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[isaih520]

Ok bottom line then is general excecutor will not help anyone here.
So why are you trolling me?
I know the freeman info backwards, So I know there's not an original thought expressed in any of your posts, not to mention you lack understanding of the information you've googled.
Also you could act as a MacKenzie friend so the judge wouldnt trick them, if you so desired. So once again your reasoning is spurious.
Please for the 3rd time of asking -start your own thread.
That would be the honourable thing to do would it not?

Hard rain. around 12 years ago I was a plumber. I got sick with a mysterious malaise and treatments were making me sicker. I was bed bound for several years. I discovered to my surprise that western medicine was not simply incompetent but deliberately malicious.
I determined to find out why.

I have read alot of books in that time (most of them a waste of time) and it never occurred to me that I would have to prove to someone else down the track that this or that is true. So I didn't think to make notes.
I had no idea if I would find something, let alone that I may have to prove it to others later. But I can offer you something I wish I'd had - signposts.
Saves 99% of the effort, believe me.
You will soon discover that history has been falsified. which makes it difficult. Most of the historical fact we assume is true is ' proved ' through referring to some man's opinion who in turn referred to another man's opinion. Which is one the chief methods of exchanging truth for lies.

I'm not a fan of this method of proof.-
I rely on history that the priests can't rewrite. Laws, trial records are honest history.
That's why the Bill Of RIghts was hidden from us. Its a smoking gun, particularly when you realise the importance of the title "bill"

If you're genuinely interested I'll point you towards some places to start. Its a big topic and you'll be reading awhile.

If I have stated a fact, then it can be confirmed , usually by admission by those who are guilty of the wrong doing.
If I have not confirmed fact , I say that I'm not sure. If you read through again you will see that I differentiate between fact and assumption.

The middle temple has its own website and until recently (2 months ago) admitted proudly to everything I said about them. It has since toned it down which would require more work for confirmation. The Knights of Malta and the temple are one and the same.


The catholics proposed communism through St Thomas More and his Utopia. An extension of Plato's Republic.

And put this into practice through the first communist state in Paraguay - the Jesuit Reductions. Long before Marx and Engels . Which you may notice, once you look into them, we are living in a complex version of today.

The Fabian Society orginated in France as a Jacobin group created by the Jesuits , and exported it to England as the JAcobins finally died out. Renamed and given fresh roots.

Whitlam was a Fabian communist by the way.


If you know where to look , you need only google, very easy to do.

You will also need to develop skills of discerning fact from fiction. Which we are not taught at school.We are taught to trust authority. Or in other words taught to believe lies.

we are used to being spoonfed information. This requires zero effort, and you have to take that information on trust. If you search for the source information yourself, you may find something much more valuable than parrotfood.


Anyhow that's a place to start

I'm David H by the way on Larry hannigans site. He rewrote what I wrote here for his members, with my permission. I don't agree 100% with his rewrite( he is catholic , I'm a protestant) but I'm happy for him to use it if it gets people to fight the coup de'tat
Larry's written books and is published in several languages. He's been trying to expose the backdoor takeover of Australia for 40 years. And is quite well known.

I also got alot of info about the takeover from the dismissal.com which after I shared it on a website with other like minded men, was censored,
And that whole site(which I believe is government sponsored) has been dismantled and now has a restricted area. BEcause Whitlam was pretty straightforaward in interviews/speeches at the time.
but noone realised then what he was saying.
what he did was so massive a crime, I suppose noone gelled.

the proof is in the pudding as shown by other members here re:the counterfeit corporation presently running the show.
this wasnt my discovery, it was Dick Yardleys. And it was a hell of a discovery. who on earth would look up the US Security Exchange for our government listed as a corporation?

Thats why I like to credit him, and others who discover these things. There's alot of wasted time in finding one bit of hidden truth.

I asked earlier what kangavitas situation was.
I still dont have an answer. Is he your mate?

