High CBD strains, gotta have em!

[jamminman]

I also forgot that I scrutinized the size of the spots with the transparencies again and looks more like 7%CBD/ 4-4.5%THC on that ditchweed. It is worth ordering the dot measuring tool for each cannabinoid you want to measure too. That's how different they are, to me the dots for CBD and THC look about the same.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Yup, I am blown away!!
As it turns out the ditchweed with 6%CBD/ 5%THC is enough to make HUGE differences in the response of my tumors!! After just two glasses of juice, the whole area is all dark like a tan and hot with no numbness. it's like it's trying to push it out of me, already feels like it's getting smaller. Hell of a time for my camera to go out, I need to document this quick before it goes away! So, I am humbling myself and turning from the chastisement of those that call RSO "hemp" oil, so far it seems to work better than some higher THC oil I've used. I am also seeing a HUGE argument for breading with it now. I am definitely going to be running some more test on some both from the same area and others to see what's up on the ditchweed scene. Should have known by the amount of improvement I got isomerizing that stuff back in high school.

amazing! glad to hear the good results.

 

[CrazyKoala]

Can somebody prove or disprove RSC Garwahli has above 4% CBD? The marketing description on many strains mention CBD, but time and time again, this is proven wrong.

In all the times people I know have come across PP or Bubba, it has always been a pure THC varietal.

And hemp is rather useless. If it is 7% or 4% THC it is not hemp or colloquially ditchweed. There are legal aspects and practical aspects to why hemp has been specifically bred to have poor medicinal qualities. Trust me, I would know. You would have to take into account monoecious vs dioecious, flowering tendencies, other sex differences, total cannabinoid levels, lack of interesting terpenes, etc. Each thing you want to alter, you would have to try to fix step by step. For most, there is an easier way-- going to Resin, CBD Crew, Centennial, SOHUM, etc.

The big CBD spot is probably CBG if really ditchweed. A few people other than me have run that on plates and know you get a big CBG spot.

 

[Rinse]

Modern hemp feilds probably do have shit med qualities, but ditchweed that has been wild for a long time I think could have many chemotypes. As I understand it Ditchweed comes from old hemp that was not thouroughly selected?

 

[CrazyKoala]

Modern hemp feilds probably do have shit med qualities, but ditchweed that has been wild for a long time I think could have many chemotypes. As I understand it Ditchweed comes from old hemp that was not thouroughly selected?

Ahh... important distinction. Thanks for that clarification. I didn't waste time looking up ditchweed as I thought it informal language for hemp, but I didn't think wild uncultivated hemp varietals.

Where in North America do these wild non-commercial strains grow? Educate me.

 

[CrazyKoala]

But I still maintain that looking at hashplants or aiming for lesser-worked cannabis would be more fruitful than going for more wild hemp. I guess if you go to old enough hemp, we're talking old cannabis. But if the terpene theory is a huge part of how cannabis 'works' AND you have to consider monoeciousness AND you have to consider tall fiberous lanky plants, ..... you have to wonder, isn't there a starting point that is closer to what we already want to achieve?

In certain places in Canada and in America, there have been many unintended pollinations from 'ditchweed', and I've yet to hear any positive stories.

We DO hear about wild hemp pollen accidentally pollinating a cannabis strain, and the resulting offspring producing hay weed. We hear that story a lot. It would need a whole lot of work, undoubtedly.

 

[CrazyKoala]

To me, going to ruderalis or hemp is much more roundabout than starting with Cannatonic. And if genetic diversity is desired, how about the at least 6-7 strains that are high CBD that are thought to not come from Cannatonic. I really don't care to butt heads about this, but unless we're talking about intentionally broadening the gene pool via breeding everything from hemp to ruderalis to wallyducks, I don't see the purpose of doing more than we need to if CBD is the goal.

 

[CrazyKoala]

Here's an even easier way than crossing Harlequin or Cannatonic or whatever... get genetic material from a private breeder friend that knows what he's doing with CBD.

 

[Rinse]

Ahh... important distinction. Thanks for that clarification. I didn't waste time looking up ditchweed as I thought it informal language for hemp, but I didn't think wild uncultivated hemp varietals.

Where in North America do these wild non-commercial strains grow? Educate me.

I hear the ferel weed grows in Nebraska, Minnesota and a few other states.
I would rather start with traditional hashplants ie Lebanese, Moroccan, Afghan etc if looking for CBD, because as I undertand it they have a fuller spectrum of cannabinoids and terpenes and will consequently smell better taste better and stone better.

I hear too many bad reviews of cannatonic and especially harlequin, everyone says it tastes like hay. Get a real hashplant and find CBD pheno's thats the route I'd take.

 

[Green Supreme]

We have a fuelly, great tasting Cannatonic, so they are not all hay. The guy I got it from didn't like the taste so he crossed her with a lotta stuff. Tastes much different when we do it, than when he does for some reason. Peace GS

 

[Chillb]

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[floralheart]

Garwhali Jungli,
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Himalyan Landrace very high CBD, almost no THC (very wild pheno)

Not my cup of tea at all however friends who suffer a little from depression, anxiety, panic attacks, etc found the smoke to be perfect for them.

The cool calm serene body high relaxed them and seemed to produce a great feeling for them but with none of the THC static or rush.

