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U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

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bentom187

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unfortunately I know what you mean when you say you don't know weather to laugh or cry when you hear people state this is the most free country on earth. when the truth is its a blatant lie.


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here is a sad and a little disturbing video,but everyone needs to consider it,because turning a blind eye is what got us here in the first place.everyone at the very least can make educating voting a common practice,to dissolve this slave facotory.


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Your statement makes no sense at all in a "Government of the people, for the people, and by the people." But is the truth in a tyrannical dictatorship building a hi-tech scientific police state. Unfortunatley your way of thinking has been programmed into millions of Americans by the establishments social engineers through the government controlled public education system and mass media outlets shaping young minds and old alike to destroy America from within.

Ok

Do you have a Government job?
 

headband 707

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Meanwhile people are spying on US Government..

It goes both ways.


So what,,, we spy on the Gov and unearth all this the illegal activities and now what LOL?? If it really worked out that they are held to the same laws as we are then 3/4 of the ppl in power would now be in jail.Without any questions Obama,Harper would be in jail. So what is good for the goose is NOT good for us and they prove this shit every single day. It goes both ways but it only swings in their favour lol.. headband 707
 

bentom187

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well, this is nice.the congress is about to be blackmailed or threatened with violence to do the NSA's bidding.

Chilling Development: NSA Takes on Amash Amendment

The Huffington Post reports today that NSA director General Keith Alexander called an emergency Top Secret/SCI-level meeting on Capitol Hill to urge Members to vote against Rep. Justin Amash's (R-MI) amendment to the Defense Appropriations bill which would end blanket collection authority under the Patriot Act and stop the NSA and other agencies "from using Section 215 of the Patriot Act to collect records, including telephone call records, that pertain to persons who are not subject to an investigation under Section 215."

These behind closed doors sessions are usually designed to intimidate and strong-arm any wavering Members. As Rep. John Duncan (R-TN), a Ron Paul Institute Board Member, has recounted numerous times, administration and intelligence community officials use highly questionable tactics and bogus evidence at these secret briefings to browbeat Members into voting their way.

Today's NSA-requested meeting will be no different. No doubt Alexander will bring out all manner of "evidence" of the ghastly plots that were averted through the collection of millions of our phone records, but as the Huffington Post article points out, "Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee with access to classified details about the program, said there is no evidence that the data collection had been directly responsible for stopping any single plot."

Gen. Alexander's tactics are familiar as they are disturbing. The ability to classify such briefings at the highest levels imparts upon them a level of seriousness and truthfulness that is not necessarily warranted. And it is chilling to think that a member of the executive branch would insert himself so deeply into the legislative processes of the first branch of government, Congress.
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archive...development-nsa-takes-on-amash-amendment.aspx
 

bentom187

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Oath Keepers launches new campaign to place signs and billboards near Washington D.C. area defense and intelligence agencies, praising Edward Snowden for exposing the NSA spying on Americans and urging other government employees to follow Snowden’s example by becoming whistle-blowers.



To launch this new campaign, Oath Keepers has placed three back-lit signs on the subway platform in the D.C. Metro Pentagon Station.

The first sign at the Pentagon Station is done in the style of the theater scene from George Orwell’s 1984 and features Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, as “Big Brother” (which we think he was born to play):
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That “Big Brother” sign makes it clear that by exposing the NSA spying on Americans, Snowden honored his oath, and other government employees need to honor their oaths by also exposing unconstitutional actions. Here is an actual photo of the sign, posted on YAL’s (Young Americans for Liberty) Facebook page:
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Thanks YAL!

The URL on the sign, oathkeepers.org/expose, takes viewers to a special landing page where the government employees can learn more about their obligations to blow the whistle on government violation of the Constitution, and more about exactly what the NSA has been doing and how it fits into the larger picture of the ongoing creation of an uncountable, totalitarian police state in America that is outside the Constitution and a grave threat to the survival of liberty in America. This particular “Stop Big Brother” artwork will also be going on a billboard along a major freeway in Maryland, near the NSA headquarters at Ft. Mead (as close as we can get it). That freeway billboard should be up within the week.

The second sign now in place at Pentagon Station is aimed directly at CIA employees, reminding them that their oath is not to a “corporate culture of secrecy” as new CIA director Brennan recently stated, but is in fact to the Constitution:
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And yes, we knew exactly what we were doing when we decided to use the J.F.K. swearing in as the graphic for this sign. Read this.

CIA Director Brennan’s revealing statement came with his announcement of the CIA’s new Orwellian “Honor the Oath” campaign to stop leaks and whistleblowers:


In a memo to the CIA workforce this week, Brennan says the “Honor the Oath,” campaign is intended to “reinforce our corporate culture of secrecy” through education and training.