 

[hard rain]

Ok bottom line then is general excecutor will not help anyone here.
So why are you trolling me?
I know the freeman info backwards, So I know there's not an original thought expressed in any of your posts, not to mention you lack understanding of the information you've googled.
Also you could act as a MacKenzie friend so the judge wouldnt trick them, if you so desired. So once again your reasoning is spurious.
Please for the 3rd time of asking -start your own thread.
That would be the honourable thing to do would it not?

Hard rain. around 12 years ago I was a plumber. I got sick with a mysterious malaise and treatments were making me sicker. I was bed bound for several years. I discovered to my surprise that western medicine was not simply incompetent but deliberately malicious.
I determined to find out why.

I have read alot of books in that time (most of them a waste of time) and it never occurred to me that I would have to prove to someone else down the track that this or that is true. So I didn't think to make notes.
I had no idea if I would find something, let alone that I may have to prove it to others later. But I can offer you something I wish I'd had - signposts.
Saves 99% of the effort, believe me.
You will soon discover that history has been falsified. which makes it difficult. Most of the historical fact we assume is true is ' proved ' through referring to some man's opinion who in turn referred to another man's opinion. Which is one the chief methods of exchanging truth for lies.

I'm not a fan of this method of proof.-
I rely on history that the priests can't rewrite. Laws, trial records are honest history.
That's why the Bill Of RIghts was hidden from us. Its a smoking gun, particularly when you realise the importance of the title "bill"

If you're genuinely interested I'll point you towards some places to start. Its a big topic and you'll be reading awhile.

If I have stated a fact, then it can be confirmed , usually by admission by those who are guilty of the wrong doing.
If I have not confirmed fact , I say that I'm not sure. If you read through again you will see that I differentiate between fact and assumption.

The middle temple has its own website and until recently (2 months ago) admitted proudly to everything I said about them. It has since toned it down which would require more work for confirmation. The Knights of Malta and the temple are one and the same.


The catholics proposed communism through St Thomas More and his Utopia. An extension of Plato's Republic.

And put this into practice through the first communist state in Paraguay - the Jesuit Reductions. Long before Marx and Engels . Which you may notice, once you look into them, we are living in a complex version of today.

The Fabian Society orginated in France as a Jacobin group created by the Jesuits , and exported it to England as the JAcobins finally died out. Renamed and given fresh roots.

Whitlam was a Fabian communist by the way.


If you know where to look , you need only google, very easy to do.

You will also need to develop skills of discerning fact from fiction. Which we are not taught at school.We are taught to trust authority. Or in other words taught to believe lies.

we are used to being spoonfed information. This requires zero effort, and you have to take that information on trust. If you search for the source information yourself, you may find something much more valuable than parrotfood.


Anyhow that's a place to start

I'm David H by the way on Larry hannigans site. He rewrote what I wrote here for his members, with my permission. I don't agree 100% with his rewrite( he is catholic , I'm a protestant) but I'm happy for him to use it if it gets people to fight the coup de'tat
Larry's written books and is published in several languages. He's been trying to expose the backdoor takeover of Australia for 40 years. And is quite well known.

I also got alot of info about the takeover from the dismissal.com which after I shared it on a website with other like minded men, was censored,
And that whole site(which I believe is government sponsored) has been dismantled and now has a restricted area. BEcause Whitlam was pretty straightforaward in interviews/speeches at the time.
but noone realised then what he was saying.
what he did was so massive a crime, I suppose noone gelled.

the proof is in the pudding as shown by other members here re:the counterfeit corporation presently running the show.
this wasnt my discovery, it was Dick Yardleys. And it was a hell of a discovery. who on earth would look up the US Security Exchange for our government listed as a corporation?

Thats why I like to credit him, and others who discover these things. There's alot of wasted time in finding one bit of hidden truth.

I asked earlier what kangavitas situation was.
I still dont have an answer. Is he your mate?

