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UFO on Earth according to Defence Prime Minister WTF?

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
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Sure if you go to the middle east you will find actual things from the bible. I have done this once when in Africa, travelling as far north as Alexandria. Many sites standing from pre-Christ era, and some of them superbly preserved. So this far I will agree with what you are saying, that indeed many things in the bible are real, and proof is available.

What I can also tell you is that to get that close to Biblical sites also reinforces whatever level you choose to believe before seeing the proof. Sure if you are a deep believer then now you are really convinced with actual proof of everything you have read. But if you don't believe the bible beyond the everyday ordinary truths contained, then you become even more skeptical. They want to sell you a map of where Jesus was born in every town for 30 miles. Special tours of extra holy sites, with tales of saints giving blessings, a piece of the robe from the actual saint... the spot where the angel spoke to Michael... the holy lands are awash with tourism surrounding the Bible, and they certainly ad creed to the fact that much in the bible is highly exaggerated or totally falsified to inspire belief.


sure, I can agree with that.

this is why I quoted the other guy's part of the post specifically dealing with history in the old testament; now, since we can verify archeologically speaking that many events from such narrative actually happened, it should not mean that all info contained is literally truth.

however, we can indeed go to such book and help ourselves with relevant historical information that has been already proven to be accurate, which was my point basically, as opposed the other guy's point.

peace!
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
I never said that the history in the Bible is wrong. On the contrary, I know much of it is accurate (and also much of it isnt). But, like I actually went on to say, there is nothing in the Bible that you can't get from somewhere else, somewhere else that isn't tainted.

You prove that by listing archaeology. So we can actually go and dig it up and get real empirical evidence, or we can just read some ancient text and pick and choose what's real and what's not by sifting through all the shit.

I've actually studied archaeology at a university level, so I know exactly how accurate the Bible is in its depiction of history, and how flawed it is. It can be used as a guide at the very beginning of the process. That's it.


your assessment of the bible is flawed, as it is not an archeological book, nor a science book, thus, it does not intend to offer us empirical evidence of archeological and scientific matters.

therefore, claiming that you have to 'sift through all the shit' in order to get the accurate info is an irrelevant argument.

the bible, or at least the old testament, is a book on Hebrew mythology, and here understand the word mythology like Nietzsche and Hegel did; philosophy narrated in poetical form; it is a book that can only be understood through heavy hermeneutics, plain and simple. trying to use it as a literal guide to archeological or scientific empiricism is more than the term categorical error can describe.

peace
 

HUGE

Active member
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Try ans rhinkbof the bible like a poem or a song. Read literally it can appear one way. But if you have eyes to see and ears to hear you can faintly pick out rhe real picture that is being hidden by the crude language we have.
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
I did get it right I said ''dinosaurs appeared before birds''
can you not read? you need to read if your gonna call me out.

birds evolved from dinosaurs.... they are not dinosaurs. do you understand scientific classifications? hence why dinosaurs were reptiles birds are Avialae.

I think your taking the webpage headline of your link too literally. google evolution..

You actually have this wrong!!!! lol.
Birds are descendance from dinosaurs Take a look at the skeleton and then get back to me about what that looks like to you ..
I don't know how this conversation turned to this but here ya go ..

http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...ot-chr-gcmac&va=bird+descendants+of+dinosaurs
 
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draco

as there are hundreds of billions of GALAXIES with many billions of suns in each one, the chances of EVERYTHING HAVING AN EXACT DUPLICATE APPROACHES 1.0.

or another way of saying it-

as we approach infinity, the chances of EXACT duplicates also approaches 1.0.

so it's not a question of IF they are out there.

i guess most peeps haven't moved through the "introduction to the universe 101"... first rule - get over yourself!
 

foomar

Luddite
ICMag Donor
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it's not a question of IF they are out there.

Once you accept that we are not unique by the will of some god , and everything since the big bang/creation is a natural and eventually comprehendible progression , then advanced life elsewhere is inevitable if vanishingly rare.

