Sour bubble 2nd Run

[paperchaser825]

Just wanted to start a log here so I can NOT fuck this run up.

Will update from last run with thoughts and observations as well as update this run soon with pics and whatnot.

Clones were transplanted to flowering room yesterday.

Could have been in better health. I think the water I am using is part of my problem as well as maybe my method. My DIY aero cloner works like a charm though.

PPM's start @ 150 with tap, added ~500 of Floranova Bloom for ~650 ppm before ph.

Vegging currently @ 12 hours on with a 1 hour on period in the middle of the 12 off hours in order to beat the heat that my setup endures. Also trying 20 degree temperature differential in order to see if I can cause some stretch in the Sour Bubble that I have. I need her to open up a bit more this time as well as have a little bit more length. I have read she is just a slow vegger which is why I am doing these experiments. Just seeing if she can do a trick or two.

O btw...anyone reading this. Fair warning and advice...I am still VERY noob to growing. I have read this, done that, nothing to brag about honestly, SO that being said...if you see me doing something ridiculous all the way to minor details being incorrect, lemme know!

Thanks for your time.

 

[paperchaser825]

Here there are, got 4 with nice white roots, though they went through a little deficiency while rooting. I have a feeling this has something to so with the fact all they were fed was tap water and some rooting powder I picked up at Lowes. No ph. Just let em ride.

I put the light as close to in the middle of all 4 buckets as I can. They are closer than I would like them to be, but I didn't have the resources to change them this go round. When I rebuild they will be as far away as possible. In the meantime the light is dialed to 50% (300w).

pH is stable at around 5.9 and ppms are stable at around 650 (150 tap).

CO2 is still high due to the fact I bought a controller that is not adjustable.

Im just really focusing on bringing my plants to full term with healthy roots this time. I messed up the time table last time and wasn't really able to conduct a good study of the Sour Bubble and this team I will be doing so. I know she is ready @ around 60-63 days, so I will be doing everything to the tune of trying to harvest around then.

I would like to have a nice tasting plant this time...I don't do well with getting taste. Do hydro growers try to fade their plants like soil/soiless do? If so I think that might help as well as focusing on curing well this time. I harvested two plants last go round, one of which I kept as a mother. The plants were nice, but not nice enough to waste my time trying to cure and manicure each. The keeper would have been good smoke had I been patient enough. But alas, both are in the freezer, half of the keeper which is already been half QWISO'd. The oil is amazing, and I know the keeper will be good once I get her dialed. Turns purple toward the end @ 68F night temps and frosts up like a mofo.

I will do my best to keep this updated frequently.

Thanks for your time.

 

[paperchaser825]

Flipped the babes last night @ around lights on.

Having some issues with the spot so don't know if this will be a run I am able to finish but I will update soon with pics and whatnot.

 

[Cannabean]

hey buddy, looks good so far

is this dwc? can I ask why you chose DWC for this scale grow? admittedly I have not seen your previous grows so excuse me but DWC is not a friendly medium for beginners. It can be done and I have faith in you! but don't get discouraged.

if you have to leave your spot, you may be able to transplant them into coco for transportation. coco is a really userfriendly medium and can give you success equal to hydro mediums. :thumbsup:

 

[paperchaser825]

hey buddy, looks good so far

is this dwc? can I ask why you chose DWC for this scale grow? admittedly I have not seen your previous grows so excuse me but DWC is not a friendly medium for beginners. It can be done and I have faith in you! but don't get discouraged.

if you have to leave your spot, you may be able to transplant them into coco for transportation. coco is a really userfriendly medium and can give you success equal to hydro mediums. :thumbsup:

Performing DWC mainly because I have the knowledge and equipment to do so as well as the infrastructure in place to run the setup. It's all plumbed to pvc for rdwc and drainage. It is also in my attic, so getting water up there is a cinch compared to having to work with a medium.

Thanks for the suggestion on the move, but I think I may be ok.

Right now I am dealing with some sort of bleaching with the plants. It's occuring on the huge fan leaves and looks almost like nitrogen deficiency, but also looks like light bleach. Will try to post pictures later for a possible diagnosis.

 

[paperchaser825]

Here is a couple pics of the problem.

And here are a couple pictures of the room.

My suspicion is this is light bleaching and I may need to turn my light down to 75%-50% due to the fact I can't move the buckets at this point. Any help is greatly appreciated!

 

[paperchaser825]

Man. I really wish I had a better camera.

Pretty proud of how I got her to stretch this time. Went with a 20 degree Fahrenheit day/night differential in order to see if I could get her to do so. Hard to compare since I basically mutilated her last run by defoliating. I am done with that stuff and will just be in VertVille from here on out. It's just too simple. I may or may not lose grams by going vert, but I sure as hell DO save backache from just letting the little ones go and grow like they want. No larf to trim, no brances to bend or tie down, no screen to work through. I know I could probably do better as far as grams per, but again, the lack or work needed to operate this is just beautiful.

This Thursday will be 4 weeks, so she is ~ 3.4 weeks in. These were given ~ 2.5 weeks veg.

Here is the stretch.

