U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

[floralheart]

Ah man, they're from the gubment. And they are here to help!!
On a side note, I wish that fucker Lindsey Graham, who really should finally come out the gay closet, would die a slow miserable death. He basically said "if ya aren't doing anything wrong why would he care if they look at his phone record." Typical old school republican mindset.
My question is why the fuck are they looking to see if I'm doing anything wrong if my activity isn't indicating any wrong doing?
Fuckem. Fuckem all.

He isn't gay.


He's fabulous.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

How many people do you think you could reasonably keep track of simultaneously and not miss a thing?

Yes, maybe today it isn't feasible with the man power required, but tomorrow is not too far off. Quantum computing, artificial neural networks, and advanced AI could all help to narrow the manpower required for a total surveillance state to a select few. That's one problem, the rules of the game are changing too quickly to keep up.

 

[SpasticGramps]

How many people do you think you could reasonably keep track of simultaneously and not miss a thing? Now based on that how many people would you need to employ to keep track of approximately 350 Million people?

I think you are missing the larger point. The fact that they record all of our (350mil people in the US alone) information by default is what's important. They could care less about the 349,900,000 peasants daily happenings. The power can be leveraged against anyone that poses a threat to the totalitarian agenda through blackmail and extortion.

"Oh, Mr. Senator, you don't want to vote for the Patriot Act? You think it is a a tyrannical piece of legislation? What would your wife say about you screwing Ms. So and So and what would the public think about your offshore bank accounts? Oh, you are going to vote for it. Why thank you so much."

Naivety would be the only reason someone believes that such extraordinary power as this is not leveraged as such in a system as completely corrupt as ours.

The reality is they have everything in place but they're still a long ways from exploiting it the way people are starting to fear.

Governments don't care about you and me. We are easy pawns to control and not worth the time. The power lies in controlling the power brokers. That is not a long ways away. That is and has been here for a long time. That's the reality IMO.

 

[idiit]

Experts on the Left and the Right Agree: America Is Running the World’s Largest Terrorist Operation

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/...nning-the-worlds-largest-terrorist-operation/

the shadow government is also the world's largest drug cartel and child porn cartel and largest sex slave cartel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world...reports-cia-working-with-mexican-drug-cartels

http://www.examiner.com/article/is-the-cia-working-with-the-drug-cartels

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=cia+drug+cartel

http://www.cannabisculture.com/cont...g-Cartel-Mexican-Official-Blames-CIA-Drug-War
nobody forget col. ollie north, cia cocaine, cintra rebels, la's "freeway ricky williams". some are in denial 'cause they don't want to deal with it.

afghanistan's opium product is over 10x what it was before the us liberated and took control of this sovereign nation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Production_in_Afghanistan

http://news.yahoo.com/un-afghan-opium-production-increases-081638728.html

http://www.spreadlibertynews.com/opium-production-in-afghanistan-to-rise-in-2013-u-n-report-2/

nsa, virtual quadtrillions of us$ printed out of thin air, britan and america's military might ( as well as nations aligned with them) and the asleeples apathy are among their arsenal of wmd's.

it is about the future generations; kids, grandkids.

this shit is global.

 

[SpasticGramps]

America is certainly the greatest threat to the world. Has been for a while. We've funded and armed extremeist for decades. We're funding and arming Wahabist extremist in Syria now.

We are the mega terrorist state perpetually in need of war and death.

 

[Green lung]

I'm headed to the beach......what are you guys up to?







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[HempKat]

I think you are missing the larger point. The fact that they record all of our (350mil people in the US alone) information by default is what's important. They could care less about the 349,900,000 peasants daily happenings. The power can be leveraged against anyone that poses a threat to the totalitarian agenda through blackmail and extortion.

"Oh, Mr. Senator, you don't want to vote for the Patriot Act? You think it is a a tyrannical piece of legislation? What would your wife say about you screwing Ms. So and So and what would the public think about your offshore bank accounts? Oh, you are going to vote for it. Why thank you so much."

