SneekyNeekz's China L.E.D. P.C. Veg Case!

[Neekz]

Yeah a few people have replied negatively about me not using drivers. I figure if an AC adapter is rated at so-and-so Amps and Volts, it better be somewhere near or it would fry the device it's for. Im telling you, an AC to DC adapter is exactly the same thing as a driver. Trial and error had me find out that not all adapters are equal (they are classed by efficiency...), as all drivers aren't either (Ever wonder why the costly U.S. or Swiss brand pull the actual rated wattage? They have great drivers with excellent QC, something most companies DGAF about.). I DO NOT RECOMEND JUST WIRING + and - MATCHING AND HAVING THE DIODES SHINE AND CALLING IT A DAY! I did it at first and it is pretty risque... You gotta understand even if you have a good adapter, there can be voltage spikes and and your gonna be running the adapter beyond what it was designed to do no matter how efficient it is. Even commercial units with driver's have voltage spikes (Ever wonder why some diodes your china array flickers, some people will tell you that's how L.E.D.'s "fire", or that the diodes toast. But really it's most likely driver voltage spikes... Occasionally it can be your house's wiring, big headache...). So all in all, yes, you can safely wire together an L.E.D. array with a good majority of shit around the house (If you got a few quality L.E.D. flashlight's you can even assemble 100% free with around-the-house-items...) For me any kind of project starts with these two rules 1)Keep it simple... 2)GOOGLE is your best-friend (and ICMag!). And my wiring is okay at best, id prefer solder joint's (its a bitch when you pull a wire outta the electro tape...) or wingnut's but I work with what I got... If I had the resource's, my house would look like Umbrella Corporations "The Hive", but full of L.E.D. array's and thousand's of genetically modified krypto-canna plant's

 

[Neekz]

One thing I will mention "Tehm" (lol, I ain't callin' nobody mastah! ), is I got the Cool White 10wer's with the intention of getting C.F.L. like result's, and I got just that (Less heat, Less stretch, Less Hassle...). If you would like the full, TRUE L.E.D. experience (More vigor, Healthy growth, Broader aroma's...), then get you a custom tailored (in terms of wavelength, at least for horticulture...) array, even if you have to build it yourself. Using a broad spectrum defeats most of the positive gains of L.E.D.'s, and it took trial and error to realize. Their not too shabby tho (the Cool Whites), they grew me babies up until cut-time. They get the job done, but to step up enjoyment in this hobby, id rather go the other route, you will really be amazed at the vigor (even using a cheap-ass Blackstar unit! And at $2.20/actual draw watt I jumped on it, glad I did...). Oh and forgot to mention in the other post, a P.W.M. (Pulse-Width Modulator) is a must when using "dirty" power sources (non-driver sources, never know what they got, or are puttin out ) to drive your L.E.D.'s, they filter some of the noise and allow you to adjust the voltage down a bit if an adapters puttin out a little too much juice... Good night!

 

[tehmaster]

After waiting the weekend, The "U.F.O." has arrived.



After tinkering around this morning (Foil tapes a bitch...) I arrived at this. A "Plastic Storage Bin" with 1 DC intake fan and, 1 DC exhaust fan. Light is cool to the touch and, since it is outside the main chamber, the warm air from the sink fan isn't a concern.


Light is 4-6" from canopy, and I am worried their gonna bleach before I can find a matching container for the top. I am guessing "Merry Gardener's" cab's light efficiency (based on reflectivity...) is half this cab's, being painted flat white. The light reflecting back off the walls is burning my eyes... I cannot wait to get this thing flowering!!!

Yeah a few people have replied negatively about me not using drivers. I figure if an AC adapter is rated at so-and-so Amps and Volts, it better be somewhere near or it would fry the device it's for. Im telling you, an AC to DC adapter is exactly the same thing as a driver. Trial and error had me find out that not all adapters are equal (they are classed by efficiency...), as all drivers aren't either (Ever wonder why the costly U.S. or Swiss brand pull the actual rated wattage? They have great drivers with excellent QC, something most companies DGAF about.). I DO NOT RECOMEND JUST WIRING + and - MATCHING AND HAVING THE DIODES SHINE AND CALLING IT A DAY! I did it at first and it is pretty risque... You gotta understand even if you have a good adapter, there can be voltage spikes and and your gonna be running the adapter beyond what it was designed to do no matter how efficient it is. Even commercial units with driver's have voltage spikes (Ever wonder why some diodes your china array flickers, some people will tell you that's how L.E.D.'s "fire", or that the diodes toast. But really it's most likely driver voltage spikes... Occasionally it can be your house's wiring, big headache...). So all in all, yes, you can safely wire together an L.E.D. array with a good majority of shit around the house (If you got a few quality L.E.D. flashlight's you can even assemble 100% free with around-the-house-items...) For me any kind of project starts with these two rules 1)Keep it simple... 2)GOOGLE is your best-friend (and ICMag!). And my wiring is okay at best, id prefer solder joint's (its a bitch when you pull a wire outta the electro tape...) or wingnut's but I work with what I got... If I had the resource's, my house would look like Umbrella Corporations "The Hive", but full of L.E.D. array's and thousand's of genetically modified krypto-canna plant's