So you expect us to reject conventional historical versions that are well researched and referenced? Then you want us to take your version of history as correct? That is laughable.

Your arrogance is breathtaking. Do you really think people do not have the skills to discern fact from fiction? These skills are actually precisely what are taught in universities. You are given a wide variety of sources and you must make a logical argument after weighing up competing views. I hope you see the irony in asking us to reject conventional history, yet accept your version.

I have repeatedly asked you to link me to what you know and yet again you do not.

You also have not replied to my questions in an earlier post. Please explain how Whitlam staged a Communist coup in 1973? I don't recall a workers uprising in 1973? How do the Catholic Priests control Communism today? Start with China. Cuba perhaps? Whitlam was a member of the Fabien society. You are the one who calls him a Communist. Are you trying to make a point or is it deliberately misleading?

The same class conflicts Marx/Engels wrote about are still apparent today, just more complex. While it can be argued that certain societies had aspects of Communism like shared ownership, Communism in it's modern form originated with Marx. "Religion is the opium of the people" Marx. I would be really interested how you tie modern communism with the catholic church (actually maybe I wouldn't).

Thanks for 'fessing up to who you are but you really should have done so in the first place. If I had seen the Larry Hannigan site and realised you had simply taken your history from there I wouldn't have wasted a great deal of time with this.

I don't know Kangativa, just admire his growing skills. I think it was someone else who asked you a question about him.

 

[GeneralExecutor]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ok bottom line then is general excecutor will not help anyone here.
So why are you trolling me?
I know the freeman info backwards, So I know there's not an original thought expressed in any of your posts, not to mention you lack understanding of the information you've googled.
Also you could act as a MacKenzie friend so the judge wouldnt trick them, if you so desired. So once again your reasoning is spurious.
Please for the 3rd time of asking -start your own thread.
That would be the honourable thing to do would it not?[/FONT]

We are not sure why you asked us questions given we clearly said we would abide by your wish to leave. We therefore feel we should return given your implied consent to do so.


Listen isiah; you keep regurgitating the same tripe again and again expecting others to swallow it as though it were a feast for the senses.

You do NOT know ALL the freeman stuff, you do NOT know HOW to back your own words with evidence, you will NOT be able to help anyone with your methodology, you will only get them into deeper trouble.

People such as Kangativa do NOT strike me as small time operators such as yourself. People such as they are well organised; people like they do NOT ask others if they know where to grow guerrilla outdoors as you do; people like that would or may have real assets backing them, unlike yourself; people like that would or may have a lot to lose financially if they take YOUR stance in court, with or without you. Mackenzie's friend or mediator, anyone attempting to assist people in Kangativa's predicament using your belligerent stance meant only for those who ALREADY have NOTHING TO LOSE will in turn lose MORE than if they conditionally/restrictively cooperate with the Court.

You go in with someone like that and start your ranting as a Macka's friend, and they attempt to walk/storm out of the place with you, then they, if not both of you, will be set upon before you have a chance to take 3 paces, like a pit-bull sets itself upon a jack russell. Wake up man, stop deluding yourself and attempting to get others into far more serious trouble than they may already be in.

In such instance, and we have witnessed such instances in the past, after both of you were arrested and beaten to a pulp before making it half way out of the courtroom, the judge would IMMEDIATELY call for an EX PARTE hearing on the matter. ie, thanks to your brilliant ways, people such as Kangativa would then be placed in a position where they would NOT even be ALLOWED to be present or have any form of REPRESENTATION present during the ENTIRE trail.

And seeing as you know everything else, guess what the outcome would be? MAXIMUM sentence on all counts whatever they are, seizure of every bit of asset in their person's name, EVEN assets which they may have conveyed to any loved ones in the past YEARS... and we know of cases where they have EXCEEDED seizing everything dating back more than 5 years in what they call criminal matters, which in reality had no victim.