They could then smoke stronger strains that would usually have them whiteying but instead the jungli seems to provide a safe platform for them to journey from.

I didn't dig it either. A friend grew some Himalyan.

Everyone has their landrace phase, lol. Not teasing, just feeling good.

 

[G.O. Joe]

I'd like to add that wild hemp is growing near most railroads in the wheat state of Kansas, travelled through and explored that state in my fishing adventures a lot when I was younger. Wish I held onto the seeds I collected back then, but I am sure the plants are still thriving ...

Some railroads have become more aggressive with ditchweed, with large equipment tearing out even the most wooded and elevated surroundings, leaving behind little more than matchsticks and hundreds of empty little blue plastic unmarked water bottles. When this happened here 15 years ago, the few survivors became unbelievably afflicted with insects and everything else. Mile-long stands that you thought could never be wiped out were completely eradicated. Steep hills below rails are the safest refuge for now.

I hear the ferel weed grows in Nebraska, Minnesota and a few other states.
I would rather start with traditional hashplants ie Lebanese, Moroccan, Afghan etc if looking for CBD, because as I undertand it they have a fuller spectrum of cannabinoids and terpenes and will consequently smell better taste better and stone better.

Having access to seeds or plants from authentic traditional hash strains would be great. For some people, it's easier to search the ditchweed for unique and desirable plants. Each plant can be cloned and tested easily (white rum works) with Beam response. On the other hand, my heaviest female Hash Plant was THC-free - and people say #fucksensi when this happens - but the truth is this plant was like the rest otherwise (fast, short, nice dense colas) and also the decarboxylated harvest gives a strong Beam reaction. I have no lab to send this to here, but I'm confident it would test well even though it didn't do shit for my sciatica. I have a feeling that others in the pack (decent THC) would have indicated CBD if I'd tested for it. HINT

 

[Chillb]

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[TerpeneDream]

I think you guys are really on to something with the wild cannabis. I would definitely choose mother natures cure over a bred-in-the-lab variety.

So, are there any seed banks offering any of these indigenous high cbd strains?

I know Greenworkz in Colorado offers a strain they call C4...supposedly at 17% cbd and 1% thc. Has anyone tried it? It would only be a temporary solution until I could find a landrace...

 

[CrazyKoala]

Pooly grown HQ is green even after drying and cure.

I thought it was an unworthy strain, but SWNM has a verified, test cut from the creator, and it is anything but 'flat'. Everyone has different terpene experiences but it is big, greasy, the long leaves are frosty, and there is a hazelnut coffee sort of smell.

I suspect because HOD has been very very generous with the cut that there have been mediocre growers who have gotten $10 cuts at clubs growing and selling their surplus to undiscriminating clubs. I say this because the size of HQ buds at clubs are disappointingly small, and the frost looks nothing like what the plant is capable of.

 

[CrazyKoala]

Resin Cannatonic is a quality plant. Big plant, lemony scent but again, maybe other people have different experiences. I have nothing but good things to say about the plant.

 

[CrazyKoala]

I hear the ferel weed grows in Nebraska, Minnesota and a few other states.
I would rather start with traditional hashplants ie Lebanese, Moroccan, Afghan etc if looking for CBD, because as I undertand it they have a fuller spectrum of cannabinoids and terpenes and will consequently smell better taste better and stone better.

I hear too many bad reviews of cannatonic and especially harlequin, everyone says it tastes like hay. Get a real hashplant and find CBD pheno's thats the route I'd take.

HQ is also arguably a hashplant IMO. But what do I know.

 

[CrazyKoala]

Some railroads have become more aggressive with ditchweed, with large equipment tearing out even the most wooded and elevated surroundings, leaving behind little more than matchsticks and hundreds of empty little blue plastic unmarked water bottles. When this happened here 15 years ago, the few survivors became unbelievably afflicted with insects and everything else. Mile-long stands that you thought could never be wiped out were completely eradicated. Steep hills below rails are the safest refuge for now. Having access to seeds or plants from authentic traditional hash strains would be great. For some people, it's easier to search the ditchweed for unique and desirable plants. Each plant can be cloned and tested easily (white rum works) with Beam response. On the other hand, my heaviest female Hash Plant was THC-free - and people say #fucksensi when this happens - but the truth is this plant was like the rest otherwise (fast, short, nice dense colas) and also the decarboxylated harvest gives a strong Beam reaction. I have no lab to send this to here, but I'm confident it would test well even though it didn't do shit for my sciatica. I have a feeling that others in the pack (decent THC) would have indicated CBD if I'd tested for it. HINT

Theory is one thing, practice another. Have you run DL tests or TLC plates or Beam's tests on ditchweed and bred it? For most it will be heartbreak. I'm saving people time and people are philosophizing.

Try it and post back please.

I'm going to trust multiple different independent angles that suggest ditchweed is bad news from GW's paper related to Locus O, to qualitative description and first hand knowledge of the fibery flat properties of hemp. It is good for clothing.

I hate to see otherwise well wishing providers or caretakers and even hobbyists from spending a year or more messing around with fabric genetics. If you're smart and want to prove me wrong, give me some hard scientific data and results. Otherwise we're just talking in circles.

 

[CrazyKoala]

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