough I will simply drop the entire 1 liter APs into 4 liter APs and sidefill with either lava rock and/or river rock

I am trying to reveg clone # 2 in a single bucket HH. I just put the 160 gph pump on a timer with 15/30 intervals


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Cheap F & D Tray

Cheap F & D Tray

I am ecstatic to report my idea has gone as planned

Now I just have to monitor the babies to make sure they are happy campers

I chose this size tray as it will also accommodate 3 @ 4 liter APs (each with its own Halo Ring), as once the babies grow to the next stage I will put the entire 1 liter APs inside the 4 liter APs (again side-filling the sides with river rock and the bottom with lava rock).

3 will be moved upstairs to the other tent with the much anticipated, but yet to be named prototype LED fixture that isn't here yet

In the lower right hand corner is a hole for draining back to the rez. As I had no place left to put the 7th plant I put it over the hole so it can get watered


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PetFlora

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As you can tell from the 2 @ 3 clone clusters over 2 Hydro Halo Rings, some adjusting was a given. I also have the Clone #2 reveg experiment going in a single bucket self contained HH system in the right hand corner. The 6" rings too small for 3 APs, I have another so I will make that super quick adjustment as soon as I am done here

Arranged in a triangle to max benefit from led globe lumens

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All of a sudden it dawned on me to use a HH Drip Ring + pump inside my outboard rez.

Now I am going to put my HH Ring on the tripod legs (included) and put it in the well of a curved bowl filled with river rock. The lip of which should be >5" above the rez line so as to create a sufficient turbulence in the rez surface below. Dollar Stores sell small plastic organizers in a variety of sizes, whose 4 sides have large holes, makes a perfect stand to raise the bowl

I'm 2-3 weeks away from moving 3-4 plants upstairs. Hoping the Lone Ranger led light gets here by then

If you don't have a pump then buy a 160 gph $10 from www.cheaphydroponics.com

The volume and high walls of my rez might allow me to use my 320 gph pump, which will create a lot more turbulence, but add some heat

Now I am going to put my HH Ring on the tripod legs (included) and put it in the well of a curved bowl filled with river rock. The lip of which should be >5" above the rez line so as to create a sufficient disturbance in the rez surface below. Dollar Stores sell small plastic organizers in a variety of sizes, whose 4 sides have large holes, makes a perfect stand


So, for less than the price of a quality air pump + quality air stones I will be moving the nutes + aerating them, and adding chi by having the ring spray crash onto and flow over the river rocks 24/7. I'm betting this will pay dividends

If I wasn't running the feed cycle on a timer I could just T off the pump's riser, but I come from the school that believes hydro roots need/want a dry period to properly process the food before their next meal. The trick is to find sweet spot between how much and how often to feed them.

So how are the girls doing? I'm glad you ask. Very well, thank you, but that is to be expected as there is virtually no trauma- small net cup drops directly into larger net cup side filled with river rock.

Once I get a new starter tote and a 3+" hole saw blade (keep forgetting to put it on my list) all future seedlings/clones will start in the 3.5" net cups. I have a feeling the roots will establish a much larger diameter base than they did the first go round, due to the the net cup being twice as wide across the bottom
 
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PetFlora

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Now that Ive got a handle on the volume of nutes flowing per cycle, as well as how long the net cups stay wet, I increased the length of time between feed cycles

Now at 30 seconds on and one hour off

In the reveg bucket, due to timer having minimum 15 min intervals, feed cycle is 15 min/hour during lights on, but will increase to very 2-3 hours by tomorrow
 

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G13x seeds cracked on 8/6, the WHx were started later and cracked on 8/9.

As the cotyledons opened, I placed them in my DIY bubbler, now ~ 15 days old
, but only the beginning of the 4th day in the AP/HH system.

It appears that I am onto a dynamic way to veg young plants/clones

It occurred to me that a small AP system also lends itself to SOG, I will attempt to grow 2 of the BrandX WH x this way, side-by-side with 2 in 4 liter APs.