Hard rain,

We understand your views, they are legitimate and fair given what is being presented and claimed by this fool. He has not and it seems he will not provide any form of real proof or evidence to back up any controversy he's raised. He expects people such as yourself to take his word as LAW and LORE without question. We have asked he provide simply proof of 2 case numbers to matters he earlier claimed occurred, to which users here may unknowingly invoke the purported outcome of such cases when confronted by the law in an effort to protect themselves. We have searched all the respective Court records during the year he claimed it occurred, we spent a lot of time doing it, and when we search such records, we do it well, YET NOTHING was discovered to ever have occurred as he claimed it did.

So we now ask for the latter again, and we FURTHER ask he provide the CASE NUMBER/S of the cases which he CLAIMED to have made his stand in and obtained immunity from dope possession/cultivation/distribution or whatever else he claimed.

If he does not, then we know well who the troll truly is in this FORUM.

Careful now HardRain, he may end up calling you a troll too.

Put up isaih or you know what.

The only certain belligerence you have proven thus far is your attitude in this forum - full stop. All we have done is attempted to provide input herein, nothing more.

And if you again ask us to leave, then do not ask us questions as well.

You are really something man. Pity.

 

[noyd666]

were's me lawyer

 

[isaih520]

So you expect us to reject conventional historical versions that are well researched and referenced? Then you want us to take your version of history as correct? That is laughable.

Your arrogance is breathtaking. Do you really think people do not have the skills to discern fact from fiction? These skills are actually precisely what are taught in universities. You are given a wide variety of sources and you must make a logical argument after weighing up competing views. I hope you see the irony in asking us to reject conventional history, yet accept your version.

I have repeatedly asked you to link me to what you know and yet again you do not.

You also have not replied to my questions in an earlier post. Please explain how Whitlam staged a Communist coup in 1973? I don't recall a workers uprising in 1973? How do the Catholic Priests control Communism today? Start with China. Cuba perhaps? Whitlam was a member of the Fabien society. You are the one who calls him a Communist. Are you trying to make a point or is it deliberately misleading?

The same class conflicts Marx/Engels wrote about are still apparent today, just more complex. While it can be argued that certain societies had aspects of Communism like shared ownership, Communism in it's modern form originated with Marx. "Religion is the opium of the people" Marx. I would be really interested how you tie modern communism with the catholic church (actually maybe I wouldn't).

Thanks for 'fessing up to who you are but you really should have done so in the first place. If I had seen the Larry Hannigan site and realised you had simply taken your history from there I wouldn't have wasted a great deal of time with this.

I don't know Kangativa, just admire his growing skills. I think it was someone else who asked you a question about him.

you repeatedly ask me to link you to someone elses opinion I have garnered my knowledge from.
I repeatedly told you this is my knowledge .
As far as source info I pointed you in the direction of some starting points.


"fess up"?
I wrote this here on the spur of the moment after reading the opinions in another thread about the guy who was making a cannabis tincture being arrested.
Because people seemed largely ignorant of their rights.

Larry then rewrote it, according to his world view and published it on his site.

I don't expect you to do anything Hardrain.

I'm not taking anything from you but giving it.

Who are you to me? Why do you feel so entitled to demand anything from me?
I think you'd be better served developing character, before embarking on freedom from your masters who won't let you grow pot.




I wont be casting more pearls before swine.
Anyone who gets busted,and has a little integrity and wants a hand in court. My email is on here.

 

[isaih520]

We are not sure why you asked us questions given we clearly said we would abide by your wish to leave. We therefore feel we should return given your implied consent to do so.


Listen isiah; you keep regurgitating the same tripe again and again expecting others to swallow it as though it were a feast for the senses.

You do NOT know ALL the freeman stuff, you do NOT know HOW to back your own words with evidence, you will NOT be able to help anyone with your methodology, you will only get them into deeper trouble.