Ha! i actually have two projects ,1.my brother is giving me two computer towers , word on that when it comes to fruition.I am not sure about the condition of them, but maybe if some power supply exists i can buy a 66mm pc fan for 3.00 instead of an ac powered corded pc fan for 17.00 like i had to do already. Are you pretty handy at pc conversions?

2. now that you mention it i do have an led flashlight , obvious import, with a multi switch (strobe, on off etc) that has a main dome 3 led setup(what you would call the regular flashlight part,the end where the light comes out) and on the bottom it has 2 strips of 4 led's (8 total on the 'strip', battery powered.
Now the clinger is it stopped working, but we both know that inside that flashlight is a bunch of plastic filler, a few thin wires and 2-3 electrical "components", those bulbs aren't blown. There are uses to be found ! I'll upload some pics in a few days if i didn't throw that ratty thing away.

And yeah the tape SUCKS but at the same time SAVES your day. You could try those plastic crimp connectors with the metal inside them, but they have had some spotty results for me. I have some old sega game consoles taped to Dirt Devil Ac transformers of similar voltage, The worst part about the wires coming out is if you don't have your voltmeter handy and no colors to identify, you can't just plug them back in and assume ! You might fry some tiny internal capacitor!, been there done that burned a nice little "silhouette" in a heatsink ,



A big point for me is that i want to find what i want to find on the internet, but i don't exactly like google knowing i'm looking for it. I am very cautious about it. I'm cautious about what i say and post on here.

And they can say what they want about drivers, it's alot better to trust an outlet than part of a consumer pc Those are probably the same people who think that "if + and - match and i see 12 on this here black box plug in thingamajig, and 12 on this here fan, it's gonna be working" Then there family gets burned in a fire.
Not to be morbid, but WIRING IS NO JOKE AND IT IS , FOR THE MOST PART, A PRETTY EXACT SCIENCE.

So for me i decided to play it safe and bought me a 160mm 2000rpm plug in fan, in an attempt to keep from having even one "light didn't turn off" or "light didn't come on" type of failure. Not to mention the thought of a terrible fire because of my ATTEMPT at multiwiring pc fans to AC was the main driving force behind that decision.

 

[Neekz]

Hehe sooner you get ta tinkerin, sooner the bud's will fly in ! Now go and rig something together and post plenty of pics ... I wouldn't worry about Google, then again I have no aspirations aside's from growing enough Med's for me and the Mrs... To each his own, if you ain't got anything to hide why worry... It's the ultra-paraniod one's on here who scare me... ....................

 

[Neekz]

7/01 Update

7/01 Update

Hey all, gonna try and be more consistent, doing updates every other day. The mum's are comin along nicely. Been getting stricken with the paranoia of possible males 0.o ! No pre-flowers what so ever at the moment, but the only other strain I grew this much Indy ended up being a fatty male... No fret's tho, any male's welcome for a little blast action on the outdoor going right now for seed-stock... New plan floatin around A.T.M. would be for a nice 1ft sq 12x12" ish square cab, maybe a tent, trying to come up with a price comparison between the cheapest GL40 (or equivalent) I can get, a cabinet, or DIY PVC tent... I then plan on using the U.F.O. to flower out 9 clones Dr.Bud style, 0/min Veg. Theoretical wall wattage (I ain't got no Kill-A-Watt...) is 66w, so with the norm of 1g/W, 66g's / 9 cut's = around 7g's a cut... Theoretically seems very possible, even if it get's only half as much, I will still be stoked... Hows the plan sound guys? Well on with the disco show...

Groupshot...

805 O.G. Kush Top

Blueberry Top

"R T S D" Top

Them 805 Nodes

 

[Neekz]

Blueburry Nodes

"R T S D" Nodes

Clone Cornah...

AK Case...

Poor bastehd's recoverin nicely...

Well, till next time yall, Ima go shred some crete'!

 

[tehmaster]

You mean your gonna hit some crazy manuals brah >!

 

[Neekz]

Haha you guessed it on the money! Long as I got the good vibes, my baby's will too! Skating's another cheap, and rewarding hobby (like horticulture...)!

 

[tehmaster]

Manuals give me the rush i need but keep me humble, coast on brother.
This guy has a thread about a 3 bulb cfl fixture and if it is wired correctly(with pics of course) maybe you could help him/her? https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=266111

 

[Neekz]

Yea I can manny like 3 street block's, so lol kinda has the opposite effect on me ! Always down to help btw, long as your minds willing to follow directions lol!