Brennan is truly outdoing even George Orwell in his novel 1984 when it comes to twisting the meaning of words. In America, the Oath, and the only oath that is operative within legitimate government under our Constitution, is the oath mandated by Article VI, which is to “support this Constitution.” Brennan must be talking about some other oath outside of, and contrary to, the Constitution. Just as in 1984, where the “Ministry of Love” is where you were taken to be tortured, and the “Ministry of Truth” is where lies and propaganda were created, in the CIA, honoring “the oath” means to “reinforce [and obey] our corporate culture of secrecy” by never exposing anything done by “The Company” no matter how heinous, how unconstitutional, how evil, or how much in violation of the oath to the Constitution. Typical totalitarian ethics. Help us counter his brainwashing by reminding CIA employees of their actual oath. We will place this same message on a billboard near CIA headquarters in VA.

The third sign just placed at the D.C. Metro Pentagon Station is intended to reach our military personnel within the Pentagon, and any other government employees who have ever served in the military, using the Iwo Jima flag raising as a backdrop to the message “they honored their oaths. Honor yours. Refuse to Violate the Bill of Rights. Expose unconstitutional acts”:
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And that sign is very similar to the billboard we have placed outside of the Marine Corps base at 29 Palms. All three signs direct the readers to the same landing page at oathkeepers.org/expose where Oath Keepers has a strong message for them:


When Edward Snowden blew the whistle and exposed NSA spying on Americans, he did the right thing. He honored the oath he swore to defend the Constitution by warning We the People of what was being done to us, by our own government, in direct violation of the Constitution. Snowden could not use the “normal” channels for reporting unlawful behavior because our government is controlled and dominated by oath breaking criminals and Constitution killers, from top to bottom. It is absurd to demand that he report crimes against the Constitution to the very criminals who are committing those crimes. They are not going to hold themselves accountable. The only recourse is to blow the whistle to the real bosses, the American people, so the people can hold them accountable. And that is exactly what Snowden did. And that is exactly what you should do if you have similar knowledge of violations of the rights of the American people and violations of the Constitution you swore an oath to defend. You have a duty to speak out.

The regime, and those complicit in its crimes, want you to think that speaking out and exposing them is “treason.” This should come as no surprise. No oppressive regime in the history of the world, no budding dictatorship, ever acknowledged the illegality and illegitimacy of its actions. To the contrary, every oppressive regime that has infested a nation has perverted the host country’s legal system to make its crimes “legal” and to turn the legal system into a weapon to silence not just dissent, but also to silence those who seek to expose its crimes. It is no different here, in the United States. As Congressman Ron Paul noted, “truth is treason in the empire of lies.” That is what the regime believes. But in reality, silence is treason when our Republic is being destroyed from within.

read the rest .......
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/07...-in-dc-area-encouraging-more-whistle-blowers/
 

CannaBunkerMan

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Well, we all know where that vote would go. With General Alexander the Great strong-arming members of congress in a top secret meeting just before the vote. Maybe congress needs a sentiment from the people that is stronger than just words. What ever happened to separation of powers? Bullshit, man!
 

gaiusmarius

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incredible, it seems no price is too high to catch a terrorist. specially when you consider the latest definition of a terrorist from the fedgov. its all self perpetuating, the more they see into the minds of the people, the more they fear the people so the more intrusive they will continue to become.
 

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Obama: Don't defund NSA surveillance The Oval
David Jackson, USA TODAY
10:18 a.m. EDT July 24, 2013



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The White House is weighing in against a congressional proposal that would block funding for the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone data.

"We oppose the current effort in the House to hastily dismantle one of our intelligence community's counterterrorism tools," said a statement from President Obama's press secretary, Jay Carney.

In opposing an amendment being pushed by Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., Carney said that Obama welcomes a debate on surveillance, but opposes a "blunt approach" that could compromise national security.

It's not known whether the full House will approve the Amash amendment, or if the Senate would follow suit.

In any event, Obama would likely veto any attempt to cut NSA surveillance funding.

Carney's full statement:

"In light of the recent unauthorized disclosures, the president has said that he welcomes a debate about how best to simultaneously safeguard both our national security and the privacy of our citizens.

"The administration has taken various proactive steps to advance this debate, including the president's meeting with the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, his public statements on the disclosed programs, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence's release of its own public statements, ODNI General Counsel Bob Litt's speech at Brookings, and ODNI's decision to declassify and disclose publicly that the Administration filed an application with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. We look forward to continuing to discuss these critical issues with the American people and the Congress.

"However, we oppose the current effort in the House to hastily dismantle one of our intelligence community's counterterrorism tools.