Problem i have is if any two such species that reach the level of moveing off homeworld would ever interact across time and space , how many last long or spread very far.

Will we last a million years as a species , which is a short time on this scale , or never recover from some ELE and just fade away , we were lucky to get this far.

A chinese flag on mars could be our limit , unless there are yet to be discovered shortcuts to current physics , there will be no commerce or trade to drive it .
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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I have a friend who is a strong believer in all that Billy Meier stuff which for those who don't know is one man's accounting of being contacted by aliens multiple time in multiple ways over an extended period of time. Anyway and I find this rather interesting but according to my friend's understanding of all the information supposedly to come from that the thing these Aliens are most interested in with us is our concept of religion. According to my friend there was one time where an alien accounted to Billy Meier about how a race of peaceful aliens took the concept of religion back home and that at some point not to long after another race of aliens checked up on this race that brought back religion and found that it had nearly wiped itself out to the point of extinction shortly after adopting the practice of religion.
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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You actually have this wrong!!!! lol.
Birds are descendance from dinosaurs Take a look at the skeleton and then get back to me about what that looks like to you ..
I don't know how this conversation turned to this but here ya go ..

http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...ot-chr-gcmac&va=bird+descendants+of+dinosaurs

No im not wrong. Birds did evolve from dinosaurs. That means that birds are the decendants of dinosaurs. Same thing although birds are not dinosaurs. They evolved very differently. Birds are warm blooded for example.

Lol
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
No im not wrong. Birds did evolve from dinosaurs. That means that birds are the decendants of dinosaurs. Same thing although birds are not dinosaurs. They evolved very differently. Birds are warm blooded for example.

Lol


Hence the word evolved lol.. Like what we are trying to do right now headband 707:biggrin:
 

skullznroses

that aint nothing but 10 cent lovin
Veteran
sure, I can agree with that.

this is why I quoted the other guy's part of the post specifically dealing with history in the old testament; now, since we can verify archeologically speaking that many events from such narrative actually happened, it should not mean that all info contained is literally truth.

however, we can indeed go to such book and help ourselves with relevant historical information that has been already proven to be accurate, which was my point basically, as opposed the other guy's point.

peace!

well Id go straight up Joyoseph witness bible if you want to worship the works of man. lol. Ive talked to lots of people in lobbys over the years man. Right ON. Glad to hear yer testimonial.

All I gotta say is I get my history from a desperately different place that I get my bible on. bat country yall whatver
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
yes hence my original post lol. I dunno what your getting at but you basically said I was wrong then reiterated the same thing I already said lol... (post 97)


How the fuck did I end up talking on your post you mean I think it had something to do with this comment:. "they are not dinosaurs. do you understand scientific classifications? hence why dinosaurs were reptiles birds are Avialae.,,,, "What I am getting at,,,, lol does it really matter? headband 707:biggrin:
 

headband 707

Plant whisperer
Veteran
well Id go straight up Joyoseph witness bible if you want to worship the works of man. lol. Ive talked to lots of people in lobbys over the years man. Right ON. Glad to hear yer testimonial.

All I gotta say is I get my history from a desperately different place that I get my bible on. bat country yall whatver

Let us not forget that the bible story is repeated in history at least 25 times!! So like the truth of today the info is slanted at best headband 707:)
 

WelderDan

Well-known member
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Stoner thought for the day.

What if Aliens aren't extraterrestrial? Like what if there from here, man? Hiding in the Ocean
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
Stoner thought for the day.

What if Aliens aren't extraterrestrial? Like what if there from here, man? Hiding in the Ocean


that's kind of a subject in a rare book written in french translated as The Morning of the Magicians, that deals with the understanding of science according to the Nazi status-quo.

some of the beliefs held by them was of a sub-species of humans who dwell in a different geography of the earth and that have much more advanced technology.

nazis also believed in the hollow earth theory and had all kinds of scientific proofs to support their views.

quite an entertaining read to say the least.

peace
 
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