 

[lazy gardener]

good looking out tehmaster. Id be one hairy bitch if you look at my avatar pic with the effum tat on my leg! once again thanks to the 2's of u's.

 

[tehmaster]

No problem, that's what forums and networks like IC are for, i'm sure we've all gotten some beneficial (ALOT) information from other users on IC and it's always good to give back .

 

[lazy gardener]

very nice younging Neeks. how would a LED do on clones and seedling? and if they work which bulb do you recommend

 

[Neekz]

Hey lazy, lemme tell you, l.e.d. is the way to go! I live in a place where the temps hardly drop under 80 degrees, so running HID you basically NEED an A/C and some genius ventilation. My first dabbles in growin were under c.f.l. so I wont knock em, they allowed me to grow in a situation most other lights made impossible. They were bright, cheap, and efficient. Well now we got L.E.D. , and the science and evidence to back it up. Compare the last 2 updates, you will see that there's quite a bit of growth for 2 days. Aside from grower error these L.E.D. grow some of the most healthiest vigorous plants I have seen! I was hesitant at first, but do a bit o research and youll find the steep initial cost not so painful. I got one of the cheapest reliable solutions I could find, the Blackstar 100Wer, at $135 shipped, a little over $2 a watt. My expectations are for a Veg light/flowering for personal meds. Your needs may be different. Gotham hydro the place that carrys em cheapest, best deal I could find, and I lengthily researched cost of MANY D.I.Y. panels!

 

[Neekz]

And sorry, to shorten my answer, yes their doing great on clones and seedlins!

 

[Neekz]

Hello all, a little late, but better late then never... Got my mind set on picking up a GL40, should have one soon. In the mean time I got a ghetto cardboard 1Sq/ft box setup if I dont have it by the time I take the 9 cut's and they grow leg's. Already running into the slow drying soil prob with L.E.D.'s, these suckers are begging for a dose a GrowBig, but they just take sooo damn looong to dry lol! Another prob I am having (Kind of killing my vigor...) is my wife running the damn A/C at night! 68* steady, even im shivering lol, but better than sleeping in my sweat I guess... Onto the flix...

Group

805 O.G. Kush Top

Blueberry Top

"R T S D" Top

805 O.G. Kush Nodes

 

[Neekz]

Blueberry Nodes

"R T S D" Nodes

Clones, root nubs slowly growin out...

AK Case... Now housing the clones cause it runs hotter...

2 Nirvana AK48xSuper Skunk S1's

Well, thats all folks..

 

[Neekz]

Quick little update. Took some cuts off the top nodes of each mum today. 6 in all. Preppin em for their flowering run. Scored another identical Blackstar for under $100USD, so now there's no worries on a veg setup while I use 1 to bud. Got me sum Black Gold Organic (Mostly peat and wormcastings, been using jiffy peat so far...) and some Perlite, and a nice HD Brinks Mechanical Timer so were all set to get the flowering show goin. Gonna have to hold off on the GL40 for a few weeks unless some lucky turn of events happens (Runs and knocks on wood...)... Here's a few.

Groupshot...

Cut's...

Thick arse root nub...

Well, catch yall sunday! Things shall get interesting soon I promise, and if im boring y'all I could throw up some flicks of the outdoor in the morning (Got a Indy with probably 3 weeks left, just packin on the weight, frosty as funk, and a Satty about 3-4 weeks in... Also the "other" "R T S D" has been veggin out there too, Interesting comparing her to her siblings...)...

 

[Neekz]

Dun Dun Dunnnnn..... Late update ftw lol... Alot going on lately. Plotting a nice and hearty expansion, bigger league (Although ill go on a stretch and make it "micro" ;P !) flowering and all. Got another card holder in the house, so were going for it, goals a QP in a 2'x3' footprint, over it, 120w (Actual watts, doing my research on this one...) L.E.D. probably a blackstar 240 (135w supposedly, 2012 model, their 2013 supposedly are different...). Fixtures about 9"x16", the same size of about 2x4 1gal pot's/bag's. Anybody else think I can pull 14g a cut? a little steep but anything over an ounce and were stoked. Still gonna pull a U.F.O. GL40 run, but not until a bit later when I can afford it. Here's the status...

Fresh out the box ready for clone time...

AK48x's chillin in the sun (I topped em and am now running them 12/12 starting today in my china L.E.D. 10W diode P.C. to see what happens, expecting 2g, well see lol!)...

805 O.G. Kush Tops...

805 O.G. Kush Branching...

"R T S D" Tops...

 

[Neekz]

"R T S D" Branching...

Blueberry Tops...

Blueberry Branching...

After Clone Job...

Nice Amount a Cut's!