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Hypothetical Vert Lighting Setup Questions

Greenheart

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Reflectix wins my vote over reflector any day of the week.

I would column. Maybe column with a horizontal at the top if I was overkilling and didn't have enough headroom to run a triple column. I have never had more than one bulb in a room at a time so my opinion is only based upon research and theory not appliction of it. Well except for the reflectix. That is some awesome tech. Well worth the money and hardly any bleedthru unlike that foil coated styrofoam board stuff. Much easier to cut as well. Well I wandered a little from the main deck but I think I stayed on it. Good luck with things.
 

bobblehead

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bobblehead

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Hey we don't need to keep seeing pictures of your brother Bobble. We know his stupidity is on your dads side.

I'm glad you brought that up... because I was watching tv last night, and there was a man swimming with an alligator!

:laughing:

I guess the gator was shot in the head, and the man nursed him back to health. Wild.

These boards were more fun when we could all get along despite our differences... Without speaking down about each other, other than in jest.

IDK about you guys, but I'm gonna get high. :smokey:
 

bobblehead

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Folks in medville are jaded and don`t know how blessed they are to appreciate the freedom they have and definitely take it for granted....regardless....

We're gonna keep things civil Fredders... and I want to civilly disagree with you about folk in medville being jaded and growing for God. You've never lived in medville. Maybe you've visited, other than that you know what you read.

I was growing before Michigan went medical. I know what its like to live with constant anxiety of being busted. Not being able to tell anyone. As long as I kept my lips shut tight and made it to harvest, my product would fetch $325-350 an oz all day. The trim was ok, but the final product was nothing like the medicine I turn out now.

The medicine I turn out now has to score 20%+ at a lab without any contaminants to fetch $175-200 an oz. All the leaves have to be trimmed off, with minimal stem. If I don't meet all of those criteria, my meds don't sell. Even if I do meet all of those criteria, there's so much selection that people still might not want my meds. Then what? Hash it? Ship it out of state and risk a felony? Smoke it? Its not as simple as walking into a dispensary and unloading your meds. Everyone goes to the pot shop to unload their meds. You have to be competitive. That might mean going organic for improved flavor, and overall plant health. In medville, more people know what a grow-op looks like, and imo you're more likely to get robbed in medville than non-medville. Some people make robbing growers their job.

You've been painting with a broad brush for a while now buddy. What goes in Hell doesn't work everywhere. We're all different, with different situations.
 

SRGB

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DaveTheNewbie:

Its thinking 3 dimensionally. Spreading lights in the X Y and Z axis.


Hi, DaveTheNewbie.

Yes, the light sources might be positioned along X, Y, and Z coordinates. Their position might be further plotted based on complex numbers and the resultant domain and range of luminaire positioning.

The concept might be to create arrays of `lines`, or photon rays, that illuminated, or struck asymmetrical, angled surfaces (re `leaves`), inside of a `box`, in an asymetrical pattern.

One purpose of such an arrangement might be an attempt to distribute the given illumination over an extended domain and range - perhaps a greater domain and range than the same luminaires positioned solely in a straight line (on either the X or Y planes, respectively), and solely positioned at static 90 degrees on the Z plane (without slight 5 to 15 degree angling of the luminares).

Best,
/SRGB/
 
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DHF

I apologize for bringing certain things to the forefront on a public weedsite.....Maybe I`m a bit jealous of medville due to havin to shut down abruptly and outta nowhere in `09 when I was dialed and hoonin , but.....

I mean no disrespect , and appreciate what all sincere members bring to the table to help folks up their game from tried and true usable knowledge and experience......

AG and Bobbles.....Medville`s ya`ll`s marketplace , and far be it from me to try and say anyone`s not playin things on the straight and narrow , while being in compliance with state and local stipulations on plant count and or where said product ends up for final consumption ......again.....

Please accept my apology ....I just know things that most other folks don`t realize about excess product being distributed elsewhere across the nation for us poor ass "illegal" consumers , and it hit`s me wrong from time to time when my integrity comes into question by certain members , and ....finally....

I wish nothing but the best for all involved , but I have zero tolerance for people that think they know me and don`t have a clue......I don`t come here to feed my ego cuz it`s non-existent....

I wear Carhaart overalls and drive a dinged up Ford F-350 dually to haul stock trailers and hay bales for critters......I come here ta help folks be better growers from first hand experience longer than a lotta folks here have been alive.....but.....

I take personal attacks to the bone , so I`ve thought about the so-called constructive criticism and I`m just gonna try and post less and lurk more .....

I`m busy at the farm and lake these days , so it`s prolly better I chill and regain my composure while just responding to the multiple pm`s I get.....

