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U.S. Government spying on entire U.S., to nobody's surprise

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bentom187

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British spy agency has access to global communications, shares info with NSA

The British spy agency GCHQ has access to the global network of communications, storing calls, Facebook posts and internet histories – and shares this data with the NSA, Edward Snowden has revealed to the Guardian in a new leak.

GCHQ’s network of cables is able to process massive quantities of information from both specific targets and completely innocent people, including recording phone calls and reading email messages, it was revealed on Friday.

"It's not just a US problem. The UK has a huge dog in this fight," Snowden told the Guardian. "They [GCHQ] are worse than the US."



Edward Snowden (AFP Photo)
Edward Snowden (AFP Photo)


The Government Communications Headquarters agency has two different programs, aimed at carrying out this online and telephone monitoring – categorized under ‘Mastering the Internet’ and ‘Global Telecoms Exploitation.’ Both have been conducted in the absence of any public knowledge, reports the Guardian.

“If you remember, even the NSA said that they did not record phone calls, but according to these latest revelations by Edward Snowden, that up to ‘600 million’ telephone events last year were recorded a day by the GCHQ,” said RT’s Tesa Arcilla from London.

“There’s no doubt as to what the objectives of these programs were, having put them in place,” she said, emphasizing the titles.


The agency is able to store the volumes of data it amasses from fiber-optic cables for up to 30 days in an operation codenamed Tempora. The practice has been going on for around 18 months.

GCHQ which was handling 600m telephone ‘events’ a day, according to the documents, had tapped into over 200 fiber-optic cables and had the capacity to analyze data from over 46 of them at a time.

The cables used by GCHQ can carry data at 10 gigabits per second, which in theory, means they could deliver up to 21petabytes of information per day. The program is continuing to develop on a daily basis with the agency aiming to expand to the point it is able to process terabits (thousands of gigabits) of data at once.

“This appears to be dangerously close to, if not exactly, the centralised database of all our internet communications, including some content, that successive Governments have ruled out and Parliament has never legislated for,” said Nick Pickles of UK privacy campaign group Big Brother Watch.

By May last year, some 300 GCHQ-assigned analysts and 250 from the NSA had been specially allocated large quantities of data to trawl through as a result of the operations.

The Guardian reports that 850,000 NSA and outside contractors had potential access to the databases. However, the paper does not explain how it came to such an enormous figure

“These revelations reveal the scale of and the scope of cooperation between UK and US intelligence services,” said RT’s Gayane Chichakyan from Washington. “From these revelations we learned how dramatically it has expanded over the years.”

“The document shows the FISA court lets the NSA use data snagged ‘inadvertently.’ They basically give a warrant to target suspects,” she said, recalling Lieutenant General Keith Alexander's quote after a 2008 visit to the Menwith RAF base in England: "Why can't we collect all the signals all the time? Sounds like a good summer project for Menwith," he had said.

The GCHQ project was first trialed in 2008. The intelligence organization has been labeled an ‘intelligence superpower’ on account of its technical capabilities, which by 2010 gave it the strongest access to internet communications out of the ‘Five Eyes’ – an international intelligence sharing alliance, including Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK and US, brought into existence in 1946.


The mass-surveillance has seen the interception of data from transatlantic cables that also carry data to western Europe through ‘intercept partners’ commercial companies that had entered into private agreements with GCHQ. Many have been paid off for their cooperation.

GCHQ feared that exposure of the names of the companies involved could lead to “high-level political fallout,” and took measures to ensure names were kept secret. Warrants had reportedly been issued to compel the companies to cooperate so that GCHQ could engage in spying through them.

“They have no choice," said a Guardian intelligence source.

Human rights groups have spoken out against the mass data collection: “They are exploiting the fact that the internet is so international in nature," Shami Chakrabarti, director of Liberty, told BBC Radio 4's 'Today' program. "I'm pretty sad in a democracy when all that appears to be holding back the secret state is its physical and technological capability and not its ethics or a tight interpretation and application of the law," she added.


Snowden previously warned that he would be releasing further information pertaining to mass security operations carried out on the unwary public, stating in a previous Q & A with the Guardian that the “truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.”
 

gaiusmarius

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well it seems Snowden has made it to Moscow, the day after the extradition request was made to HongKong they let him leave by plane, LOL. apparently the extradition request wasn't quite perfect according to their standards so he remained free and was able to bugger off out of there. wikileaks is saying he will be heading to south America.

LMFAO GO SNOWDEN!
 

gaiusmarius

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i hope people are taking names of the senators and congressmen and woman who are making excuses or calling to prosecute Snowden.

apparently Pelosi was booed when she said Snowden had broken the law in a speech.
 

opiumo

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What makes me even more angry is that in my country there are no protests outside of the USA's embassy, not a freaking finger is lifted. We just swallow their cum like focking deepthroat pornstars.

