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UFC 162: Silva vs Weidman
- Thread starter Mr. Bongjangles
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No one mentioned it because it didn't happen.
Oh it did happen Bionic.
Just like when nobody noticed or said anything about Rousey biting Carmouche and also tapping out on Carmouche's leg which is what made Liz loosen up her choke and Ronda escaped.
When Liz first said anything she was mad and said she bit her and felt her tap. Then the UFC paid her off and she started pretending like Ronda just had her mouth open and Liz did it by jamming her arm in her mouth during the choke. Then being friendly and showing her the bite marks.
If you watch the fight Ronda is being choked, bends her head down, opens her mouth and sinks her teeth into Liz's arm. A purposeful bite.
Why bring this up? Because nobody on the IC thread or anywhere else said anything about it. Well a few did. I said it right away and someone like you Bionic said it didn't happen. That there wasn't even a bite. yet there was. It is still on video for everyone to see.
Just watch the fight again. Look at the faceoff at the beginning. Weidman sticks out his glove for a shake and Silva doesn't stick out his hand to shake. Then he leans over and puts his face towards Weidman's extended hand and spits on his hand.
If you don't want to shake fine. But why do you need to lean over and put your face near it? At first I thought he was trying to kiss his hand. Hell he kissed him during the weigh in. I really did. I thought this douche bag is gonna kiss his hand instead of shaking it. Then the spit happened.
Interesting sidebar... nobody is saying anything about Silva KISSING Weidman after the first round. I guess nobody saw that either.
Look at the replay and come back and explain why Silva is leaning over with his mouth next to Weidman's glove. I might understand that you just missed the spitting. But the leaning over is obvious and there is no explanation for it other than spitting. If you come back and say you don't see him lean over or have some stupid explanation for it then I will know you are just a Silva fan boy.
Just like when nobody noticed or said anything about Rousey biting Carmouche and also tapping out on Carmouche's leg which is what made Liz loosen up her choke and Ronda escaped.
When Liz first said anything she was mad and said she bit her and felt her tap. Then the UFC paid her off and she started pretending like Ronda just had her mouth open and Liz did it by jamming her arm in her mouth during the choke. Then being friendly and showing her the bite marks.
If you watch the fight Ronda is being choked, bends her head down, opens her mouth and sinks her teeth into Liz's arm. A purposeful bite.
Why bring this up? Because nobody on the IC thread or anywhere else said anything about it. Well a few did. I said it right away and someone like you Bionic said it didn't happen. That there wasn't even a bite. yet there was. It is still on video for everyone to see.
Just watch the fight again. Look at the faceoff at the beginning. Weidman sticks out his glove for a shake and Silva doesn't stick out his hand to shake. Then he leans over and puts his face towards Weidman's extended hand and spits on his hand.
If you don't want to shake fine. But why do you need to lean over and put your face near it? At first I thought he was trying to kiss his hand. Hell he kissed him during the weigh in. I really did. I thought this douche bag is gonna kiss his hand instead of shaking it. Then the spit happened.
Interesting sidebar... nobody is saying anything about Silva KISSING Weidman after the first round. I guess nobody saw that either.
Look at the replay and come back and explain why Silva is leaning over with his mouth next to Weidman's glove. I might understand that you just missed the spitting. But the leaning over is obvious and there is no explanation for it other than spitting. If you come back and say you don't see him lean over or have some stupid explanation for it then I will know you are just a Silva fan boy.
I'm so happy that silva finally got his ass handed to him
Don't get me wrong, he's a great fighter but I've always felt was just a little bit of a biotch
He's a better counter puncher than anything and that how he won most of his fights
Clowning guys just to suck them into coming after him then counter
I hope we continue to see him get his ass whipped until he eventually retires
Don't get me wrong, he's a great fighter but I've always felt was just a little bit of a biotch
He's a better counter puncher than anything and that how he won most of his fights
Clowning guys just to suck them into coming after him then counter
I hope we continue to see him get his ass whipped until he eventually retires
Here is a link so people can watch it themselves. There are 3 vids. The first one is down. The second (alternate) and third (backup) still work.
http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/07/silva-vs-weidman.html
Then everybody reading this can judge for themselves that Silva does in fact lean over and spit on Weidman's glove and that he kisses him between rounds on the cheek. It is all designed to get Weidman to overreact and walk into a Silva face kick. But it didn't work. Silva got flattened. Spitting is way out of line though. But the UFC will hide this just like the Rousey bite. They will protect the cash cows.
http://video.mmaffa.com/2013/07/silva-vs-weidman.html
Then everybody reading this can judge for themselves that Silva does in fact lean over and spit on Weidman's glove and that he kisses him between rounds on the cheek. It is all designed to get Weidman to overreact and walk into a Silva face kick. But it didn't work. Silva got flattened. Spitting is way out of line though. But the UFC will hide this just like the Rousey bite. They will protect the cash cows.