That way there`s no conflict or dissention from anyone in open forum , and folks still get helped....PM`s are open....

Ya`ll take care.....DHF.....:ying:.....
 

anonymousgrow

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Everyone knows that most of what is grown here doesnt sell here. Just as most do it purely for profit. There are a few that do attempt to do it right though. And I am sure there are a lot of growers that don't grow and excess and just have enough to puff.
 

bobblehead

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I KNOW what's up in medville. I've had my fingers on the pulse of this market for the past 4 years. I've been frequenting the dispensaries since they opened. Obviously a lot of it doesn't stay here... All of MY "donations" are local. What happens to it from there isn't my business. I know what I take to the dispensary stays in Michigan. I have a good relationship with the owner, and its a 100% family run operation. I stick with them even though they keep cutting me down on the ticket b/c they are family, and they take good care of their patients as well as their vendors. That's not every dispensary. Years ago many of them were busted receiving out-of-state shipments.

It doesn't even take 1 time having a AR pointed at you and getting handcuffed and questioned to know that you don't ever want to be in that situation again...


So again, many people do break the rules and send their meds out-of-state for a higher ticket... Others would rather not take the risk, and are happy with 2.5-2.8k a lb. EVEN MORE people are sticking to their personal plant limit or less, and only growing for personal use. They would rather not have the hassle of selling. I truly believe those people are the majority. The same thing has happened in Cali, where people can't even give their meds away because the market there is so flooded.

I feel as if I was jaded before I went medical honestly... Trusting nobody. I used to believe everyone was in this for profit. There are many people who grow for the love of the plant... and when you reduce the financial incentive to grow, the ones who are left are the ones who are good at what they do, truly love the plant, and/or both. I'm still in this for profit, but I'm not looking to get rich doing it anymore either... and that has helped me to make better decisions about who I associate with. Just because I'm in it for profit doesn't mean I'm not helping people either... Because I bring a damn fine product to the table when everything is going right. Cannabis is medicine, and we are healing the masses. Its just too bad not everyone has the freedom we do in medville.

Then again, if everyone had the freedom, Phillip Morris would be turning out marijuana cigarettes and put us all out of business by now.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

Then again, if everyone had the freedom, Phillip Morris would be turning out marijuana cigarettes and put us all out of business by now.

Its only a matter of time. Once the dust settles and the large companies loose the fear of being taken to court in a non friendly state for things they do in a friendly state, your all going to see major changes.

When theres profit theres industry. In 5-10 years it will be like the alcohol market. Few people brew thier own but nobody really sells home brew. A couple of small botique brewers trying to make a living but most people buying from the shop cause its just easier.
 

LyryC

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Its only a matter of time. Once the dust settles and the large companies loose the fear of being taken to court in a non friendly state for things they do in a friendly state, your all going to see major changes.

When theres profit theres industry. In 5-10 years it will be like the alcohol market. Few people brew thier own but nobody really sells home brew. A couple of small botique brewers trying to make a living but most people buying from the shop cause its just easier.

Sorry to stray off Topic OP - but I don't even fear the industrialization of cannabis.

I think a larger concern and greater fear is GMO cannabis.... that shit hurts just to think about!

Good luck with your Vert venture if you go on it OP!
 
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DHF

Its only a matter of time. Once the dust settles and the large companies loose the fear of being taken to court in a non friendly state for things they do in a friendly state, your all going to see major changes.

When theres profit theres industry. In 5-10 years it will be like the alcohol market. Few people brew thier own but nobody really sells home brew. A couple of small botique brewers trying to make a living but most people buying from the shop cause its just easier.
Ok ....Let`s go to school where Fred lives.....Every rural county outside the major metro areas for the most part are "DRY" as in NO FUKIN ALCOHOL sales.....period.....and why ?...

Cuz I reside in the "Bible Belt" where there`s more "Baptist" Churches per capita than all the Quick marts , State stores , and privately owned Package stores combined , and guaranteed there`s a FULLY established "Black Market" bootleg top shelf moonshine , labeled whiskey , beer and wine distributors behind closed doors in walk in cooler setups from clandestine barns set up with gambling machines , and every other type of vice you need from north to south AND protected and paid for to the local " Boss Hawg" LEO`s......so.....that said......

How the FUCK are we EVER gonna get dope legalized for manufacture and sale in a "MMJ" politically controlled system when we can`t even buy alcohol except in metro areas , and not till after 12 on Sunday`s , and for fuckinget it on "election" day......anyways.....what I`m getting at is.....

