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Broad Mites?

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Abzon

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Hey Storm both of these are very good products I have been using them since they came out in my businees. Keep in mind Essentria has no residual effects working as a contact kill only.
Smells great too Vanilla/Mint like odor.
 
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SooperSmurph

It will be nice to see someone else in this market in the US. I would expect for all of them to start seeing import issues. I won't get into that in an open forum though.
There must be labs here in the US making a similar product, we just don't have access to it at this time, or know how to find it :(

There are several brands of single-species beneficials like Met52, maybe some more inquiries with producers will reveal where they're hiding.

Just reading the website and the MSDS, it seems like the Bio-Care and OGBiowar packs are virtually identical, some more details on the product would definitely be helpful, especially if it needs to be differentiated from new competitors.
 
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OrganicOzarks

There must be labs here in the US making a similar product, we just don't have access to it at this time, or know how to find it :(

There are several brands of single-species beneficials like Met52, maybe some more inquiries with producers will reveal where they're hiding.

Just reading the website and the MSDS, it seems like the Bio-Care and OGBiowar packs are virtually identical, some more details on the product would definitely be helpful, especially if it needs to be differentiated from new competitors.

The actual label on the OGBIOWAR package lists 10 different biological controls. The Nutri-care only has 5. I believe that OGBIOWAR does not show all of them on his website due to worry's about copying his mix. However someone can just order a pack, and read the label. Not hard to do.

I believe the production costs in the States are cost prohibitive. That is why we are seeing it made in India, and shipped to the States.

I honestly think that biological controls are going to dominate the organic market. They are retard proof to use, and cheap. As production scales up the costs will drop. Once they get approved for organic production it will be a game changer.

I have been researching different biological for a while, and these type mixes are the best thin that I have seen yet. Once more people start to make these mixes the sky's the limit on what they control.

I had a rotation of 5 different things that I used on my cannabis plants. Now I am just using the foliar pack. It is so easy, and more effective than pyrethrins.

I am sure it will take years for this to catch on, but eventually it will. The problem I see is that the Government is not into importing fungus mixtures from other Countries. The reactions I got on the phone from the USDA, and EPA was like I was asking to import under age sex slaves to whore out in my chain of brothels. :)
 

someone else

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Man the ones I got are really nasty, I have cyclamen not broad btw but I think they're very similar. I treated with avid, forbid with indicate 5, and used triple action neem, I've also been using aspirin. I've knocked them back but it just cant seem to finish them off. I think I'm gonna have to order some grow tents for the heat treatment. Can someone whos successfully done this recomend some space heaters, all the ones I see have auto shut off at those temps.
 
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OrganicOzarks

Man the ones I got are really nasty, I have cyclamen not broad btw but I think they're very similar. I treated with avid, forbid with indicate 5, and used triple action neem, I've also been using aspirin. I've knocked them back but it just cant seem to finish them off. I think I'm gonna have to order some grow tents for the heat treatment. Can someone whos successfully done this recomend some space heaters, all the ones I see have auto shut off at those temps.

OGBIOWAR foliar pack, and they will be gone in 3-4 days. Easy peazy.
 
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OrganicOzarks

for what he charges, i sure as hell hope it's a dry product.

hey OO, you know the dilution ratio for the stuff?

20 grams per gallon of water. A kilo will make 50 gallons of foliar. At about $94 delivered per kilo that is only $1.88 per gallon.

Pretty cheap in my book. I have dropped using everything else so it has saved me money.
 

sunset limited

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20 grams per gallon of water. A kilo will make 50 gallons of foliar. At about $94 delivered per kilo that is only $1.88 per gallon.

Pretty cheap in my book. I have dropped using everything else so it has saved me money.

direct on their site a kg is $135+
where are you looking?
 

bubbler720

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You should not be seeing eggs on tops of leaves, and you should be seeing dead BMs after treatment. Perhaps the "eggs" you are seeing are trichomes? Eggs normally found only on bottoms of leaves.
At any rate, after all those poisons, you should be seeing dead BMs and marked improvement.
Do you have pictures of any eggs? If so, post.
Personally, I wouldn't waste my time or money on all these toxins when a single heat treatment will kill everything. They don't get resistant to heat, and 120 degrees =toast. Nothing but dead BMs.
But to each his own.

Got the sweet celestron LCD scope. for all the pics to follow, the following was applied:
1. 2x heat treatments approx month ago
2. several avid/forbid apps; 3x neem; other chems
3. pred mites this past friday - and more mañana

all of these have helped -- compared to my orig pics the ladies look great. but still eggs everywhere = BMs from PO and/or super BMs... clones root but don't grow. mom's stunted. week 3 of 12/12 and diminished pistols = stunted

preview: got pics of: top leaf eggs, meristem bumps/eggs, dead adults, stunted 12/12, prevalent egg infestation

EGGS TOP LEAF - VEG


EGGS bottom


MERISTEM new growth shoot #1

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bubbler720

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"fighting BMs from PO is an uphill battle to the end" yep finding this out the hard expensive way. never thrown out so many ladies... more pred mites coming - if the duds in week 3 can be saved it may save my summer.

besides that all clones looking stunted/contaminated (despite multiple dips). new seeds arrived!!!! i do not want to risk getting the fresh babes anywhere near the old withered bitches. torching and starting fresh looks to be the way to go
 

RetroGrow

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Got the sweet celestron LCD scope. for all the pics to follow, the following was applied:
1. 2x heat treatments approx month ago
2. several avid/forbid apps; 3x neem; other chems
3. pred mites this past friday - and more mañana

all of these have helped -- compared to my orig pics the ladies look great. but still eggs everywhere = BMs from PO and/or super BMs... clones root but don't grow. mom's stunted. week 3 of 12/12 and diminished pistols = stunted

preview: got pics of: top leaf eggs, meristem bumps/eggs, dead adults, stunted 12/12, prevalent egg infestation

EGGS TOP LEAF - VEG
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EGGS bottom
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MERISTEM new growth shoot #1
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#2
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#3
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The ones on top and a lot of the other ones look like trichomes, not eggs. Eggs are oval shaped and don't have the "tails".
 

talktosamson

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Ordered today, going to switch this out with my current spray schedule and see what happans. No current signs of broad mites, just to be safe though, those bitches are around right now.
 
My first grow ever and I too am suffering from this plague. 3 of 9 plants show signs of infection. I literally chopped my blue dream down to half it's size to rid of the twisted new growth and drenched the living hell out of them with Nukem. I have also ordered OGBiowar root/foliar spray. I hope I can salvage something. From what I hear at the local grow shop this is rampant through my parts outdoors. THE BORG SUCKS. If I figure out a miracle cure Ill check back in. Until then Ill keep reading. PEACE OUT.
 

nofriend

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Biowar: Nute Foilar and Root

I have been brewing Aerated vermicompost tea with the biowar line for about 9 months now. I originally bought Biowar because some had touted it as a cure to root aphids. My root aphids were not effected. Nematodes and keeping the soil moist cured my RA. I am happy that since I started using teas, I no longer have fungus gnats. I still use biowar because I still have plenty. I do not know if I will order it again. I believe that high quality wormcastings and properly prepared ACT will work be effective without biowar.

I have not tried spraying with the tea recently.
 
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