What do you mean? His style was the exact same that made him and kept him champion for 7 straight years. It only failed him once. He's still the GOAT by a longshot.
So it's pronounced Wide-man, not Weed-man. Too bad, I liked the second pronunciation better.
Saw the replay, couldn't tell if Silva spit on Weidman's glove or not.
But did see that Weidman got a power right hand on Silva's chin in the first minute when they were on the ground, then one or two more power rights before they stood back up.
That's when Silva started showboating like crazy, standing with his hands on his hips right in front of Weidman. But like Weidman says, that's part of his tactics, he goads people into attacking him so he can counterpunch (a la knocking out Forrest Griffin on a counterpunch a few years ago).
I thought it was a mistake for Weidman to stand up with him for so long afterwards, and Silva did maintain a speed advantage in the striking game, but Weidman avoided taking any damage and maybe felt that Silva, after eating those hard rights in the 1st round, no longer had the power to hurt him, that could explain why he kept the fight standing.
I could see why people think Silva threw the fight, that bull -shite about pretending to be knocked silly after glancing blows was just stupid, and keeping his hands down even when Weidman was 2 feet in front of him was stupid as well.
But ill always maintain that those hard rights he ate while on the ground early in the fight affected his reaction speed and his thinking. Heck, later on he might even admit he doesnt remember anything after that first round.
Again, Weidman had the perfect game plan to counter Silva. Even in the striking, he knew Silva liked to dance away from his opponents, and his boxing reflected that. He came in with strikes at different angles, knowing accuracy was more important than ferocity in trying to tag a butterfly.
Saw the replay, couldn't tell if Silva spit on Weidman's glove or not.
But did see that Weidman got a power right hand on Silva's chin in the first minute when they were on the ground, then one or two more power rights before they stood back up.
That's when Silva started showboating like crazy, standing with his hands on his hips right in front of Weidman. But like Weidman says, that's part of his tactics, he goads people into attacking him so he can counterpunch (a la knocking out Forrest Griffin on a counterpunch a few years ago).
I thought it was a mistake for Weidman to stand up with him for so long afterwards, and Silva did maintain a speed advantage in the striking game, but Weidman avoided taking any damage and maybe felt that Silva, after eating those hard rights in the 1st round, no longer had the power to hurt him, that could explain why he kept the fight standing.
I could see why people think Silva threw the fight, that bull -shite about pretending to be knocked silly after glancing blows was just stupid, and keeping his hands down even when Weidman was 2 feet in front of him was stupid as well.
But ill always maintain that those hard rights he ate while on the ground early in the fight affected his reaction speed and his thinking. Heck, later on he might even admit he doesnt remember anything after that first round.
Again, Weidman had the perfect game plan to counter Silva. Even in the striking, he knew Silva liked to dance away from his opponents, and his boxing reflected that. He came in with strikes at different angles, knowing accuracy was more important than ferocity in trying to tag a butterfly.
This was the first time in a looong time that I honestly felt that I got every penny's worth of my $55 to order the PPV.
If nothing else, I was happy to see Silva lose so the division can get some fresh action again.
What's next for Silva? Does this ruin his marketability in terms of a fight with Jones? (I think GSP has made it pretty clear that he's not interested in a Silva fight - and I can't imagine the prospect is more appealing now than it was last week. What, so he can be the second guy in the UFC to beat Silva?)
Does he move up to 205 and make a legit run there?
Is it just gimmick/super fights from here on out? I have to say, the cookie I ate a couple hours ago has me sort of intrigued by the prospect of Silva v. Mark Hunt, let's say.
(Or Silva v. Cormier at LHW 205, .. ?)
If nothing else, I was happy to see Silva lose so the division can get some fresh action again.
What's next for Silva? Does this ruin his marketability in terms of a fight with Jones? (I think GSP has made it pretty clear that he's not interested in a Silva fight - and I can't imagine the prospect is more appealing now than it was last week. What, so he can be the second guy in the UFC to beat Silva?)
