Compost or compost in a buket?

[Coba]

brother I love you.

I don't know you and I love you. You contribute to this crazy shit we all love

I appreciate what you are trying to do. There are better ways to follow those who have influenced you other than trying to get banned.

please stop you are better than a troll

thank you for your support... and, love Brother BugJar. I agree with you there, there are way more subtle ways of getting my point across w/o coming off like a hateful troll... sometimes, Irrational Behavior gets the better of me... like this time, and I just hammered it in there. thank you for recognizing this for the shining example of how not to clear your chest.

Lol I didn't understand this thread at first...

You shouldn't of had to soursmoker, I should've been more clear from the beginning... in subtler, kinder way... without all the BS.

compost sure is compost...

^^ no, wait... you got it.

compost in a bucket
compost in a barrel
compost in a pile
compost is compost
whether in a bucket or a barrel
compost in a pile makes me smile

Beautiful poems Brother Babbabud. I'm very grateful for your charming effort. thank you sir for these rays of sunshine...

The search for environmental ethics, in the conventional modern sense, seems wrong-headed and fruitless … [Some] think“environmental ethics can be as tough, practical, rational and secular as prevailing Western ethics.” I find this neither desirable nor necessary, and perhaps not possible. …

The search … is not for environmental ethics but for ecological consciousness.

The attempt to solve these ecophilosophical problems on purely logical or conceptual grounds is to fail to realize that this approach is itself part of the old paradigm which needs to be replaced.

— George Sessions

Darc you're fukn awesome. you are way cool in my book too...

Thank you for the poems Babbabud... and everyone for understanding.

Glad you finally got to shout it out Coba!

Sometimes lately those 'other voices' were drowning out all the really good things people have to say here at ICMag.

Thank you for understanding too... Payaso. I owe a lot to ICMag... I have a lot of respect for these 1's and 0's, the souls that make it work, how it works...... it's a wonderful place that has changed my life.

ICMag taught me how to grow. that's one of the greatest gifts anyone can give...

You guys really are something else man. Thanks.

I never thought I was going to love rotting things....

Coba you the man....

Compost in a bucket that's what I go for


Timbuktu

^^ word.

Timbuktu you're pretty cool yourself.

I can agree the poem is cool. Coba's rant is BS. So is the fantasy that voices were drowned out. As Forrest Gump's mom said, 'Stupid is as stupid does'

I don't know what to say, I'm sorry. It was stupid to get online and rant like I did, absolutely.
And, I have no excuse for being being so mean, hateful and stupid...

i have been literally composting in a 5 gallon bucket ~it's not the whole process. I use some finished compost and add a little yarrow, alfalfa, and dandelion {cause thats what i got} this time i amended it w/ kelp crab and greensand

today, i separated the ongoing vermicompost in my tote and put some 1/4" hardware wire in the middle so i could add this compost in a bucket to my worms and they could move in to this from the finished vermicompost in the other side

this is why xmobotx, you is one of teh coolest mofo's I know... You makes Bio-Dynamic compost in a bucket.

Ode to Compost

Leaf and rind sit silent
atop the pile of waste
lifeless leftovers lingering
piled together in an organic grave

still sits the mound
quietly surveying the hum of activity
planting, watering, tending, milking, feeding, pruning,
harvesting, dancing, laughing, weeping, hoping

productivity surrounds the pile of refuse
restlessness judges the contemplation of the silent observer
yet in the inner life of that monastic pile
deep in the caverns of trash
the wet sponge of death is wrung out
hyssop and sour wine mixed with goat's milk and honey

beyond knowing and seeing
the pile teems and turns with
societies of decomposition
This civilization of death and decay
brings life

There is magic at work in the rotten stench
There is mystery to behold
in the watchman of the farm



Poem by Lucas Land

Coba go stick your head in a bucket.

I've calmed down... I won't make any more outbursts.

 

[trichrider]

making compost is now on my 'bucket' list...

 

[anonymousgrow]

If you are talking about thermal compost, i think it would be darn hard to do in a bucket unless its a big bucket. From what I understand to kill all the pathogens, insect pests, weed seed, root feeding nematodes, etc you need to keep your compost 131F for 3 days. I know how i do that on bigger scale but i am curious how you do that on a small bucket scale. I would think that i would end up putting in to much N and the temps would go to high too fast and consume the O2 and start that whole fermenting, evaporating alcohol explosion thing. Can you tell me about your bucket compost process?

