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When BHO Goes Horribly Wrong

gaiusmarius

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yeah static shock has to be considered when making a bho run. very good point. i suppose using a glass tube should make a static shock impossible though, or not? i assume only a metal pipe will work to make a static spark?
 

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I didn't see any midwest reppin' up in here, so I've got to add a story from close to home. I don't mean to sound elitist, but I do believe we have some of the finest specimens of low intelligence this country has to offer. I saw Gray Wolf philosophizing on the lowest common denominators of Portland, and I'll grant him that there must be a certain quantity. I will politely argue that as far as quality goes there is nothing quite like a midwest corn fed idjit. Now without further adieu:

BAY CITY, MI — A Columbus, Ohio-based insurance company is suing a Bangor Township resident, claiming it should be reimbursed the money it paid out for a house fire caused by an illegal marijuana operation.

Nationwide Mutual Insurance Company on Friday filed the suit against Kasey McDermott. The suit states McDermott’s house at 202 S. Woodbridge sustained a fire Jan. 13. In accordance with McDermott’s insurance policy, the company paid her and J.P Morgan Chase Bank a total of $160,209.50.

According to the suit, McDermott’s husband, Brien Mathews, was operating an illegal marijuana grow in the house’s basement. On Jan. 13, Mathews, the suit alleges, “was performing an activity described as butane extraction, which involves the use of highly flammable butane, which is passed through a tube of chopped marijuana leaves and plant material to form a substance referred to as butane honey oil, which extracts all of the THC from the marijuana plant and leaf materials to convert low-quality marijuana into high-quality oil to be used and sold.”

During this process, Mathews lit a flame while surrounded by pans of flammable butane, thus sparking the house fire, the suit states.

Neither McDermott nor Mathews has been charged with a crime in Bay County. The Times was unable to reach McDermott and Mathews for comment.

Though Mathews claimed to have been producing marijuana in accordance with the state’s Medical Marihuana Act, Nationwide maintains he was growing the substance beyond the letter of the law. McDermott violated the terms of her policy by allowing such activity to occur in her house.

Source: http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2012/05/nationwide_mutual_insurance_su.html
 

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yeah static shock has to be considered when making a bho run. very good point. i suppose using a glass tube should make a static shock impossible though, or not? i assume only a metal pipe will work to make a static spark?

I ran a ground strap with my metal tubes in cold dry weather and haven't seen a spark to glass, but have read of two people now saying that they have.
 

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I didn't see any midwest reppin' up in here, so I've got to add a story from close to home. I don't mean to sound elitist, but I do believe we have some of the finest specimens of low intelligence this country has to offer. I saw Gray Wolf philosophizing on the lowest common denominators of Portland, and I'll grant him that there must be a certain quantity. I will politely argue that as far as quality goes there is nothing quite like a midwest corn fed idjit. Now without further adieu:

BAY CITY, MI — A Columbus, Ohio-based insurance company is suing a Bangor Township resident, claiming it should be reimbursed the money it paid out for a house fire caused by an illegal marijuana operation.

Nationwide Mutual Insurance Company on Friday filed the suit against Kasey McDermott. The suit states McDermott’s house at 202 S. Woodbridge sustained a fire Jan. 13. In accordance with McDermott’s insurance policy, the company paid her and J.P Morgan Chase Bank a total of $160,209.50.

According to the suit, McDermott’s husband, Brien Mathews, was operating an illegal marijuana grow in the house’s basement. On Jan. 13, Mathews, the suit alleges, “was performing an activity described as butane extraction, which involves the use of highly flammable butane, which is passed through a tube of chopped marijuana leaves and plant material to form a substance referred to as butane honey oil, which extracts all of the THC from the marijuana plant and leaf materials to convert low-quality marijuana into high-quality oil to be used and sold.”

During this process, Mathews lit a flame while surrounded by pans of flammable butane, thus sparking the house fire, the suit states.

Neither McDermott nor Mathews has been charged with a crime in Bay County. The Times was unable to reach McDermott and Mathews for comment.