Does he move up to 205 and make a legit run there?
Is it just gimmick/super fights from here on out? I have to say, the cookie I ate a couple hours ago has me sort of intrigued by the prospect of Silva v. Mark Hunt, let's say.
(Or Silva v. Cormier at LHW 205, .. ?)
I watched the replay and saw no spitting, just a bow. Anderson Silva is respectful. He always bows, Japanese style, and he was hugging Weidman afterwards and congratulating him. Also, I don't agree that Silva was hurt by the ground & pound, contributing to his later knockout. He was doing his standard thing, bobbing, weaving, head movement to avoid punches, looking for his opponents and his range, before he mounts an attack, which is usually fatal. Silva idolizes Muhammud Ali, and has studied and imitated his style. Ali did the same thing, dropping his hands and just avoiding punches by head movement, frustrating his opponents, and then lashing out after playing coy for a time. It's a strategy that worked for Ali, and has worked for Silva in the past, but he made a mistake, got carried away with it, and miscalculated Weidman's reach, and he paid the price. I think there will definitely be a rematch, and Silva will knock him out. He will not play around again like he did on Saturday. He will attack in standup as he should have, and he usually finds his mark. I think Weidman is a great fighter, but he cannot match Silva's skill set.
Silva can be as hard to hit as a butterfly, but even Ali kept his hands up when opponents got close to him.
Silva was acting like a punk, he was goading Weidman so much. Maybe he did that to keep the fight standing, as Weidman definitely got the better of him on the ground, mixing gnp and a submission attempt. Silva realized this dude is as good a wrestler as Sonnen, only bigger and stronger, and wanted no part of Weidman on the ground, and kept clowning in order to induce Weidman to keep the fight standing. Maybe.
Truly, if they fought again and Silva keeps his guard up, Silva may still get beat, but it wont be a tko in the 2nd round. If there's a tko in their rematch, it'll be Silva who delivers it, not Weidman.
Silva was acting like a punk, he was goading Weidman so much. Maybe he did that to keep the fight standing, as Weidman definitely got the better of him on the ground, mixing gnp and a submission attempt. Silva realized this dude is as good a wrestler as Sonnen, only bigger and stronger, and wanted no part of Weidman on the ground, and kept clowning in order to induce Weidman to keep the fight standing. Maybe.
Truly, if they fought again and Silva keeps his guard up, Silva may still get beat, but it wont be a tko in the 2nd round. If there's a tko in their rematch, it'll be Silva who delivers it, not Weidman.
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chazz michaels
Spits on his hand??
I watched it in slow motion and normal motion multiple times..... there isn't any spitting.
I watched it in slow motion and normal motion multiple times..... there isn't any spitting.
Yeah there was no spitting involved, I've watched the fight over 10 times now and there is absolutely no spitting, if there was the reporters at the post fight conference would of been all over it, something as disrespectful as spitting would of been front page news around the world in a matter of hours after the fight.
And I'm sure the Dana and the UFC Management would of been all over it as well. Not one person (except the 2 people in this thread) has even mentioned Silva spitting on Weidman, and if he did I'm sure as shit that Weidman would of had something to say about it right there and then and at the post fight press conference too. No one in their right mind would take getting spat on at the handshake before the fight, it just never happened.
And I'm sure the Dana and the UFC Management would of been all over it as well. Not one person (except the 2 people in this thread) has even mentioned Silva spitting on Weidman, and if he did I'm sure as shit that Weidman would of had something to say about it right there and then and at the post fight press conference too. No one in their right mind would take getting spat on at the handshake before the fight, it just never happened.
Rousey bit and Silva spit!
There I made it an Ali rhyme.
He bowed!!! LMAO!!!!
He leaned over and spit. Then he goofed around because he knew it was his only chance after he got grounded and pounded in the opening half of the first round.
AND THEN HE KISSED HIM AFTER THE FIRST ROUND!!!!
Silva was always overrated.
There I made it an Ali rhyme.
He bowed!!! LMAO!!!!
He leaned over and spit. Then he goofed around because he knew it was his only chance after he got grounded and pounded in the opening half of the first round.
AND THEN HE KISSED HIM AFTER THE FIRST ROUND!!!!
Silva was always overrated.
Show me Ronda Tap 3 fast taps or 3 taps period lol .Get over it Silva lost mofo .Some ppl need to learn UFC rules a tap out is 3 fast or consecutive taps in same area . Nor did anyone see ronda bite Carmouche