People such as Kangativa do NOT strike me as small time operators such as yourself. People such as they are well organised; people like they do NOT ask others if they know where to grow guerrilla outdoors as you do; people like that would or may have real assets backing them, unlike yourself; people like that would or may have a lot to lose financially if they take YOUR stance in court, with or without you. Mackenzie's friend or mediator, anyone attempting to assist people in Kangativa's predicament using your belligerent stance meant only for those who ALREADY have NOTHING TO LOSE will in turn lose MORE than if they conditionally/restrictively cooperate with the Court.

You go in with someone like that and start your ranting as a Macka's friend, and they attempt to walk/storm out of the place with you, then they, if not both of you, will be set upon before you have a chance to take 3 paces, like a pit-bull sets itself upon a jack russell. Wake up man, stop deluding yourself and attempting to get others into far more serious trouble than they may already be in.

In such instance, and we have witnessed such instances in the past, after both of you were arrested and beaten to a pulp before making it half way out of the courtroom, the judge would IMMEDIATELY call for an EX PARTE hearing on the matter. ie, thanks to your brilliant ways, people such as Kangativa would then be placed in a position where they would NOT even be ALLOWED to be present or have any form of REPRESENTATION present during the ENTIRE trail.

And seeing as you know everything else, guess what the outcome would be? MAXIMUM sentence on all counts whatever they are, seizure of every bit of asset in their person's name, EVEN assets which they may have conveyed to any loved ones in the past YEARS... and we know of cases where they have EXCEEDED seizing everything dating back more than 5 years in what they call criminal matters, which in reality had no victim.

Hard rain,

We understand your views, they are legitimate and fair given what is being presented and claimed by this fool. He has not and it seems he will not provide any form of real proof or evidence to back up any controversy he's raised. He expects people such as yourself to take his word as LAW and LORE without question. We have asked he provide simply proof of 2 case numbers to matters he earlier claimed occurred, to which users here may unknowingly invoke the purported outcome of such cases when confronted by the law in an effort to protect themselves. We have searched all the respective Court records during the year he claimed it occurred, we spent a lot of time doing it, and when we search such records, we do it well, YET NOTHING was discovered to ever have occurred as he claimed it did.

So we now ask for the latter again, and we FURTHER ask he provide the CASE NUMBER/S of the cases which he CLAIMED to have made his stand in and obtained immunity from dope possession/cultivation/distribution or whatever else he claimed.

If he does not, then we know well who the troll truly is in this FORUM.

Careful now HardRain, he may end up calling you a troll too.

Put up isaih or you know what.

The only certain belligerence you have proven thus far is your attitude in this forum - full stop. All we have done is attempted to provide input herein, nothing more.

And if you again ask us to leave, then do not ask us questions as well.

You are really something man. Pity.

Gosh, you dropped the whole queer act.

And now seem to be your true self. which is remarkably Porcine.
Seem to know alot about alot of people for a new member to the site.

Are you a policeman ? Why don;t you come and arrest me you brave soul. I'm not hiding.
Is it because you can't?
Is it because youre a dog on a leash?
And i hold a gun to the head of the man holding your leash?

I'm bringing the noose of just defence buddy. Tell your piggy mates to expect me. And I have found plenty of protestants that dont like you people. And believe pissing on the law our granddfathers died protecting deserves the death penalty. No court needed.
We shall show you how clever it is to commit treason as a day job then go live in the suburbs amongst the very people youre fucking over. God willing.

Matthew 7:2 read it dickhead. I have .

 

[GeneralExecutor]

We shall speak now, and anyone feeling we are wrong in what we say, please correct us.

Your opinions, your death threats, are YOURS and YOURS ALONE. They do NOT reflect our opinions or intent or wishes, and as far as we are aware, they equally do NOT reflect anyone else's on this forum, which include the administrators hereto. And all that, we say in plain truth as we know and see it.

That being said, we have a few more things to add:

Gosh, you dropped the whole queer act.

We would not expect anything better from you than to confuse another's respect for their follow man as a queer act. We shall hereafter be as respectful to you as we can, but never queer.

