Big Bang Micro Box

[NKOTS]

I applied this extreme defoliation because of the high temperatures we have here, also for the light penetration and last but not least to concentrate all the nutrients and the feeding stuff to where I need them to go, the top of the plant!

ok, i see your point but in fact the foliage IS the source of energy, which is then directed to new growth (tips and flowers).
i don't think this defoliation results in much harm - still you got rid of some part of plant's source of energy.

but i understand the temp issue. in fact i think this is your biggest problem. maybe applying 2 inlets and 1 outlet would help.

but since you have 2 outlets already, i would rather advice to add 2 or 3 more inlets (passive will do - just make it lightproof). have you considered such a solution?

peace

 

[kiwi_growa]

I'm with NKOTS on this one too. Those leaves photosynthesis and produce energy for the buds to grow. The buds will sap the energy and nutrients from those leaves towards the end of flowering. So taking them off in my opinion is like taking a few grams away from your final harvest. The plant will concentrate its energy on the buds as soon as it goes into 12/12, it will still be producing leaves but only to accommodate for the buds. So the theory of ripping of the leaves to direct energy toward the bud doesn't really make sense to me. Because your basically ripping the energy off that was initially there to feed the buds in the end anyway?

Defoliation is a well argued topic among many users here, some love it some hate it. I agree that taking maybe 1-3 leaves off a week to allow light to hit a semi-major budsite would help that budsite to stretch that bit further to catch up with the canopy. But i don't really like intense defoliation.

Also if temps are your problem i wouldn't take leaves off to fix them, sure it will allow more air flow around the plant and keep things a lil cooler. But i doubt it will change the temp by more than a degree or two. I'd be looking something that'd dramatically drop the temps so you never have to worry about that aspect again, ventilation is vital in any setup and temps are aswel. You can't really take short cuts with these kinda things without slowing growth down from stress. Ventilation and temps are just as important as the lights and the medium you plant in to me. I am amazed the temps are no good in that cab it seems like you have more than adequate ventilation? Id maybe reposition the intake fans and put them up with the exhaust to be exhausting aswel. You really need to work on getting that hot air out of the box, more so than getting fresh air in.

 

[iskaboy]

Guys, I really appreciate your point of view and respect what you believe but as you said there are a lot of guys that like defoliating and more that hate it, as you also know I told you that I am at my first try and this run is also to experiment what kind of grower I am and what method of growing suit me and give me more, and for this I am anticipating that for the 90% next grow will be a dwc grow with only 1 female plant that will be only topped few times.. Then I will compare results and decide how to perpetual, in soil or hydro.. Back to the main argument, the leaves I got rid of were the lower leaves that they weren't getting any light most of the time so no photosynthesis was done.. Not looking for excuses or anything else, just to let you guys know

 

[kiwi_growa]

Very good point iskaboy! I wasn't really arguing, just letting you know what i think. I know a lot of growers who defoliate and get better results than I so it would be unfair for me to argue the point. It was good to hear your reasoning, and yep i think it would be fair to say that those lower leaves won't get much usable light from those lights. Thanks man, yeah?

 

[iskaboy]

Thanks to you my friend, your interest is the best tribute that I can get!

 

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[iskaboy]

Is it normal guys to have those amber trichomes after only 1 month of flowering? The 2 sour cream still have white trichomes and are fattening but the big bang is maturing so fast and the buds are still so small O.O

 

[5th]

Is it normal guys to have those amber trichomes after only 1 month of flowering?

I've never had it happen on any of my plants. Hell I watch them so the first sign of amber I cut em down. (prefer my high a lil' racy) Be interesting to see what develops though.

 

[NKOTS]

wow, iskaboy, i haven't lurked here for a little while and now i see so many nice and hairy budsites! absolutely wonderful.

it seems to me, it was really worth to veg the BB for so long as it will reward you with great flowers! and very amber, apparently

keep it green my friend

 

[iskaboy]

I've never had it happen on any of my plants. Hell I watch them so the first sign of amber I cut em down. (prefer my high a lil' racy) Be interesting to see what develops though.

wow, iskaboy, i haven't lurked here for a little while and now i see so many nice and hairy budsites! absolutely wonderful.

it seems to me, it was really worth to veg the BB for so long as it will reward you with great flowers! and very amber, apparently

keep it green my friend

Thank you guys for passing by, I really appreciate but my worries last, I still don't know if this is a problem or just the genetic is like this.. I will give the last feeding session the 4th of August and from the 7th flush..

 

[Snype]

I've never had it happen on any of my plants. Hell I watch them so the first sign of amber I cut em down. (prefer my high a lil' racy) Be interesting to see what develops though.

Those hairs aren't trichomes. Trichomes are the shiny crystals that you see. Up close they will look like a mushroom. The amber that we speak of have to do with your trichomes.

 

[5th]

Is it normal guys to have those amber trichomes after only 1 month of flowering? The 2 sour cream still have white trichomes and are fattening but the big bang is maturing so fast and the buds are still so small O.O

We aren't talkin' about hairs...were talkin' about the "shiny crystals" If you want to be part of the conversation...you should probably read it.

 

[sgapetti]

I guess is a language problem, iskaboy is a italian brother , like me.

That said , tricomes are tricomi/giandole di resina , while the pistils are the white hair that gets brown when maturing / i petali del fiore .

After the forst set of flowers , that get brown first as well , the plant keep making flowers in order to get pollinate and survive . In that case , the first pistils are getting brown/mature while the new flowers are still forming.

Peace S

 

[iskaboy]

Thank you all guys for showing interest to my worries and also Master Sgapetti for the better translation, as you can see guys, what do you think I have to do? Start the flush or wait other 2 weeks and then flushing? Right now the big bang is 96 days from seed and 36 from the switch and the 2 sour cream are 66 days from seed and 36 days also from the switch.. Ideas?