The yellowing problem ended up most definitely being light bleaching due to the plants being too close. I think I will be OK though since I have a good bit of leaves on all the plants. As seen, the buds and leaves are already getting super sticky (wish you guys could get a first hand glance, THEY ARE SO STICKY). Plan is for next run to redo the plumbing. Return lines will all be separated instead of being connected to a bulkhead setup of PVC TEES connected to a single 1" line(so fucking dumb of me). So each bucket will be moved to the farthest corner it can be as well as separating the lines. Then I plan to upgrade the feed lines. Currently running 4 lines @ 1/4" lines with 90's @ the buckets. Wanting to double my feed lines to 3/8". I think the 560 GPH mag drive pump I have will be sufficient, but if not I can upgrade that easily to 1200 GPH mag drive pump. Rez Bucket will also be replaced, with a large Rough Tote to accommodate new plumbing. I am hoping I wont have to upgrade the 1" drain lines when I upgrade to the 3/8" feed lines.

Any thoughts? Suggestions? Feedback?

Thanks for your time.

 

[Bluewidow]

I'd say by the amount of clawed leaves they are/were getting too much N and possibly locked it out a bit and showing in those fans. Light bleaching is fairly rare, not something I would look at as the cause myself.

 

[paperchaser825]

I'd say by the amount of clawed leaves they are/were getting too much N and possibly locked it out a bit and showing in those fans. Light bleaching is fairly rare, not something I would look at as the cause myself.

Interesting...to be clear, the light was positioned as is with a 600w beating on it. Turned it down to 75% when I saw the bleaching, but you could certainly be on to something. I feed with Floranova Bloom @ 2.0 EC, no higher, so I am thinking nitrogen toxicity is maybe not my problem either. Again, I'm quite noob to this, so you could be right.

 

[paperchaser825]

Have another question for you guys...is running 2 600w adjustable wattage ballasts @ 50% the same as running 1 600w @ 100%? Thinking of possibly supplementing my cab with this type of dual light setup, with one light being horizontal in the original position of the light, if this is so.

 

[unspoken]

If it was my garden I would drop the ec to 1.5 or 1.7 and lower the ph to 5.5

 

[paperchaser825]

I need to do a pic update soon. They aren't stacking very hard at all. Last run was from seed and I didn't do a good job of record keeping, so I can't make a good judgement of whether or not it is my doing or not. I think I remember them not stacking until late. I'm not sure I want to continue running this strain in vertical orientation either. My cab just isn't set up well to do so with this strain it seems. I am considering running her Sea of Green with same setup only with the buckets packed bucket to bucket, but my research tells me she doesn't do as well in Sea of Green and simply needs a long veg. Will post pics tomorrow hopefully and maybe that will spark some discussion.

 

[paperchaser825]

Tonight will be day 33 of flowering. I think I may have jumped the gun again when accusing this lady of not filling out.
She just seems to fill out VERY late vs other strains I have grown. Which, admittedly, isn't many strains.
Tried to get better pics this time, but alas I have no skills here.

How does she look???

 

[whiteberrieS]

Looks high in nitrogen still, cut down on any veg nutes you might be giving her to ml's. Other than that she's looking good.

 

[paperchaser825]

Has only been fed Floranova Bloom and Liquid KoolBloom. If I am nitrogen toxic at this point I don't know how I did it, but I will look into this.

 

[paperchaser825]

Does Sour Bubble like a lot of Potassium?

 

[paperchaser825]

So I am pretty much convinced I have the lime kush pheno. She is almost abnormally covered in trichomes and reeks of limes more than anything with a smidgen of kush smell.

The pack I grew from seed was BX4 I believe. Does anyone have experience with this particular back cross and pheno? Beings my first run with her was shoddily documented, I don't have good research on her. Mostly I want to know if the 55 day rule still applies to her as far as when to harvest. I guessed that I took her at around 60 days last run, but like I said, I really dropped the ball on recording data last time.

I also wanted to expand upon my previous post. I hear people comparing this plant to pre-98 bubba a lot. If this is so, doesn't Bubba love Potassium? I am just trying to figure ways to make this pheno yield more. The flowers are covered in trichomes, but they really aren't filling out for being at 36-37 days.

I think these 2 pics sum it up for me so far. Very potent strain, but I just don't have the skills to make her yield at the moment. To be honest the pics make her look better than she does in person IMHO. I really want to learn this girl. She seems like she has so much potential. Someone help!

 

[paperchaser825]

Reading around and I am guessing I became Nitrogen toxic in veg by going to high with the ppms of Floranova Bloom. Should I ride the nitrogen out and just use Koolbloom liquid till harvest or keep as is with approximately half/half Koolbloom liquid and Floranova Bloom?

I am also guessing this is what is leading to my flowers being puny.

 

[whiteberrieS]

Yeah I'd cut the Floranova out, Koolbloom's 0-10-10 that should be all you need til she's done. Haven't grown any BOG yet, I have some SLS going now - still young'uns, but from what I understand the SB can be taken anywhere from day 48-65, depending on how asleep you like your weed to make you.

 

[GMax]

you may have some nute issues causing it, but sour bubble is a lower yielder... she is also a quick finisher, being ready between 49-55 .... I have been growing her for a while and she does grow different than all the other strains I've grown and seem to be on a different schedule than what you would expect.. but she really fattens up that last week... and the buds are small ,but they are super dense so they will weigh more than expected and yields can still be decent ....it takes runs under you belt to learn her... but she is exceptionally potent so its worth it

u look to be right on schedule to me...