Are you a policeman ? Why don;t you come and arrest me you brave soul. I'm not hiding.
Is it because you can't?
Is it because youre a dog on a leash?

WRONG on every count isiah; hardly that; hardly that. And if for one instant you think that the authorities cannot find out WHO it is that be posting anything on this or any other forum, then you are further deluding yourself. None of us here is hiding, weather we claim to be a person known outside of cyberspace or not. David H you say? Who on earth is David H? Is that how that person's name appears on their birth certificate? As "David H"? If not, then you are hiding from everyone who reads your posts - though not from the authorities.

We have read Matthew 7:2, but unlike you, "And i hold a gun to the head of the man holding your leash"; we understood it. Don't take a decision one has reached as a judgement, they are NOT one in the same. We have now reached our decision on your true nature isiah, you have taken enough of that "slack" for us to do it.

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. - Matthew 7:2

The proper meaning of Matthew 7:2 was NOT intended or directed at the victim of a heinous act, it is directed at the executor. Again; you fail to discern what is truly given, rather seeing what serves only your needs, as uncouth as they be. If "they" do wrong on all the people, then ONLY all the people as a collective have RIGHT to act against "them". You claiming a wrong against what you believe, does NOT make it a wrong perceived by the collective - you are NOT its mouthpiece.

"We shall show you how clever it is to commit treason as a day job then go live in the suburbs amongst the very people youre fucking over. God willing."

Firstly, God the Creator wills no such actions which you imply you will take. Again, here too, YOU isiah are NOT the mouthpiece of the one true God. Again isiah, STOP DELUDING YOURSELF. If you in any way fell or hear God telling you to take such action/s, then you are not only delusional but insane.

Your actions have proven that there is something in all this that you still have NOT grasped, so here's something you may wish to ponder on isaih:

The existence of the Pope, the Queen of England, Her heirs and successors, all policing authorities throughout the world and on earth (ie public and private), every person or man whom you so spite as to think you and whoever your claimed mate/s are, feel they have a right to destroy:

They are ALL CREATIONS of God the Almighty. They exist SOLELY by His supreme will and intent, and by NO OTHER. We, one GeneralExecutor say, "God bless them all", as we know He already has. We know they serve a higher purpose on this earth than the likes of YOU isiah are capable of thus far perceiving or comprehending. NOTHING exists anywhere except by His gracious will.

You still haven't provided any evidence as previously "mentioned" at first and then plainly asked twice. If you do not in the next day or so, then you have proven yourself to be a fake as your silence on this specific matter pertaining to proof of claim will be taken as your acquiescence.

Who on earth do you think you are claiming to have any form of RIGHT by implication to kill anyone in the name of MY Holy and sacred Father? Same on your isaih, shame on YOU!

What's more, who in the world do you think your are claiming that you were the first to use that line of defense in any court on earth? isiah, we knew all along that you were a fake, we played along with you to allow you enough slack to hang yourself. We could not believe your belligerent stance on that lie, we initially mentioned we did not belive it, then after your reaction to that, we toyed with you. Give us a break man; you are the first to use the word/term "knowingly" thereto? We may ask if in fact you take psychedelic substances, not just psycho-active? You have two more days of slack rope before the door to the truth beneath your feet suddenly opens for all on-readers to see the obvious.

Any words implying your dislikes of us, will be appreciated isaih, as we and you are polar OPPOSITES. So read and COMPREHEND the true meaning of James 1:22, which btw, excludes the words of the "LORD God" (who is the opposite of "Lord God" therein, it is ONLY Lord God's "word" which is intended in the following):

"But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves." - James 1:22

 

[High Country]

I'm going deer hunting...better than reading this rubbish.

 

[ConcentrateChaz]

Well i wish it was lawful around here on a federal level, that would be great!

