Zamaldelica grow outdoors, 44* N

[sallyforthDeleted member 75382]

Geeeeezzzz great thread. Healthy looking, nice and branchy. Going to have a lot of trippy flowers.

Man the size of that trunk in the last pic.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[ThaiBliss]

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A few more photos of Z#4:
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Wow!

 

[blan-k-flor]

Good job my friend!!

 

[Adze]

What a wonderfully vigorous looking plant! Great job to both yoss33 and Ace.

 

[RandyCalifornia]

very beautiful and inspirational Yoss.

 

[yoss33]

Thanks for the compliments, people!
Here's the weekly update.

Z#2, the first photo showing what it looked like before watering it. It will hardly survive the droughts without help. The next 2 photos were taken an hour after watering it. The plant looks pretty healthy nutrient-wise, its plot is covered with rotting plums from the tree next to it. Hope it likes lots of sugars

 

[yoss33]

And Z#4, in the morning sun:

 

[yoss33]

I removed a lot of inner small branches that would get less and less light with the plant becoming bigger and denser.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Z#2, the first photo showing what it looked like before watering it. It will hardly survive the droughts without help. The next 2 photos were taken an hour after watering it. The plant looks pretty healthy nutrient-wise, its plot is covered with rotting plums from the tree next to it. Hope it likes lots of sugars
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Yoss33,

I'm glad you got to your Z#2 before it expired from the drought. I have experienced and heard many stories where the less pampered plants often produce the best quality and potency. I think you may get a nice smoke from that Z#2. The leaf shape also looks less like Malawi or Thai, perhaps making it a Zamal leaning one.

Any signs of buds starting to form up? I know you mentioned that you hope they don't until after the local wild hemp is done, and I hope that it is the case so you have a successful harvest. I'm close to your latitude, and this is the time that buds form on outdoor plants for us in this area. I think your climate must be moderated by a warm sea. Ours is moderated by the Pacific ocean a bit, but the Pacific is cold water here as the currents come down from Alaska. It starts to get dicey here after the first week of October, from frost or rains. We need greenhouses to get to November.

All the Best,

ThaiBliss

 

[orfeas]

Z#2 looks somewhat dilapidated in one picture and robust/gorgeous in another.
A slip of the finger, I may suppose?

 

[yoss33]

I confess I'm not taking too much care of Z#2. But I want it looking wild for security reasons. Unfortunately, it looks less and less like the wild hemp around with these dark fat leaves its bringing out.

Yoss33,
...Any signs of buds starting to form up? I know you mentioned that you hope they don't until after the local wild hemp is done, and I hope that it is the case so you have a successful harvest. I'm close to your latitude, and this is the time that buds form on outdoor plants for us in this area. I think your climate must be moderated by a warm sea. Ours is moderated by the Pacific ocean a bit, but the Pacific is cold water here as the currents come down from Alaska. It starts to get dicey here after the first week of October, from frost or rains. We need greenhouses to get to November.

All the Best,

ThaiBliss

We are lucky (in terms of growing cannabis) to not have an ocean close by. The biggest sea around is the Mediterranean one, but its 700 kilometers away behind a mountain range. So the rains we get during the summer and early autumn are usually few - they fall in the mountains and nothing is left for us. We get the really bad weather when the winds start blowing from the North in November/December. First frosts are usually in the second half of November.
I guess the indica hybrids have already started blooming here, the sativa-dominant hybrids usually start in the second half of August and the equatorial sativas start forming buds in the beginning of September.
Can't wait for the Zamaldelicas to start flowering Now, only Z#5 is (semi-)flowering. The rest of them don't have any signs of starting to flower yet.

 

[dubi]

All our strains have been fully tested outdoors in a mediterranean climate very similar to yours. Summer is very hot , almost tropical with very few rains, and autum is warm/mild with irregular rains that can be quite strong, fortunatly there's never frost or snow here so even the most tropical sativas can be finished with quite interesting results.

 

[Biosynthesis]

Ive been following this thread and like the crazy sativa genetics. What I wish is to grow some here in the states. 43 north here. Have the pacific ocean close and it gets wet and cold when these sativas are getting it on. If things arent finished up by the middle of october you need greenhouses. Anyway whatching close to see if it may be done here w/o greenhouse.