Though Mathews claimed to have been producing marijuana in accordance with the state’s Medical Marihuana Act, Nationwide maintains he was growing the substance beyond the letter of the law. McDermott violated the terms of her policy by allowing such activity to occur in her house.

Source: http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2012/05/nationwide_mutual_insurance_su.html

But of course! I think we can expect to see more of insurance companies refusing to pay or suing for recovery.

They are in the business to make money, not pay it out, and my legal assistant wife used to work for a firm that figured out how to keep insurance companies from having to pay claims. Trust me when I say that they would spend a million dollars to not pay a hundred grand claim, so as to not set a precedence.

The other part of course, is that the home owner probably didn't tell the insurance agent that he was blasting butane indoors when they priced out and sold the policy, so why should it be covered?

Of more concern to me, is that insurance companies will very likely also take the position that a fire from a grow lamp isn't covered, if the garden wasn't declared. In a sane population, ostensibly the incident of grow light fires, should greatly exceed folks blowing up their homes out of ignorance or stupidity.
 

gaiusmarius

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actually after i posted that i had to think back to escalator rubber hand rails, which can also give me a static shock some times when i put my hand on the hand rail, so it seems possible for the same thing to happen with glass you think?
 

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actually after i posted that i had to think back to escalator rubber hand rails, which can also give me a static shock some times when i put my hand on the hand rail, so it seems possible for the same thing to happen with glass you think?

You can certainly build a static charge on a glass rod by rubbing it with silk or wool and watch it pick up paper.
 

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Using butane in some states is a felony and in one state [Ca] there is a minimum of 3 or 5 years. Grey Wolf what are some of the other types of gaseous cleaners that can be used, just butane is mentioned in Ca for the minimum jolt.
 
lol i blew up my bedroom this past fall, had two bottles gassed off with the windows and doors closed, not my best moment, then i decided to pop the bubbles in the oil with my torch... luckily it didn't go so bad, i mean my carpet now feels like Velcro, a wave of flames enveloped my room, and all my blue jeans and most of my shirts caught fire...also the carpet under my door was melted completely...guessing the flames shot under the door pretty hard...but most of my stuff was unharmed and i was able to clear the smoke out without anybody in my apartment complex noticing much... now my only worry is that if my apartment manager sees my carpet he will think it was a meth cooking gone bad, and probably call the cops...

i am already bald, but i lost my eyebrows and arm hair...hash was still good lol nowadays i switched back to pot, but when i do make oil it's usually always outside now, and definitely with the doors and windows open indoors(i know you guys frown upon it, but considering ive made hundreds of batches indoors and only one went bad, due to gross negligence and stupidity, i still think it's fine to do indoors, as long as you are careful about it...).
 

gaiusmarius

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sorry i have to say it, you sir are being incredibly foolish. this is exactly what i warned about. it can go well 1000 x then go boom, or it can go boom the third time. don't do it inside! take your fire as a lesson man, next time you might not be so lucky.
 

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lol i blew up my bedroom this past fall, had two bottles gassed off with the windows and doors closed, not my best moment, then i decided to pop the bubbles in the oil with my torch... luckily it didn't go so bad, i mean my carpet now feels like Velcro, a wave of flames enveloped my room, and all my blue jeans and most of my shirts caught fire...also the carpet under my door was melted completely...guessing the flames shot under the door pretty hard...but most of my stuff was unharmed and i was able to clear the smoke out without anybody in my apartment complex noticing much... now my only worry is that if my apartment manager sees my carpet he will think it was a meth cooking gone bad, and probably call the cops...

i am already bald, but i lost my eyebrows and arm hair...hash was still good lol nowadays i switched back to pot, but when i do make oil it's usually always outside now, and definitely with the doors and windows open indoors(i know you guys frown upon it, but considering ive made hundreds of batches indoors and only one went bad, due to gross negligence and stupidity, i still think it's fine to do indoors, as long as you are careful about it...).