 

[gaiusmarius]

interesting thread, shame it turned so hostile. seems to me it all started with a lack of proper understanding of the other motivation and actual words.

anyway lets talk about street stops. how would either of you respond to the recent habit of police to do stop and search on pedestrians. you have a being in front of you that is utterly convinced that he has the right to do as he pleases, from being belligerent to demanding to seethe contents of your bag or pockets. how do you deal with it from the moment they walk up.

 

[noyd666]

K POWWWWW. WOULD BE NICE, POLICE WORLD.

 

[isaih520]

in answer to
gaiusmarius

http://api.ning.com/files/pa1EQhLUM...10OjeQ/579431_486112951467783_948094260_n.jpg



put a copy of that in your wallet and hand it to the pig.
This applies in all commonwealth countries.
you could argue its merits in America if you claim state soverignty rather than us citizenship


if he persists anyhow you file a writ of quo warranto in the supreme court, if you have no qualms using defacto courts ($900 to file you add that to the costs / damages the pig has to pay you)

Doesn't matter if you have a dead body in your pocket, if he violates your rights to find it. The end doesnt justify the means in protestant law, that case is a larry hannigan find by the way.

(I upload image and it works fine until i save it,)

 

[offthehook]

I like Isaih's approach a lot, and I hope you to continue to write on these topics. Tyvm.

General Executers words, he should write on a toiletpaper roll, since there is nothing that actually works to gain from him.
GE should defo get a thread of his own so Isaih won't have to deal with him this much. Isaih unnecesary having to reply all the time to all of his rubbish makes my head spin already.

Please let Isah talk. I sense he's sitting on something we all should know about.

Freethinker stuff only got me in trouble in the past, been there done that. It works only to some extend, but if the powers that be want to crush you then they will.

I like Isaihs approach a lot, and I like to hear from him more than from all the bickering ppl in here.

@ Isaih, I hope you 're not discouraged to continue writing your stuff.

Some PPL in here are obviously trying to lead this thread into a downwards spiral. Wich is a shame.

 

[GeneralExecutor]

I like Isaih's approach a lot, and I hope you to continue to write on these topics. Tyvm.

General Executers words, he should write on a toiletpaper roll, since there is nothing that actually works to gain from him.

If you read our post on what happened in the Geelong Court, you'd realise that those involved are NO LONGER bothered by the police, which means they are not set upon and beaten up as isaih still is and always will be by the police. We mentioned what method they used, if you are unable to follow it up, study it, and apply it, then caveman mentality may reign in your neck of the woods too.


gaiusmarius,

We too are very disappointed, we cannot believe some people, and they refer to themselves as righteous.

As for your question, firstly, we do NOT provide legal advice, but if you read back at what we have written, and use some discernment and conceptualization (conceptualization is VITAL in law) with the information therein, you may “see” what may be done or what one needs to seek informationally so as to acquire the knowing of what needs to be done for relief or remedy to most any form of injustice or controversy one may experience in and at law. Remember, as already mentioned; to become competent at law takes an enormous amount of hours of study, and then more to apply proper administrative process and learn proper verbal/written skills to achieve their objectives. There is no simple solution, but there is a solution for the diligent and needy of such status. Unless you truly want it, you shall never receive it, and that applies to all walks of life, not just law.

Secondly, given what has unfolded thus far, and given some people feel they are experts at law simply because their entire foundation and balwark of legal defense is based on stating that they refuse to act in a manner which "they believe" may be deemed or defined as "treasonous" by "some others" (AND THAT'S ALL OF IT!), WITHOUT ALSO PROVIDING THE UNREBUTTABLE EVIDENCE TO SUCH PURPORTED FACT/CONTROVERCY THEY RAISED, and given such minds deem they have a RIGHT to kill who they deem part of “a problem they see”, and that, they hope God will support such action, then it would be extremely irresponsible and WRONG for us to be stating any more of what we know on matters of law solely from an informational perspective, given such mindsets may read it. After all, we are NOT members of the BAR and CANNOT provide any form of proper legal advice or opinion on matters of law, unlike some have who also are NOT BAR members.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, moreso when dealing with an unsound mind. Furthermore, there are MANY forums that deal with issues of law, the net abounds with them for those seeking such knowledge. We did not come here for that, we came here for matters that are dealt with in this forum.