"This blunt approach is not the product of an informed, open, or deliberative process. We urge the House to reject the Amash Amendment, and instead move forward with an approach that appropriately takes into account the need for a reasoned review of what tools can best secure the nation."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theov...ational-security-agency-justin-amash/2582169/

roll call of the bill
http://defundthensa.com/
share this everywhere guys!!!!
they need to be held accountable!
 

k-s-p

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Saw this bit from Jimmy Carter, went largely unreported in the US press, but appears at the link below at Salon and also at the link to the article in German at Der Spiegel here:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/nsa-affaere-jimmy-carter-kritisiert-usa-a-911589.html



Jimmy Carter: US “has no functioning democracy”

The former president weighs in on NSA and the future of Internet platforms like Google and Facebook

BY ALBERTO RIVA

http://www.salon.com/2013/07/18/jimmy_carter_us_has_no_functioning_democracy_partner/

This article originally appeared on International Business Times.

Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter is so concerned about the NSA spying scandal that he thinks it has essentially resulted in a suspension of American democracy.

“America does not at the moment have a functioning democracy,” he said at an event in Atlanta on Tuesday sponsored by the Atlantik Bruecke, a private nonprofit association working to further the German-U.S. relationship. The association’s name is German for “Atlantic bridge.”

Carter’s remarks didn’t appear in the American mainstream press but were reported from Atlanta by the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel, whose Washington correspondent Gregor Peter Schmitz said on Twitter he was present at the event. The story doesn’t appear in the English-language section of the Spiegel website and is only available in German.

The 39th U.S. president also said he was pessimistic about the current state of global affairs, wrote Der Spiegel, because there was “no reason for him to be optimistic at this time.” Among the developments that make him uneasy, Carter cited the “falling of Egypt under a military dictatorship.” As president, Carter managed to get then-Egyptian president Anwar Sadat and Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin to sign the Camp David peace agreements in 1979.

Carter said a bright spot was “the triumph of modern technology,” which enabled the democratic uprisings of the Arab Spring; however, the NSA spying scandal, Carter said, according to Der Spiegel, endangers precisely those developments, “as major U.S. Internet platforms such as Google or Facebook lose credibility worldwide.”
 

bentom187

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i watched Fahrenheit 9/11 last night -- it is finally OnDemand. we've all been played.

The Official Story of 9/11 Explained
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they lie to our face, and the guy who owns the world trade center just tried to sue the airlines for their planes hitting his building.i'm pretty sure he was already paid insurance money for it.

World Trade Center Owner Sues Airlines for 9/11 Attacks, Wants Billions

and here is something new to their bag of sick tricks.it wont be long till these unexplained crashes are commonplace.

Watch DARPA Hackers Take Control Of A Toyota Prius

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also the man who organizes the oathkeepers ,the one mentioned a few posts back,has been set up.i can make a educated guess and say it is the nsa.

BREAKING: Attempted Set-Up
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and not to long ago another independent reporter was also set up in the same manner.

Attempted Setup
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so we have change now ?

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bentom187

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speaking of the devil

Senate bill authorizes sanctions on Russia or any other country offering Snowden asylum

WASHINGTON — U.S. sanctions against any country offering asylum to Edward Snowden advanced in Congress Thursday as the 30-year-old National Security Agency leaker remained in a Moscow airport while Russia weighed a request for him to stay permanently.

The measure introduced by Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., demands the State Department coordinate with lawmakers on setting penalties against nations that seek to help Snowden avoid extradition to the United States, where authorities want him prosecuted for revealing details of the government’s massive surveillance system. The Senate Appropriations Committee approved the proposal unanimously by voice vote as an amendment to next year’s $50.6 billion diplomacy and international aid bill.


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k-s-p

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Well, we all know where that vote would go. With General Alexander the Great strong-arming members of congress in a top secret meeting just before the vote. Maybe congress needs a sentiment from the people that is stronger than just words. What ever happened to separation of powers? Bullshit, man!

This no doubt had an effect on the vote, it was pretty close. We've got some gutless bastards "representing" us.
 

RetroGrow

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This has become frighteningly surreal. We live in a Fascist country, and the Russians are now the "good guys"? The hero who lived up to the oath he took to obey the Constitution is now the bad guy, and the President, who has no regard for the Constitution and who should have been impeached for all his constitutional violations is the "good guy"?
The people's will means nothing anymore. This is not the America that I knew, and certainly not the America our founding fathers fought for. I'm disgusted and depressed by this. It's a total outrage. We are being bullied by our own representatives, and the rest of the world is being bullied to fall in line or else. Contemptible!
 

CannaBunkerMan

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For anyone who hasn't figured it out yet, when Obama says, "I welcome the debate on ...", what he ACTUALLY means is, "Fuck no, there's no way we're actually going to change that."
 
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