Opinions are welcome please?

 

[MostlyMe]

Ive been following this thread and like the crazy sativa genetics. What I wish is to grow some here in the states. 43 north here. Have the pacific ocean close and it gets wet and cold when these sativas are getting it on. If things arent finished up by the middle of october you need greenhouses. Anyway whatching close to see if it may be done here w/o greenhouse.

Opinions are welcome please?

52 N north here, my Zamaldelica wouldn't stand a chance outdoors, so I am inducing flowering artificially and will try to finish her indoors when it gets cold and wet outside.

 

[sativa_lover]

Zamaldelica Regular vs. Zamaldelica FEM Outdoors?

Zamaldelica Regular vs. Zamaldelica FEM Outdoors?

Hi Dubi. I was curious as to which Zamaldelica (Regular or FEM) would finish outdoors earlier.
Zamaldelica Regular being Zamal x Malawi/Thai
Zamaldelica FEM being Zamal x Malawi

Does the Thai in the Regular version bring down the flowering time at all?
Or do they both finish outdoors around the same time?


btw Dubi I believe the description of Zamaldelica FEM on seed boutique is describing the regular verision not the fem.
Here: https://www.seedboutique.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1404

 

[yoss33]

Hello there, people!

I missed a weekend update because of being on vacation, but after that I spent 2 days in the garden, nothing better than relaxing among the veggies and trees
Z#4 and Z#2 seem to be entering flower mode, their tops have that different pose, I guess withing a week or 2 they'll start flowering.
However, there's something very strange (but good!) happening with all Zamaldelicas except for Z#5 on my friend's balcony - they all don't get pollinated by the wild hemp around. This is the first time I see this, as if the hemp pollen is incompatible with the Zamaldelicas. They have hundreds of pre-flowers, and not a single pre-flower has a seed forming/formed. Only Z#5 is pollinated, quite massively at that, which is normal considering the wet season and the 2-meter-tall males spreading pollen in the area. Or maybe Zamaldelica's pre-flowers are sterile? Will see soon when the true flowering starts.

Z#2, found it again drop-dead, seems like that patch of soil there dries fast. Anyways, it looks very happy when watered:

 

[yoss33]

Z#4, which finally has its branches' tops curving upwards. Up to now the tough branches (they knock like wood when hit) grew only running sideways away from the main stem.

I spent perhaps about 3 hours in cutting small inner branches that don't receive light. Zamaldelica seems to take pruning easy - when I cut a branch, immediately 2 sprouts below the cut start growing, no time spent in confusion. Good for growing techniques that involve a lot of pruning.

Here's the plant, after the pruning:

and from its "slimmer" side, heh:

The plant looks respective en face:

And the base:

 

[yoss33]

Vegetation galore:

 

[yoss33]

Tops:

And here are a couple of shots of the paler parts of the plant (first one is of the top of the plant). I thought that it might be over-watering, but after some observations, I conclude that the parts of the plant that receive the most hours of direct sunlight are the most pale. They grow as healthy, just are of paler color, slightly droopy and with purplish stems. The heats might contribute to this - we've been having only hot weather with very low humidity the last few weeks.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Tops:

What a glorious bushy monster. It does look like it is on the cusp of flowering. I love the shot of the leaf above. The serrations and skinny leaves show it's Thai lineage. I think it is likely that Thai genetics other than Meao Thai are also involved in its history. Perhaps Thai weed originated in India. I believe that East Indians are responsible for most of the spread of cannabis across the world. I may be culturally biased because of my proximity to the descendants of East Indian laborers that came to the Caribbean and the rest of the Americas, but I believe their people and culture spread a lot to Africa also.

Interesting observations on the paler portions of the plant. I have read that Malawi buds can turn golden when most exposed to the elements, such as intense sunlight.

Anyway, I over think and speculate on everything. The bottom line is that you have a beautiful looking strain, and it appears that you have done a great job with it. It is an octo-bushy plant, with its myriad arms, just like some of the pure Zamal pictures posted by Dubi. I am so glad I picked up several packs of these seeds from ACE.

Good luck with the finish, and I hope the smoke turns out as good or even better than the beautiful Haze plant that you grew. You skills are admirable.

ThaiBliss