Naivety would be the only reason someone believes that such extraordinary power as this is not leveraged as such in a system as completely corrupt as ours.

Governments don't care about you and me. We are easy pawns to control and not worth the time. The power lies in controlling the power brokers. That is not a long ways away. That is and has been here for a long time. That's the reality IMO.

Yeah but who is this "they" you are talking about? I mean "they" don't need wiretaps to leverage politicians when it's interactions with "they" that might be used to blackmail the politicians. In other words if I'm one of the powers that be, that wants the cooperation of a senator, I don't need a wiretap, or to hack into their email account to extort that politician. I can probably just use the footage from the security camera in the corporate jet I flew the senator to the Caribbean in, showing him diddling the stewardess. Why should I risk causing a peasant revolt and spend all the money to setup the thing that might cause the revolt, when I got more then enough dirt readily on hand to leverage the politicians? The people that make up "they" have power from wealth and they didn't get that power by spending money on something they don't really need.

 

[gaiusmarius]

being the sole superpower in the world for all those years after the USSR collapsed was not really healthy for the American nation. it made it too easy to become the school yard bully of the world. now with China rising and Russia back to a stronger stance, the US will have to start to cool it again a bit, otherwise there is a real danger of starting another world war.

the old saying about power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely is 100% right!

 

[HempKat]

Isn't this typical. For decades the media has been warning us that the Republicans would trample on our Bill Of Rights while liberal administrations proceed to do just that and then claim amnesia. Nobody knows who is responsible. I do.

Barack Hussein Obama

Start with getting rid of that rock-chucking, community organizing shitbird and go from there.

No, it was the republicans that trampled on our bill of rights. What the liberal admininstrations like Obama's have amnesia about is that they campaigned as the ones to protect and restore those rights.

 

[dagnabit]

If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.

Bipartisan effort destroyed our civil rights. Just check the voting records.
I find it astounding people still think that the two parties are anything more than a distraction..

 

[resinryder]

HK, the republicans couldn't have done this by themselves and gotten away with it. If they had the dems would have been shouting it to the world. Both are complicit and up to their eyeballs in trampling the bill of rights and that pesky little constitution thingy.

 

[HempKat]

HK, the republicans couldn't have done this by themselves and gotten away with it. If they had the dems would have been shouting it to the world. Both are complicit and up to their eyeballs in trampling the bill of rights and that pesky little constitution thingy.

I know, and I didn't say they did it all by themselves I'm just pointing out it actually did start under a Republican Administration. Like I also said though, once the Democrats got in power they conveniently forgot to do anything about it even though they promised to.

Like I said before, the whole red vs blue thing is just a tool being used to pacify the masses. It gives them someone to point a finger at so they can get outraged and then vote for the other party next election. We should start to learn there is no Red vs Blue, Repbulican vs Democrat, Conservative vs Liberal, insert whatever vs insert whatever. All there is are politicians and the money pulling their strings vs the general public.

 

[dagnabit]

Btw Jackson was a "democrat" and sacrificing freedom for security in these states united truly began with him. The enemy was red not brown but the principles were the same.
Lincoln was the worst up till Nixon. Bush beat nix but Barry o trumps em all!

 

[gaiusmarius]

before we get back to making this the fault of the blues or the reds again, lets not forget that echelon is older then Bush jr. further more do you think a dem pres would have acted any differently had he had the WH during 911? i say acted, not talked? no man, a dem pres would have gone with the patriot act too. it was the perfect opportunity to go into high gear with their total awareness programs that they have been inching towards since the 60s. so while a dem pres during 911 might have sounded different on tv, his actions would have amounted to the same thing.

this is easy to understand when you look at the dem pres who is in charge while those programs get even bigger and less transparent, lets not mention assassinations without due process and without even knowing all the targets. if he is not for this stuff or letting himself be blackmailed to agree, then why would he not do the same back after 911?