We feel it unwise to post about these matters any further for reasons outlined, hope you understand.

 

[noyd666]

WELL SO FAR ITS WORKED FOR ONE PERSON, THE REST FINED OR JAILED, OR BOTH. SOMETHINGS WRONG,LOL.

 

[gaiusmarius]

the idea of the judge fleeing the court is gratifying even if nothing else, lol. i saw a youtube video of a court case in which the judge also ran off. the guy representing the summoned one was going the judge has abandoned ship, and more in that vain, it was quite bewildering. the bailiffs were totally lost on how to proceed as he never dismissed the court or called a recess, just ran off while the accused ones speaker was talking. need to dig up the link, was ages ago. was looking at some freeman stuff when i came across it. maybe it's linked in the freeman thread we had a couple of years back?

 

[b00m]

Cheers to gauis for the clean up
Thank You Brother

 

[noyd666]

YES IT IS VERY INTERESTING MY LEARNED FRIEND. I REALLY DON'T SEE IT DOING MOST OF US ANY GOOD, BUT I'M LEARNING.

 

[hard rain]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land
A quote from wiki (hate using wiki but it is at least more accurate than most of the info in this thread).

The Canadian case of Meads v Meads (2012 ABQB 571) comprehensively reviewed the freemen arguments from a legal standpoint.[9]

Dennis Larry Meads of Edmonton, Alberta, stormed out of a Court of Queen's Bench hearing on June 8, 2012, related to his divorce and matrimonial property case. In response, Associate Chief Justice John D. Rooke wrote a lengthy and comprehensive 185-page judgment rejecting various freemen claims, grouping them with other pseudolegal arguments as "Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Arguments" (OPCA), specifically, in this case, Meads' Freeman on the Land claims, arguments and documents,[10] saying that:

The bluntly idiotic substance of Mr. Mead’s argument explains the unnecessarily complicated manner in which it was presented. OPCA arguments are never sold to their customers as simple ideas, but instead are byzantine schemes which more closely resemble the plot of a dark fantasy novel than anything else. Latin maxims and powerful sounding language are often used. Documents are often ornamented with many strange marking and seals. Litigants engage in peculiar, ritual‑like in court conduct. All these features appear necessary for gurus to market OPCA schemes to their often desperate, ill‑informed, mentally disturbed, or legally abusive customers. This is crucial to understand the non-substance of any OPCA concept or strategy. The story and process of a OPCA scheme is not intended to impress or convince the Courts, but rather to impress the guru’s customer.[9]

EDIT: The above relates to freemen argument (GE's) not to what Isaih so much but the general gist probably relates.

There is a reason why most of this pseudo legal stuff has remained on the fringes for years. It is generally not taken seriously.

I am still waiting for Isaiah to answer the historical questions. If that is so inaccurate how can we believe the legal arguments? I don't mean to pick on Isaiah as GE's arguments are just as bad. This thread is full of misinformation and preaching.

I wonder how psychologically seductive it is for the cannabis community to think that there are ways around the law such as the ones expressed in this thread? It is the only reason I can think of as to why these sort of threads pop up so frequently on pot sites.

 

[gaiusmarius]

yeah i'd not try the freeman stuff in court. specially as i don't comprehend the rules in court. what does interest me is stopping cops on the street from doing their whole "routine" search thing. this doesn't need to involve legal advise, it can be presented as a hypothetical story.

the reason this is particular interesting to me is because where i live, cops always ask to search you, they don't order it, same when they want your id, when on foot they ask, in a car they demand the driving license. makes you wonder if they are doing so because they actually don't have the right to force you to empty your pockets for their inspection when on foot, unless they have probable cause.