There will ALWAYS be a "Black Market" for shit that`s not regulated and taxed , and I`m so familiar with it that I know like I know my name it`s not makin it down here anytime soon , and as far as genetically modified seeds and plants go by Monsanto Lyryc......

Don`t fret cuz us "Career criminals" in HELL will ALWAYS have what ya`ll need in medville if it comes down to it...there`s old head genetics down here too , just not advertised.....and why ?....cuz in the famous words of Bocephus/Hank Williams Jr......We can skin a buck and run a trot line....

Country boy can survive....and will......

Peace....DHF.....:ying:......
 
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Ok ....Let`s go to school where Fred lives.....Every rural county outside the major metro areas for the most part are "DRY" AS in NO FUKIN ALCOHOL sales.....period.....and why ?...

Cuz I reside in the "Bible Belt" where there`s more "Baptist" Churches per capita than all the Quick marts , State stores , and privately owned Package stores combined , and guaranteed there`s a FULLY established "Black Market" bootleg top shelf moonshine , labeled whiskey , beer and wine distributors behind closed doors in walk in cooler setups from clandestine barns set up with gambling machines , and every other type of vice you need from north to south AND protected and paid for to the local " Boss Hawg" LEO`s......so.....that said......

How the FUCK are we EVER gonna get dope legalized for manufacture and sale in a "MMJ" politically controlled system when we can`t even buy alcohol till after 12 on Sunday`s , and for fuckinget it on "election" day......anyways.....what I`m getting at is.....

There will ALWAYS be a "Black Market" for shit that`s not regulated and taxed , and I`m so familiar with it that I know like I know my name it`s not makin it down here anytime soon , and as far as genetically modified seeds and plants go by Monsanto Lyryc......

Don`t fret cuz us "Career criminals" in HELL will ALWAYS have what ya`ll need in medville if it comes down to it...there`s old head genetics down here too , just not advertised.....and why ?....cuz in the famous words of Bocephus/Hank Williams Jr......We can skin a buck and run a trot line....

Country boy can survive....and will......

Peace....DHF.....:ying:......


Hell yea man. I wouldn't have it any other way. :tiphat:
I tried CA, I tried CO. I always end up back home.:pie:

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Mister_D

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Ok ....Let`s go to school where Fred lives.....Every rural county outside the major metro areas for the most part are "DRY" as in NO FUKIN ALCOHOL sales.....period.....and why ?...

Cuz I reside in the "Bible Belt" where there`s more "Baptist" Churches per capita than all the Quick marts , State stores , and privately owned Package stores combined , and guaranteed there`s a FULLY established "Black Market" bootleg top shelf moonshine , labeled whiskey , beer and wine distributors behind closed doors in walk in cooler setups from clandestine barns set up with gambling machines , and every other type of vice you need from north to south AND protected and paid for to the local " Boss Hawg" LEO`s......so.....that said......

How the FUCK are we EVER gonna get dope legalized for manufacture and sale in a "MMJ" politically controlled system when we can`t even buy alcohol except in metro areas , and not till after 12 on Sunday`s , and for fuckinget it on "election" day......anyways.....what I`m getting at is.....

There will ALWAYS be a "Black Market" for shit that`s not regulated and taxed , and I`m so familiar with it that I know like I know my name it`s not makin it down here anytime soon , and as far as genetically modified seeds and plants go by Monsanto Lyryc......

Don`t fret cuz us "Career criminals" in HELL will ALWAYS have what ya`ll need in medville if it comes down to it...there`s old head genetics down here too , just not advertised.....and why ?....cuz in the famous words of Bocephus/Hank Williams Jr......We can skin a buck and run a trot line....

Country boy can survive....and will......

Peace....DHF.....:ying:......

Reminds me of the "good ole days" living in misery, oops I mean Missouri :biggrin:. Fred's is right though, you don't know that paranoid feeling til you grow in the bible belt. It's illegal in some places, but they damn near remove hands at the mention of illegal substances in the bible belt. Whole other world down that way..... Dry counties are a trip too, but that "white lightning" is always 'round if ya know the right people. :laughing:
 
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DaveTheNewbie

you guys for real???
i mean no beer ?
fuck that, im not coming over for a BBQ after all :)
 
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DHF

you guys for real???
i mean no beer ?
fuck that, im not coming over for a BBQ after all :)
Beers, Bongs , and BBQ are standard equipment round my farm......

It ain`t illegal to keep it , only gettin caught with it drivin and spillin it.....as in the beers and not the bongs..:moon:....

Dave.....Yas could do worse than comin and visitin Hell some of these days.....

Lotta love and hospitality down here .....but...Politics and paid for territories to do as one sees fit for the right price are available as well.....

Peace.....Freds.....:ying:......
 
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