 

[HempKat]

We really shouldn't be looking at the President anyway, he doesn't make laws he only signs them into being. Really though it's not even the politicians we should be looking at and blaming, they're just the puppets of the people that funded their campaigns to get them elected.

 

[resinryder]

Like I said before, the whole red vs blue thing is just a tool being used to pacify the masses.

Absolutely. Nothing more than a system to divide and conquer. And it's been working like a well oiled machine for a long time. Damn shame that even after this, 11/4/14 will bring more of the same. Sheeple apparently love to be fed a steady diet of bullshit and denial.

 

[trichrider]

Administration of Barack Obama (2009-Present)

Disposition of Executive orders signed by President Barack Obama:
Subject Index


2009 - E.O. 13489 - E.O. 13527 (39 Executive orders issued)
2010 - E.O. 13528 - E.O. 13562 (35 Executive orders issued)
2011 - E.O. 13563 - E.O. 13596 (34 Executive orders issued)
2012 - E.O. 13597 - E.O. 13635 (39 Executive orders issued)
2013 - E.O. 13636 - E.O. 13642 (7 Executive orders issued)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

154 Total Executive orders Issued

NOTE: The total number of Executive orders issued for each administration includes number-and-letter designated orders, such as 9577-A, 9616-A, etc.

 

[bentom187]

John McCain Promises "Most Militarized Border Since the Fall of the Berlin Wall"

Bear in mind as you read this: John McCain is trying to argue for the amendment.

I don't want a holiday in the sun.James GillSen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday said that an amendment advanced by the Senate would leave the U.S. with the "most militarized border" since the fall of the Berlin Wall and pave the way for the passage of comprehensive immigration reform.

"The legislation concerning beefed up border security removes any validity to the argument that border security is not sufficient," McCain said of the amendment from Sens. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and John Hoeven (R-N.D.) in an interview on CNN.

"I mean this is not only sufficient it is well over sufficient. We'll be the most militarized border since the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's why I think this amendment was very important," he added.

I realize he's saying this with a bit of exasperation. (You want a goddamn Berlin Wall to pass this bill? Fine! Here's a Berlin Wall!) But that doesn't make it more acceptable—just more cynical.

Ron Paul "Border Fence May Be Used to Keep Us In"
[YOUTUBEIF]nyadBzWalE4[/YOUTUBEIF]

 

[opiumo]

BBC Horizon Documentary: Era of big data

BBC Horizon Documentary: Era of big data

BBC Horizon Documentary: Era of big data

[YOUTUBEIF]http://youtu.be/pSErZwmT714[/YOUTUBEIF]


http://youtu.be/pSErZwmT714

 

[Tudo]

Putin: Edward Snowden in Moscow airport but will not be extradited

Russian president confirms NSA whistleblower is in Moscow airport transit lounge but refuses US calls for cooperation

Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, where Edward Snowden is in transit, according to Vladimir Putin. Photograph: Bobylev Sergei/Itar-Tass Photo/Corbis
The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, has revealed that the surveillance whistleblower Edward Snowden is indeed in a Moscow airport, bringing an end to a global guessing game over the US fugitive's whereabouts.
The admission reversed days of Russian obfuscation and came just hours after Putin's foreign minister said Russia had nothing to do with Snowden's travel plans.
Putin said Snowden remained in the transit area of Sheremetyevo airport and vowed that Moscow would not extradite the whistleblower to the US. He also insisted Russian security services had no contact with Snowden, a claim greeted with suspicion.
"Mr Snowden really did fly into Moscow," Putin said during an official visit to Finland on Tuesday. "For us it was completely unexpected."
Snowden fled Hong Kong on Sunday morning to transit via Moscow to an undisclosed third country, according to WikiLeaks, which said it facilitated his travel. He has applied to be granted political asylum by Ecuador.
Putin said Snowden remained in Sheremetyevo's transit hall, although the high-profile whistleblower has not been spotted once by the dozens of journalists swarming the airport's halls since Sunday. The airport has also hosted a heightened security service presence since Sunday afternoon.
Putin said Russia's security services "did not work and are not working" with Snowden. Snowden fled the United States before leaking documents on secret US surveillance programmes. The US has charged him under the Espionage Act.
Putin defended Russia's actions and said Snowden, possibly carrying untold amounts of government secrets, was treated like any other passenger. Yet passengers transiting through Sheremetyevo are usually given 24 hours to pass through the international transit zone.
"He arrived as a transit passenger – he didn't need a visa, or other documents," Putin said. The statement appeared to back up comments made previously by his foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, who insisted that Snowden "did not cross the Russian border" but did not comment on whether he was at the airport.
The US has urged Moscow to hand Snowden over. Speaking in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, John Kerry, the US secretary of state, said: "I would simply appeal for calm and reasonableness. We would hope that Russia would not side with someone who is a fugitive from justice."
Putin appeared to lash out at US accusations that the Kremlin was harbouring a fugitive. "Any accusations against Russia are nonsense and rubbish," Putin said.
Putin also appeared to throw his support behind Snowden as well as the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, currently holed up at Ecuador's embassy in London.
"Assange and Snowden consider themselves human rights activists and say they are fighting for the spread of information," Putin said. "Ask yourself this: should you hand these people over so they will be put in prison?
"In any case, I'd rather not deal with such questions, because anyway it's like shearing a pig – lots of screams but little wool."
After leaking documents that exposed the breadth of the US surveillance state, Snowden has come under fire for seeking shelter in China and Russia, both accused of clamping down on citizens' freedoms.
Speaking earlier on Tuesday, Lavrov stressed that Russia was not involved in helping Snowden plan his travels: "I would like to say right away that we have no relation to either Mr Snowden or to his relationship with American justice or to his movements around the world."
"He chose his route on his own, and we found out about it, as most here did, from mass media," said Lavrov, lashing out angrily at suggestions that Russia was involved. "We consider the attempts we are now seeing to blame the Russian side for breaking US laws and being almost in on the plot totally baseless and unacceptable, and even an attempt to threaten us," he said.
China's top state newspaper earlier praised Snowden for "tearing off Washington's sanctimonious mask" and rejected accusations that Beijing had facilitated his departure from Hong Kong.
The strongly worded front-page commentary in the overseas edition of the People's Daily, the official newspaper of the Chinese Communist party, responded to harsh criticism of China from the US for allowing Snowden to flee.
The Chinese government has said it is gravely concerned by Snowden's allegations that the US has hacked into many networks in Hong Kong and China, including Tsinghua University, which hosts one of the country's internet hubs, and Chinese mobile network companies. It said it had taken the issue up with Washington.
"Not only did the US authorities not give us an explanation and apology, it instead expressed dissatisfaction at the Hong Kong special administrative region for handling things in accordance with law," wrote Wang Xinjun, a researcher at the Academy of Military Science in the People's Daily commentary.
"In a sense, the United States has gone from a 'model of human rights' to 'an eavesdropper on personal privacy', the 'manipulator' of the centralised power over the international internet, and the mad 'invader' of other countries' networks," the People's Daily said.
The White House said allowing Snowden to leave was "a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive despite a valid arrest warrant, and that decision unquestionably has a negative impact on the US-China relationship".
The People's Daily, which reflects the thinking of the government, said China could not accept "this kind of dissatisfaction and opposition".
"The world will remember Edward Snowden," the newspaper said. "It was his fearlessness that tore off Washington's sanctimonious mask".
The exchanges mark a deterioration in ties between the two countries just weeks after a successful summit meeting between presidents Barack Obama and Xi Jinping. But experts say Washington is unlikely to resort to any punitive action.
A commentary in the Global Times, owned by the People's Daily, also attacked the US for cornering "a young idealist who has exposed the sinister scandals of the US government".
"Instead of apologising, Washington is showing off its muscle by attempting to control the whole situation," the Global Times said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/25/edward-snowden-moscow-vladimir-putin