I have grown a sat dom to harvest in a 1 liter in my first iteration of spraying from the top. There is probably a pic of it at harvest near the end of my D2W 320gph thread. It grew quite well, any shortcomings the result of my DIY spray system not adequately watering it


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PetFlora

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I am noticing that nutes are evaporating fast, consequently the importance of having sufficient head room (extra nutes in the rez) in order to supply the full volume during each feeding.

Also, I increased the 'on' time from 15 seconds to 25 seconds

Stems are quite strong + leafs are getting large

Once they develop a few more nodes, which means the root system is expanding, I will decrease the pause time, so the plants get fed more often

Pics tomorrow
 

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Energizing My Rez for Max DO + Chi

Energizing My Rez for Max DO + Chi

Here's my first attempt to create max DO/Chi. This is on its' own 160gph pump

The bucket diameter is too narrow. Keep in mind this set up requires a second pump to pump nutes to the plants.

It works, BUT...

I think it requires a flat plate, as opposed to a curved bowl as the water does not cascade/fall over the edge, instead it rolls down the underside of the bowl.

However, a flat plate will not hold the legs in place, so be prepared to make the necessary adjustments


Might as well show you how the babies are responding

The main stalks are strong

G13 is at ~ 2 and 3 o'clock. The one at 3 is a beast.I hope the one at 2 o'clock is a male. I keep talking to it. All the rest are WH X WW


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PetFlora

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Pics or it didn't happen, Right? Well, the G13 beast is blowin my mind, and the rest are doing pretty good, too. That's her in pic #1 at ~ 2 o'clock

There are a few chinks in using the HHs over 3 plants. It's hard to get the nutes close to the main stalk

I find it necessary to raise the main feeder tube up highr than the Rings, otherwise the drops do not make it to the ends of the rings


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Flooming Rez 2.0

Flooming Rez 2.0

Here's my new version of Flooming Rez using HH Ring + 160 gph pump

A little hard to see but on the right hand side water is cascading over the lip splashing into the water line

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I really like the look of those stones in there, its like a burbling brook :)

so if i have this right, your trying to get ordered water by pushing through the magnets, then its all gravy from there?
 

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I really like the look of those stones in there, its like a burbling brook :)

so if i have this right, your trying to get ordered water by pushing through the magnets, then its all gravy from there?

If you search merkaba, it's a 6 pointed star, it creates an energy vortex precursor in the center said to enhance whatever is inside it. It can be created with leds or magnets.

I have long promoted DIY 1w diodes be arranged in merkaba clusters. 5 staggered rows of equally spaced diodes automatically creates merkaba

River Rock is different but fast flowing water cascading over it creates chi, presumably another form energy

and then there's vortex energy created when runniing water travels through and over same size spheres in a tube, or through a curved vessel with a small (8- 8.5mm) hole creating a double vortex

None of these is costly to implement, so I am adding them to my regimen in hopes of turbo-charging/super charging my grows


Confused?

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I moved the Reveg upstairs which gave me sufficient room for my tote rez into which I added my HH Floom + RR set up. Pump runs 24/7. The sound is very relaxing. I bet the plants are going to love it


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It's a bit hard to see the water cascading over the rocks and back into the rez, The idea here is to create turbulence, which breaks surface tension + oxygenates the rez= Chi

Rez gets covered to keep light out

I named the biggest plant Sophia, she is a G13x. The close up is her





 

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The Final Frontier: Magnets

The Final Frontier: Magnets

Last grow I experimented putting magnets around the base of both clones. Without a control plant, no way to know, but water structured with magnets + vortexing has been proven on commercial farms, so...

The final energy tweak is magnets. Until I get the plants into the net pot lids there is no way to place them. And I 'need' 6 per plant, that adds up, but...

The devices farms are using the water passes through a tube with vortexing spheres inside + a magnet on each end opposing forces facing in

I think I can accomplish the same result for all plants by passing the 1/2" feeder tube (as it comes out of the riser) through 2 opposing force magnets.

I did this to both set ups at 6pm

Pics tomorrow
 
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