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U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

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MJOFMJ420

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YUP BETTER BELIEVE IT
THEY ARE WATCHING US AS WE WRITE ABOUT THEM LOL

WE THE PEOPLE ARE BLIND TO SO MUCH THAT IS REALLY GOING ON

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, AND THATS WHY THEY DONT TELL US SH*T
 

RetroGrow

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Snowden is one of the greatest heroes in American history. McCain, formerly thought of as a hero, is now a traitor. I believe he is senile and suffering from dementia. Obama is just a stone cold liar and traitor, who should be impeached for all of his crimes and constitutional violations.
The world is upside down. Russia is now the "good guy", and America is no longer America. I don't believe there is a politician alive who can fix this mess.
 

MJOFMJ420

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WE ARE NOT THE LAND OF THE FREE.. WE ARE UNDER TOTAL CONTROL
THEY THREW THAT LINE IN THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER AND HAVE US SING IT EVERY DAY FROM AN EARLY AGE TO BRAIN WASH US
BUT NOTICE AS YOU GET OLDER YOU FIND OUT THE TRUTH
 

Red Fang

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yeah you are stating the obvious and preaching to the choir and all that, but I am sick of just talking as I am sure are you, so what do we do about it?
 

floralheart

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i want to come to clear non violent conclusions on how on solve our problem.if im wrong then fine nothing will happen.but the evidence does not point to that.


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Learn witchcraft, teach your children like Spartans and get back to me.
 

MJOFMJ420

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BRO THEIR IS NOTHING TO DO UNLESS U ARE A BIG WIG POLITICIAN AND EVEN THEN YOU WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING YOUR POINT ACROSS
THEY KILLED KENNEDY ON LIVE TV IMAGINE WHAT THEY WILL DO TO US

OBAMAS A PUPPET THEY JUST USED HIS SKIN COLOR TO GET US AMERICANS BACK ON THE BAN WAGON AND EXCITED ABOUT POLITICS AND HOPEFUL OF AN UPCOMING CHANGE AFTER THE BUSH ERA AND 9/11 FACTS BROUGHT TO THE LIGHT A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT. ALOT OF AMERICANS OPPOSED THE GOVERNMENT AFTER BUSH ERA

AND IN A CLEAVER ATTEMPT TO BRING AMERICANS BACK ON THEIR SIDE THEY GAVE OBAMA THE IMAGE OF A FIRST BLACK SUPER HERO GOVERNMENT FIGHTING CANDIDATE. AND AFTER ALL THESE YEARS WE ARE NOW STARTING TO JUMP OFF THE BAN WAGON ONCE AGAIN.
IDK HIM PERSONALLY SO I CANT SAY WHAT HIS INTENTIONS ARE BUT I FOR SURE KNOW HE IS A PUPPET AND DOESNT WANNA END UP LIKE KENNEDY SO HE DOES AND SAYS WHAT IS TOLD TO HIM
 

Red Fang

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I don't know man, we can't revolt or they would condemn us as traitors and crush us intantly like ants the victim of a fat bully's foot, and we can't continue to just speculate and contemplate behind the scenes, we need to do something so what do we do? to let it go on like this is intolerable. But to be snuffed out without any real hope of accomplishment is also. Obama I supported and then was profoundly dissappointed by, still better than the alternative puppets but still bad nontheless. I think he wants to do good, but surprisingly after winning a 2nd term, is still to timid and easily manipulated to do so. I feel sorry for him in a way, but regardless we got to figure a way out of this quagmire!
 

Jericho Mile

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I don't know man, we can't revolt or they would condemn us as traitors and crush us intantly like ants the victim of a fat bully's foot, and we can't continue to just speculate and contemplate behind the scenes, we need to do something so what do we do? to let it go on like this is intolerable. But to be snuffed out without any real hope of accomplishment is also. Obama I supported and then was profoundly dissappointed by, still better than the alternative puppets but still bad nontheless. I think he wants to do good, but surprisingly after winning a 2nd term, is still to timid and easily manipulated to do so. I feel sorry for him in a way, but regardless we got to figure a way out of this quagmire!

It's far from intolerable dude. It's only intolerable on the internet.

You'd think everyone on here...is living in poverty...starving...and handcuffed in their cells. But...they are not.

Maybe a passport....and a little bit of traveling...would open eyes to just how good...it is...to live in plushness. Maybe then...there could be some appreciation. I'm sure there are funds...for vacations.

I don't know where all these malcontents live...but I have a feeling...they are over fed..and out of shape..from all the amenities.
 

headband 707

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That would depend on what you think is great living.. For example you might think from all our advertising that we are a great place to live etc. free healthcare great place all around lol.. NO ,NO ,NO, .... Whenever I go traveling I have a far better time, and the Gov is not all over you the way it is here. Here you have a camera on you 24/7 .. It feels great to travel with no camera's watching you .. So it depends on what you think prison is... I think being watched/listened to all the time is like a prison. I also see lots and lots of Canadians living in major poverty and no one is helping them. stay frosty headband 707:)


It's far from intolerable dude. It's only intolerable on the internet.

