Plummeting Marijuana Prices for Growers

[minds_I]

..... not because it has the best environment for growing.

Hello all,

Huh?

minds_I

 

[BigSteve]

So I guess here in Spokane we grow the best outdoor?

Sweet!

 

[Chamba]

I don't really agree, most young people have never smoked such weed. What is now available as sativa is hybrid at best.

The high from the current typical sativa hybrid is about the same as a tropical grown (African, Indian or Asian) sativa as a 1.8 liter Hyundai coupe is the same as a Formula One racing car...or as a see-saw is to a roller coaster, they are all "rides", but there's a huge difference.

the high from a well grown tropical sativas is like the very first time you made love, the average faux sativa high is like getting a handjob in a dark alley from an ugly girl with callouses.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

^man I hope you are right about people wanting tropical sativa, but it is not what I am experiencing. If real Hawaiian sativa grown in the islands was available to me it is all I would smoke for recreation!!! I would still use cbd heavy indica for meds

What I have noticed is that most markets only want dense indica, They are uneducated and only care about bag appeal to other uneducated people. fox tails scare them. They judge it before they smoke it. Honestly there is nothing better than a super trippy Hawaiian sativa to me.

As far as quality, Every time you go up an echelon in production you go down one in quality. After seeing a lot bud, and doing a lot of research I have found 30 lights is the sweet spot for indoor. That is as about as high as you can go and produce AAA, and get all the work done by yourself with just a few good trimmers. I have seen a lot of auto trim vs. hand trimmed bud and can tell you auto trimming fucks up the quality on a lot of herbs.

 

[ubi]

all i know is there are beer drinkers........or should i say schwag lite drinkers.
and then there's the micro brew drinkers.
one doesnt care about flavor the other does.

cost: six pack of tappin the rockies 5
six pack of somthing fu^king amazing 9.

or

i can go to xxx dispensary and get some OKAY not good. for 125oz
or i can go to xxx AWESOME dispensary and pay 200 for something that comes close to what i grow.

there will always be niche bud.
whether its super sativa or couch lock indica.
u get what u pay for. if you know quality.

big corporate bud will be just like u expect. grown and processed as cheaply as possible.

where u spend your money
......................... is up to you.

 

[anonymousgrow]

where u spend your money
......................... is up to you.

Agreed, but I think what will dictate the market is what the masses spend their money on. Mareketing will be king in this emerging industry where very few have a real understanding of the plant.

If a 500million dollar ad campaign says that Sativa's are the new kid on the block recreationally and that we have all been heavily sedated on indica's all this time and it's time to change, I am sure that the pop songs would be about haze instead of kush. Who cares if it true if that what people are being told; a lot of them buy into it.

 

[jimboyia]

people will generally believe what they want to believe often against plenty of good evidence that reality can be contrary. This is how the Marketing wonks manage your ego for returns.

 

[subZ-ro]

Did anybody see the CNN special last night where they went to U of Miss and looked at the shit they were testing. It was pure leaf material they claimed was 8% THC, then they had some shitty looking outdoor, in actual nug form, they claimed was 36% or some bullshit.

At best, if the government ever did allow full on legalization and sales, they would be selling pre-rolls that were more in the 5% range. at best....

 

[Crooked8]

5% is too low. Im thinking more like 15%

 

[Brain]

Brain, my sense is that people in Humboldt began using greenies for two reasons, and neither is that greenhouses produce better herb: 1) security against aerial detection; 2) protection from damp coastal fall weather.

While you may be able to make an argument that ghs can produce better herb, I don't think the hills of Humboldt will be where much legal herb is produced. People went there to grow because it's remote and has convoluted topography, not because it has the best environment for growing.

Places that might be consistently good for growing in the West include Eastern Washington and parts of the foothills east of the Sacramento Valley: lots of sunshine, pretty dry. There, outdoor growing can be done without major investments in climate control.

I pretty much agree with you on all fronts but my points still hold. The Sierra foothills wil be the bread basket. 4 pulls a year and only have to blackout 2 of them. The greenhouse herb coming down almost year round won't leave the full sun growers much time to unload. Also besides being protected by the elements the gh plants will be smaller in general further increasing quality towards indoor. The only reason we grow monsters now is too keep our numbers down.

 

[ubi]

Agreed, but I think what will dictate the market is what the masses spend their money on. Mareketing will be king in this emerging industry where very few have a real understanding of the plant.

If a 500million dollar ad campaign says that Sativa's are the new kid on the block recreationally and that we have all been heavily sedated on indica's all this time and it's time to change, I am sure that the pop songs would be about haze instead of kush. Who cares if it true if that what people are being told; a lot of them buy into it.

true, marketing can have its effects. i just like variety.
and being as nice heavy paki or mt. kushes dont yield for shit.. of course the market could say yea for sativa's(esp. imports from the sub-tropical regions..and being from fla. i know outdoor sativa!!! ##'s in da swamp)

but who knows. maybe i've never had a truly amazing sativa.

 

[Veg N Out]

I know if it goes legal I will sell my property in the Triangle and head for the Sierras.

The Sierra foot hills are going to be the epicenter of major quality production. Extra month on the spring and fall , same dry heat and good elevation.

 

[mapinguari]

Look for the valleys in the foothills, where you have flat land and alluvial deposits to boot. That way you can lay it out like a real ag operation and mechanize stuff if you want.

 

[anonymousgrow]

AS it becomes more and more legal it doesnt seem to be affecting the price disparity from west to east. Perhaps if legalization happens maybe we should be looking for good growing land on the eastern seaboard, but i love cali too much. .

 

[Yes4Prop215]

veg why wait!! come down and join us in the foothills...

 

[Brain]

^I can't speak for Veg but the political climate is better where we're at and for now that matters more for me. I also love the beauty and people in certain parts of the Triangle and that makes living here a blast for me.

 

[Firebrand]

2500 a lb wholesale for indoor or out, green, decent genetics, rushed to market, no cure, available most all the time, Syracuse, NY, and surrounding areas.

 

[theJointedOne]

IMHO the best mix would be the history and character and stewardship that many in the triangle have mixed with the sierra environment. Water is abundant where I live in the sierras, Over here in the triangle most folks are drying up creeks everyday

 

[mapinguari]

^^ water access is one of the best reasons the Triangle is looking at a tough future in cannabis production, while the foothills are looking promising.

 

[Brain]

^ It all depends on where you,re at. Plenty of spots with springs that don't quit and wells that don't slow down. People that bought cheap land aren't going to have a future in those spots unless they bought it cheap in the 70's.