Simple bottled organics regimin

[SmokeDaima]

I've been looking into organic growing using a complete organic feed regimen from a few different companies. I like advanced nutrients earth juice, but its got too many additives. I'm trying to find a company who makes a complete organic line without so many additives. I have tried General organics in the past, but want to switch to something better.

 

[Granger2]

In coco, pH being important, EJ can give great results, but is a pain in ass to get dialed. BioBizz with good Ca and Magnesium supplements is easy to use, and not very many bottles. Good luck. -granger

 

[marbles]

Bio Bizz, Roots Organics, Sunleaves Guanos, and General Organics all give great results.

A recipe that is easy and effective

Bio Thrive Grow
Bio Thrive Bloom
CaMg+
Bio Bud

In addition you could round out the rest of that nute line with bio weed, bio root, diamond black, and if you are in a well ventilated area, the bio marine.

You can also achieve results using Roots Organics

Buddha Grow
Buddha Bloom
Trinity Catalyst
Surge
A little HPK 4-6 week

Bio Bizz as mentioned before is also good.

Some unsulfured blackstrap molasses is good during your bloom stage also.

Simple recipes like that will give you good results but you can achieve a much higher quality and larger yield if you close the gaps and feed a full line or make your own teas etc.

 

[Jhhnn]

Solid results are easy starting with Roots organics soil, some compost & Oregonism mycorrhizae, dash of Azomite, using trinity throughout. With rich soil to start with, you only need add buddha bloom in flower, maybe some extreme serene. If you want to veg them large, use buddha grow, but it's not necessary when going to 12/12 at 4-5 weeks old, 12-14" tall. The soil already contains everything you need to get there. That's with tap water of moderate hardness.

Half to 2/3 strength every other watering on all of it works fine, avoids burning.

They offer a free booklet with a more elaborate way of doing things, but you really don't need to go there.

 

[habeeb]

I think you mean iguana juice?

there's as many or little bottles as you want with AN. not sure I can say I've seen anyone run it in coco, but I've seen organics run in coco..


not sure there's any "completely organic" bottled nutes out there. AN is bringing out iguana juice with completely organic macros. maybe there is, but I haven't gone in depth to see.


any problem your going to run into is ca/mg.. that is assuming if your running organic your running R/O .

 

[Granger2]

I would follow the feed charts on GO [sez double the BioThrive Bloom] and BioBizz Grow and Bloom are a beet molasses base. I'd follow their chart, but be ready with the Ca and Mg supplements. Good luck. -granger

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Look into Nectar for the Gods.


I'm not into mixing daily and hand-watering, but I have several friends who have switched to their line and loving it. They are finally bringing awesome quality to the table when normally their results were nothing to write home about in my opinion.

They have more products, but most of my mates just run their "Simple 4" which is

Zeus Juice (humic acid)
Gaia Mania (Soybean extract, feather meal, bone meal, worm castings, leonardite, and Kelp extract (Ascophyllum nodosum)
Medusas Magic (Soybean extract, feather meal, bone meal, worm castings, potassium phosphate, magnesium sulfate, potassium sulfate and calcium nitrate)
Herculean Harvest (Ca, P)

A few are using their sugar product too which I believe is Aphrodites extraction. If you really wanted to limit it down I'd imagine you'd get good results merely using the Gaia Mania + Herculean Harvest. Gaia was designed to be a 1-part stand alone nute, and then the Herculean is just your bloom bulk additive.


www.oregonsonly.com is their website. I don't normally promote one nute over the next, but just from what I've gathered from my normal "brown thumb" friends, this line is something special.

 

[SmokeDaima]

First off, thanks for all the suggestions.

Granger- I've checked the biobizz website, its on my list of possibilities.

Marbles- I have tried the general organics line about a year ago, its ok but I'm looking to try something different. I only got a starter trial pack but it went very quickly. Its like 2-4 teaspoons per gallon. I'm using roots organics coco, so roots organics are on my list of to try also.

Habeeb- Yea I meant iguana juice. I will be supplementing with cal-mag every feeding, that shouldn't be a prob. I supplement with an organic cal-mag most feeding as of now anyways. I would try iguana juice, but I'm currently using AN micro grow and bloom with all the additives and I really hate mixing and keeping all the bottles around.

Flowerfarmer- I just looked into that, if they made less products I would probably give it a try. If I go with a nutrient line, I'm going to use the whole line up. Its got 11 bottles total for the pro level. More than advanced.

 

[SmokeDaima]

Thinking about running the General Organics line again with all the additives. Will I be able to get big dense nugs from it? I will be supplementing with great white, azos, mykos, and whatever bennies I have. I've used it before but it was only in veg.

 

[Granger2]

I'm using it right now in veg. I'm impressed. Reports I've read are that it needs more PK in bloom. I don't know if people who say that are following the fine print of the feed chart that says to double the Bloom for heavy feeding plants.

I won't be a good source of info from here on, since I'm going to go mostly with a combo of Earth Juice and ACT's in bloom. Earth Juice is a great line that produces great bud heavily, but is seriously finicky to get dialed in in coco because of pH problems. Good luck. -granger

 

[indianajones]

I used GO with all the additives and I liked the results. I ran a 3 way test with our agent orange cutting- GH (h3ad formula), GO full line, and organically amended coco that was only given RO water the duration of flowering (amended with -EWC, espoma bio tone starter +, alfalfa, kelp, rock phosphate, greensand, oyster shell, flax seed meal, sweetened coconut meat from the baking isle in the grocery).

The GH and GO plants resembled each other to a T in growth structure and flowering.

The GH and GO plants were more stretchy, while the amended coco plants stayed squat. GO and amended coco smoked the smoothest, and burned with completely white ashes in the bowl.

I do recommend adjusting the pH of your nutrient solutions if you are using GO though. It says on the bottle that you don't have to adjust the pH, but I disagree. Maybe if you were using a buffered soil then don't adjust; but with coco, which lacks buffering if used by itself, buffering is needed.

 

[Granger2]

Yeah the Earth Juice staff make that claim also, and in my experience, that's laughable. I mix at or close to their chart, in my 8.3-8.5 pH, high alkalinity tap and the mix will have about a 4.3 or 4.4 pH. I will only apply something that acidic to my plants once in awhile.

At first I took EJ at their word about it, but soon the plants started showing multiple lockouts/deficiencies. I have it dialed in now after much trial and error.

I think when the mfgrs come out with that "don't worry about pH" business, they should be ignored. Does not apply to coco. If I were in soil, I would manage the pH too because low 4's is just too low. Good luck. -granger

 

[SmokeDaima]

I just looked into blue mountain ganics. Anyone thoughts on it? Its very simple.

 

[marbles]

Thinking about running the General Organics line again with all the additives. Will I be able to get big dense nugs from it? I will be supplementing with great white, azos, mykos, and whatever bennies I have. I've used it before but it was only in veg.

You can achieve great results and tight flowers if you use just everything in that line.

The only thing that GO line is missing is a bloom booster and a carbohydrate source.

I've known someone to use Big Swell from Aurora on top of the bio thrive bloom and get pretty good results.

Personally I would use an unsulfured molasses and high pk guano instead of the Big Swell to really get everything in at the rates I'd want.

Regardless I've run it just by it self, nothing else, including the diamond black and bio marine in soil and it did great. Hard flowers, maybe a few point percentage less difference on yield. Nothing majorly noticeable. Super clean after a one week flush.

 

[Granger2]

GO puts sugars in their products. CalMag+ has it and I think BioThrive Grow and Bloom. I use more though. -granger