You'd think everyone on here...is living in poverty...starving...and handcuffed in their cells. But...they are not.

Maybe a passport....and a little bit of traveling...would open eyes to just how good...it is...to live in plushness. Maybe then...there could be some appreciation. I'm sure there are funds...for vacations.

I don't know where all these malcontents live...but I have a feeling...they are over fed..and out of shape..from all the amenities.
 

Hydrosun

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no we should not!
we are not supposed to be the world's police.

Unless there are oil / big corporate interests to protect or promote. Then we are supposed to fuck over any country, person, or treaty and do our owners bidding.

Not the world police, but rather the World Protection Racket. Oh and if we like your stuff too much, we'll take it from you for your own good :tiphat:

:joint:
 

Jericho Mile

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That would depend on what you think is great living.. For example you might think from all our advertising that we are a great place to live etc. free healthcare great place all around lol.. NO ,NO ,NO, .... Whenever I go traveling I have a far better time, and the Gov is not all over you the way it is here. Here you have a camera on you 24/7 .. It feels great to travel with no camera's watching you .. So it depends on what you think prison is... I think being watched/listened to all the time is like a prison. I also see lots and lots of Canadians living in major poverty and no one is helping them. stay frosty headband 707:)

Free health care? What?

Of course you have a better time traveling....you are most likely on vacation...and traveling to desirable locations. Might be different..if you were a citizen of that country. I love Mexico...feel pretty much...like I can do whatever I want there...but that's not the whole picture. I can do that...because I come from a wealthy country..and have money. The average Mexican citizen is not feeling that way.

If you are worried about cameras watching you...friend...welcome to the technology of the 21st century....it works both ways...frees and confines. I don't worry about being watched or listened to....not much you are going to do...to stop that. You want your cake...and eat it to

well don't we all...but that's not ever going to happen. Get over it...move on...accept that you have to give to get


I live on the california/mexico border...and it is sometimes...like a no fly zone. All your creepy agencies down here...snooping and pooping....just like the citizens of 'merica want. The land of drones...agents in the bushes...and all the evil propaganda. Is it ever going to go away? No. You can flip border patrol off...wave your dick at the cameras and helicopters...but that's about it.

Does it bum me out? No. I manage to cope without freaking out. The landscape alone..keeps things in perspective.
 

gaiusmarius

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It's far from intolerable dude. It's only intolerable on the internet.

You'd think everyone on here...is living in poverty...starving...and handcuffed in their cells. But...they are not.

Maybe a passport....and a little bit of traveling...would open eyes to just how good...it is...to live in plushness. Maybe then...there could be some appreciation. I'm sure there are funds...for vacations.

I don't know where all these malcontents live...but I have a feeling...they are over fed..and out of shape..from all the amenities.

you need to differentiate between your personal experience of every day life and the lives of those that are killed, robbed and exploited while you live your perfect life.

further more just because you are not being kidnapped rendered tortured and imprisoned indefinitely without charges, or having your country bombed, or filled with terrorists to achieve regime change, does not mean you can just say oh well it's not happening to me so i don't give a fuck.

your whole arguments seems to be based on all of this evil stuff being done, being ok as long as you personally are not affected? well i can tell you that the history books are full of people like you. a lot of them had to justify them selves at Nirenberg. going along with evil in your name just cause it's not directed at you is bs imo.

so yes speaking up is better then not doing anything, because sooner or later it will end up involving you and or yours and then it will be too fucking late to change anything.
 

Jericho Mile

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you need to differentiate between your personal experience of every day life and the lives of those that are killed, robbed and exploited while you live your perfect life.

further more just because you are not being kidnapped rendered tortured and imprisoned indefinitely without charges, or having your country bombed, or filled with terrorists to achieve regime change, does not mean you can just say oh well it's not happening to me so i don't give a fuck.

your whole arguments seems to be based on all of this evil stuff being done, being ok as long as you personally are not affected? well i can tell you that the history books are full of people like you. a lot of them had to justify them selves at Nirenberg. going along with evil in your name just cause it's not directed at you is bs imo.

so yes speaking up is better then not doing anything, because sooner or later it will end up involving you and or yours and then it will be too fucking late to change anything.

1st off....drop the whole history book thing. History is subjective.

What are you doing in the real world? Talk is cheap. You sound like such the humanitarian....but what are you really doing?

I'm not going along with any evils...with any sort of deliberation. I'm living my life happily....playing the cards dealt to me. No different than anything you are doing. I just lack the illusions.

What do you want me to do? Show me by example. Don't sit there and talk about voting for politicians (especially ones that don't have a snow ball's chance)....and don't sit there acting like you have a fucking clue to what you are talking about. Show me some action.

You are no different from me brotherman...take a step down
 
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