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Cheapo 9W LED Ikea Trashbin Grow - GHS Super Bud

tebos

Member
The LEDs are doing great as veg light, a lot of branchy stretch, huge improvement to the CFL before.

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As you can see, the neutral white XM-L adds a lot of blue to the light and is probably the reason for the enourmous growth - I have to hurry now because the plant is actually getting too tall too fast, so I ran her 17/7 today and will decrease the light cycle further till 12/12 is reached (thursday).

I'll add some new pictures tomorrow, after prun- and wiring some of the new branches.
 

tebos

Member
So here is the promised update and a picture of the plant in it's natural state.

Before:
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After having gotten rid off the two yellow leafs and more wiring:

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I hope to be able to fill the right side of the pot a bit more with the additional wiring but you can see clearly that the main growth is happening in the stem, the perfect SOG phenotype :D

Sadly I broke a branch when adding wire yesterday and another one today, the branches weren't completly cut off so I wrapped some bandaid tightly around them. The one from yesterday is definitely recovering, I hope the same happens with the mistake from today.

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tebos

Member
The LEDs added a lot of height and branching, the difference is huuuge from before. I hope you can see the stretch, branching and nice overall growth in the following pictures:

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Yesterday I ran her 15/9 and tomorrow I'll flip her to 12/12. Let the flowering begin!
 

NKOTS

follow the pink rabbit!
Veteran
wow, now this is a good looking plant you got there, tebos! :good:

i am sure this is the effect of:
1. bigger pot
2. more light

well done, looks really promising!

you will avoid risk of breaking the branches if you train them while in need of water. the branches are less sturdy then. avoid these actions straight after watering!

fingers crossed for a female! :biggrin:
 

tebos

Member
Here's another batch of pictures! Flowering day 7.

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The shoelaces are for lowering the pot into the bin and vice versa.

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The brown spot in the middle of the picture (right next to the wire) is where the stem broke, they all healed properly and the plant is doing great.

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A closeup of the excessive wiring I do :D The plant is growing really fast and due to my working schedule I couldn't do as much maintainance as I wished I could, at the moment the size is manageable.
The plant's now getting the full dosage of fertilizer (half before).

Is there a rule of thumb when to expect the first preflowering signs?

Edit: forgot the most important part, I'm supplementing CO2 from now on (yeast+sugar).
 

tebos

Member
Ok, I'm having some problems with the health of the plant.

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This looks like some kind of nute burn, this is the only leaf with this kind of burn.

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The tips of the leaf are yellowing, again it's the only one of its kind.

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A LOT of the leafs share those cuts/holes/bitemarks or whatever those are, maybe some kind of pest? But I didn't see anything and I looked thoroughly at the whole plant. Those cuts have been there some time, I thought that it was my doing when wiring the plant but this is definitely not the case.

Any ideas? Should I open another thread in the Infirmary board?
 

NKOTS

follow the pink rabbit!
Veteran
hmmm i can only see one little hole - how many leaves are actually affected?
looks a little bit like some insect's job but don't quote me on that as i am a noob in pest control (never had any issues with them luckily).

besides you said you switched to 100% nute dosage - so maybe come back to pure water for 2 or 3 waterings and see if this helps?

as for preflowers - this may vary. in my case the Hot Mix showed sex after 10 days but the ChemdogDD-x-SourDiesel ibl showed it after 20+ days...
i would expect some signs between 2nd and 3rd week of bloom.
 

Neekz

Member
I got the same things Tebos, I wrote it off as Nute caused, being that I have always fed them since first true set of leaf. As long as its older growth, and the new growth isn't affected, I would continue feeding them (even small dosage) as the new growth's a bit light. Again if new growth get's funky like that, or the holes get worse, then flush a bit for the next couple waterings as NKOT's suggested! Looking good so far! That's gonna be one full rubbish can full-o-buds!
 

tebos

Member
Ah, thanks! I almost forgot that I used fresh soil for the repotting, this and the full fertilizer mix is probably causing this. I'll lay low for a while with the fertilizing.