 

[bajangreen]

Composting in a 5gall bucket is not as hard as some will make you believe it is. Have fill your bucket with soil and add kitchen scpaps as they come, mixing up as often as you can. Keep moist, and add leaves or browns if staying to sogy. Should take 3 weeks to get the product you want with little practice.

Taloring the process is where knowing your science can be a huge advantage! We often forget that every human has a conetion to mother earth and most important her soil, its instinctive and five galls is a perfect volume to get the hang of mainting the enviourment

 

[Microbeman]

Three weeks in a bucket. What calculator do you use to derive your ratios?

 

[anonymousgrow]

Bajan green, what does it look and smell like when it's done? Have you looked at your compost under a microscope. If so what are you seeing in each field. Per 5 fields? 10? It sounds to me like you are making an anaerobic fermented reduced kitchen waste thing. I wouldn't be surprised if you have more ciliates than anything else under the scope. Though I am very new to this whole microbe learning game and I easily could be way off here.

I do thoroughly enjoy the discourse here though. It illumines a a lot of what I am reading with people's experiences. It's a good light to have when learning this stuff.

 

[bajangreen]

I have 9 buckets and interchange them all, you get the hang of it very quickly if the soil is sticky and staying to sogy you have to add browns, if it smells bad throw it away and start over, or mix it in with one of the other buckets, I compost all my organic waste this way, the end product does not smell bad and is flufly, per it for any plant. I think that identifying good soil is as basic to us as identifying ripe fruit, we all just know its inate.

 

[bigshrimp]

It ain't nothing without life to bring it together. Compost is the sum of billions of different critters living , fucking, dying, eating, and shitting.

Not saying you cant do it in a bucket... just better innoculate.

 

[anonymousgrow]

Both seemingly good compost and seemingly good fruits can contain quite harmful pathogens. That's why we need it to get up there in temps. To kill all those off. And then look at it under a scope and see whats alive in there. The whole point of compost for me isn't to reduce my waste but to foster the growth of microbes i want present. Not to suggest that u don't make great compost, Maybe you do, but over simplifying this process will be more harmful in the long run. There are many "compost" yards in California that don't sell compost at all but reduced green waste. It does indeed break down and turn brownish but there is no life in it except anaerobic life because they don't know what they are doing, and the average gardener doesn't know any better so they still make money selling this shit off as compost. In my opinion if someone claims to be making thermal compost and isn't using a compost thermometer at the very least, they probably aren't making good compost. And without a microscope I doubt they are making great compost.

Even people who are way on top of it and have been looking at composts for years will tell u that its much harder to get compost with lots of fungal hyphae, amoebae and flagellates. Those are what we want. That's what breaks down the non soluble nutrients in the soil in exchange for sugar from the plant.

If only Bacteria and ciliates are present then I guess it stilling compost. Just not good compost.

 

[bigshrimp]

A good compost can be told by the visible critters. Sure a scope is good for aact.

But if you know anything about ecology, you know there is no fox without plenty of rabbits, and no rabbits without plenty of grass

 

[bajangreen]

I got tired of verifing mother nature with man made instraments years ago, my process works. And works well, think of it this way, energy can not be made or distroyed, what u put into your compost will come out in your plants. With that said, the science behind the processes are a must know to change your grow level to an art form.

Do I need a thermometer to tell me a steaming compost heap is not enough? Do you?
Composting was going on before mankind let alone thermometers, and to suggest that one news these tools to make compost is crazy as best, I will be the first to admit that the tools do help.


And yes I can have a bucket compost ready in three weeks.a

 

[xmobotx]

i can see a full-process bucket compost happening. not so sure about 3 weeks but; my experience w/ small scale composting leads me to believe there is less to it than some make out ~when you have a consistent product; it can be easy to assume you have a finished product & that may or may not be the case

one thing on the small scale is it's pretty easy to meter out your inputs

w/ the addition of active plant feedstocks like yarrow, nettles, comfrey, alfalfa, et al such as are applied as "compost starter," one can depend on a greater likelihood of success @ any scale but; it's also easier to have these inputs represent a greater proportion of the mix on a small scale

that isnt so much what i am doing or representing as i am using finished compost w/ some of the active feedstocks + a few amendments to prepare some worm food ~which i give a couple weeks in the bucket and shake it up/turn/mix it every couple days or so

but i have done small batches of compost inside to effect and used said product in containers to effect