What GM said! You are playing Russian Roulette with butane and sometimes you are luckier than others.

What would your thoughts be, if it had been a tad bit stronger air/fuel explosion, and someone was maimed or killed?

Or even if just the windows were out. Would you still be doing it sometimes indoors then?

Unlike playing with yourself, you may not go blind or crazy first to warn you that failure is eminent, you may just die or kill someone else next try.
 
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midwestHIGHS

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lol i blew up my bedroom this past fall, had two bottles gassed off with the windows and doors closed, not my best moment, then i decided to pop the bubbles in the oil with my torch... luckily it didn't go so bad, i mean my carpet now feels like Velcro, a wave of flames enveloped my room, and all my blue jeans and most of my shirts caught fire...also the carpet under my door was melted completely...guessing the flames shot under the door pretty hard...but most of my stuff was unharmed and i was able to clear the smoke out without anybody in my apartment complex noticing much... now my only worry is that if my apartment manager sees my carpet he will think it was a meth cooking gone bad, and probably call the cops...

i am already bald, but i lost my eyebrows and arm hair...hash was still good lol nowadays i switched back to pot, but when i do make oil it's usually always outside now, and definitely with the doors and windows open indoors(i know you guys frown upon it, but considering ive made hundreds of batches indoors and only one went bad, due to gross negligence and stupidity, i still think it's fine to do indoors, as long as you are careful about it...).


You, are exactly what's wrong with the whole oil movement, do it right and safe or don't do it all. Your giving everyone a bad name when things like this happen and everyone doing it safely and correctly will be brought down because of idiots like your self. Do us, your landlord and your neighbors all a favor and stop solvent extracting, before you seriously injure someone other than your dumbass.:thank you:

++++++too much+++++++
 
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lol i blew up my bedroom this past fall, had two bottles gassed off with the windows and doors closed, not my best moment, then i decided to pop the bubbles in the oil with my torch... luckily it didn't go so bad, i mean my carpet now feels like Velcro, a wave of flames enveloped my room, and all my blue jeans and most of my shirts caught fire...also the carpet under my door was melted completely...guessing the flames shot under the door pretty hard...but most of my stuff was unharmed and i was able to clear the smoke out without anybody in my apartment complex noticing much... now my only worry is that if my apartment manager sees my carpet he will think it was a meth cooking gone bad, and probably call the cops...

i am already bald, but i lost my eyebrows and arm hair...hash was still good lol nowadays i switched back to pot, but when i do make oil it's usually always outside now, and definitely with the doors and windows open indoors(i know you guys frown upon it, but considering ive made hundreds of batches indoors and only one went bad, due to gross negligence and stupidity, i still think it's fine to do indoors, as long as you are careful about it...).

Holy shit...I seriously haven't laughed this hard in a while...thanks.
I especially love the part when the blue jeans caught on fire, and the flames must have shot under the door pretty hard,
And.......
This is good...I still think its fine to do indoors.
 

teemu shalanie

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this is how the heard gets thiner,.... if u gunna blow up making bho , u could die pumping gas IMO, or using microwave wrong , u just are a nuisance to the rest of us trying to live down here , ......

ps always winterize

TS
 

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^^this is throwing caution to the wind. Anytime you seal butane indoors youre at risk. If youre outside you minimize that risk. Minimizing risk= higher percentages of success without failure/trouble. Paranoid people dont get caught as often as the people who say "fuck it". Im keeping that shit outside.
 

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Bit of advice if, despite the enormous hazard you pose to yourself and those around you, you do decide to use butane indoors make sure to turn the power off at the mains, no telling when something might throw a spark and cause destruction (EDIT: Not to mention a myriad of ignition sources that don't need electricity to function, a few are mentioned in the following posts). Windows and doors need to be open, promoting airflow throughout the residence is essential.
 
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Like dragging our feet on the carpet..................

And yet, having run more oil than most myself, I have never had to extract using an open column or thermos indoors.
 

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