Repped ofc.
 

tebos

Member
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First hairs showing up, I'm watering with tap water for the next few days. Removed some smallish leaves on the bottom and wire on the main stem. No major changes.

Flowering day 12.
 
K

kiwi_growa

Congrats on the girl!

Really impressed with the way you train your plants man, i can tell you put a lot of time into that and that will pay off in time. Keep them pictures coming! Im enjoying this grow a lot.
 

NKOTS

follow the pink rabbit!
Veteran
hi tebos, great to hear it is a lady :biggrin:

and she has a nice green healhy looks! kepp growing.
 

tebos

Member
Thank you, kiwi and nkots. It isn't that suprising, given the fact that the seeds are feminized :D However, I read about problems with hermaphrodites in late flowering stages with this strain, hopefully it won't happen to me *knockonwood*
 

NKOTS

follow the pink rabbit!
Veteran
oh yes i guess i asked before already :bashhead:
all these threads, all these cabs, boxes and armoires... ;)
 
K

kiwi_growa

Hiya, If you look at the first picture in post no. 62 you'll notice the tips of the leaves are burnt, this usually happens with over-fertilization. The pictures down the page show the new growth being quite light green/yellow. I'm wondering if this could be Nutrient burn? Seeing as she was showing signs of it not so long ago...That is something you want to get on top of fast because it can set you back a good week or two if you let it get beyond a certain point.

Don't take this message the wrong way, just some constructive criticism. I love what you've done with your plant and how you have trained her so neatly. Would be a shame to jeopardize her harvest over a nutrient burn.
 

tebos

Member
Your post is very appreciated (esp. with this being my first grow) but the leaves only look yellowish because the picture was taken with the lights right above them :)
The plant has a nice dark green and looks healthy despite of the small holes and the light burn at the tipps, I think it didn't overdoe it that much to have it ruined.

Edit: okay, just looked up post 62, those are the old 3 bladed leaves (which I later removed), not sure if the plant wanted to get rid off them or if they were the first sign of overfertilization. Thanks for pointing this out.
 
K

kiwi_growa

Removing the affected leaves wont solve the problem. Recognize the problem and fix it rather than hide it. I agree that the plants look very lush and have a beautiful dark green color to them, that's usually how most plants look right before minor nutrient burn. And you're right, you didn't overdo it too much to have ruined it - Far from it tebos. The nutrient burn im seeing is nothing major at all and i bet ya a lot of experienced growers get tiny nute burnt tips like that all the time!

By the way, i don't think you're looking at the same problem as I. I am looking at mainly the 7 bladed leaf in the first picture of post #62. The one thats sort of closest to the camera(it's one of the nice dark green leaves), if you look at the very tips of each of the fingers on that leaf you'll see the very point of the tip is yellow. That's why i said to look carefully because a lot of growers would skim their eyes over that and not see it as a problem. It's not major nute burn, but it is nutrient burn. If you want i can edit the picture and put circles around the tips to make it easier to see but i'm pretty sure you'll be able to spot what i mean.

EDIT : I don't want to over-complicate things for you, being your first grow and all. The problem has probably gone by now, but i just thought it would be great for you to know what to look out for in the future. Being able to spot minor nutrient burn is a huge advantage, especially to beginners who don't always have the tools like a PPM meter stuff. Don't be too concerned about your plants, they dont need IMMEDIATE attention. Just next time you water maybe pull back on the nutrients a bit, let her grow bigger and then slowly up the nutrients by very small amounts each watering. Once you notice the tips burning like that again, pull back on the nutrients accordingly until you don't see the tips burning.

When your got a few harvests under your belt and your rolling i suggest you invest in a PPM meter, this will save a lot of time in the process of trying to figure out what your plant needs.
 
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