Iam convinced that this mass-data gathering have nothing to do with terrorism, its something about money. Thats all the US goverment cares about, ever. Another day, another dollar.
(Sorry if any american citizen is offended, but it is the passive citizens fault. Too easy to blame the badguys all the time.)
 

gaiusmarius

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it turns out they have been spying on the supreme court justices, on top generals, lawmakers, even on Obama him self. it's starting to look like they might be blackmailing literally everyone who says 1 word against this from a position of power. no wonder no one much complains or resists, even though the common man is outraged.

they all have shit to hide. seems Snowden was not lying when he said he could spy on anyone's communications in his job. every day that passes the whole thing is looking worse and worse. i heard an interview where this lawyer was saying that this whole prism etc went well beyond what even the patriot act allowed. but no matter if they say it was allowed or not, it goes against international human rights and laws, but more importantly it goes against the principles of freedom justice. it's such a giant invasion of the right to privacy, that there is no honest man who would justify it. they are compromised, or they are directly profiting from the spying. talk about industrial espionage. there was the US giving China a hard time about their piddly little hacking programs, when the other side has been sucking up everything directly from the fiber optic cables, lmao!
 

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I don't think this shit is funny, but the fact that anybody thinks that the NSA just recently started spying is an absolute joke.

Take a minute to google NSA and industrial espionage.

Do you still think that all these things that Snowden exposed are news to anyone who knows anything about what NSA actually does? or has done in the past?

More than half of America thought the wikileaks guy was a criminal because he had the balls to tell the truth about what our government was doing. The same numbers think Snowden is a hero because he had the balls to tell the truth about what the government was doing. IMHO they are both heroes, but it becomes painfully obvious that our citizens have a self interest streak about a mile wide (that could be one of the reasons we let shit like this happen REPEATEDLY)

Anyone who thinks this shit is all Obama's or Bush's or Clinton's or Bush's or Reagan's or Carter's or Ford's or Nixon's fault is so willingly blind that they should put their bicycle helmet on and take their seat in the back of the short bus. It's time to pull our collective heads out of our collective asses and realize that NOT ONE SINGLE PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE ANYTHING TO CURB THE POWER OF THE NSA ......... fucking EVER!!!!

Watergate never stopped folks! Both red and blue have had the time to clue us in but chose not too .......... i wonder if this mixture explains the purple hue of the bruise on America's butt hole?
 

gaiusmarius

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that its' happening is not funny, but that it's come out to the main stream, that is funny as hell imo! can you say BUSTED! the point is up till recently this stuff was considered to be in the realm of conspiracy theories, where as now, it's confirmed even in the mainstream media. the US and the Britts are spying worse then any dictator in the history of the world has ever done before. they are intruding in more private aspects of every day life then mao and lennin could have even dreamed of doing.
 

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Irony is a motherfucker!!!!!

Propaganda has a pretty short half life. :ying:

But the "human element" lasts and lasts and lasts ..........:biggrin:



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opiumo

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So the word is he is seeking asylum in Ecuador, i hope he gets there in one piece.


puffs for snowden! :joint:
 

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Snowden is now reported to be in Moscow. Since he doesn't have all the proper paperwork to enter Russia he will spend the night at the airport under escort of Ecuadorian diplomats until he can catch tomorrow's flight to Cuba, then on to Ecuador.
 

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yeah the US has canceled his passport. apparently thats possible today with the rfid chips in the passports, they can just turn it off and you are screwed. so now he has to stay at the airport in transit, but it does look like he is being met by the Ecuadorian ambassador to Russia while at the airport. so he might well end up going there.
 

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Crazy.. crazy shit, it shouldnt even be him that is persued in this manner in my honest opinion.
Its the crooks that wanna lock him up that really should be, and im not talking about no nancy non-violent protest either.

If you know the avatar you know me lads, cheers. :tiphat:
 

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Check out the Hong Kong government's statement on Snowden's departure;


The full text of the statement Sunday from the Hong Kong government on the departure of NSA leaker Edward Snowden:

Edward Snowden has left Hong Kong on his own accord for a third country through a lawful and normal channel, and Hong Kong has informed the US Government of his departure.

The Hong Kong Government today said the US Government had earlier requested a provisional warrant of arrest against Mr Snowden.

Since the documents provided by the US Government did not fully comply with legal requirements under Hong Kong law, the Hong Kong Government requested additional information so that the Department of Justice could consider whether the US Government's request met relevant legal conditions.

As the Hong Kong Government did not yet have sufficient information to process the request, there was no legal basis to restrict Mr Snowden from leaving Hong Kong.

At the same time, it has formally written to the US Government requesting clarification on reports about the hacking of computer systems in Hong Kong by US government agencies. It will follow up on the matter, to protect the legal rights of people of Hong Kong.
 

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This should make it obvious to everyone, that all the anti terror laws brought in in the past decade, are fuck all to do with terrorism, and everything to do with keeping the people down, and protecting the status quo.
Apparently more people die from slipping in the bath, than die fropm terror attacks, and yet we don't see a war on slippery surfaces.


"We're here for your protection"
 
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By The Associated Press


MOSCOW (AP) - National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden was registered on a flight from Moscow to Cuba, but he was not seen on the plane, the airline said.

Snowden was set to leave Moscow for Cuba, the next step on his journey to evade U.S. justice and seek asylum in Ecuador.

A representative of Aeroflot told The Associated Press that Snowden registered for the flight to Havana that leaves Moscow on Monday at 2:05 p.m., but he was apparently not on the plane, The AP is reporting.

The airline says he registered for the flight on Sunday using his U.S. passport, which American officials say has been annulled as part of an effort to prosecute him for revealing highly classified government secrets.

Snowden arrived in Moscow on Sunday from Hong Kong, where he had been hiding for several weeks. Ecuador's foreign minister said Sunday that the country is considering his application for asylum.

Read more: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/22667645/edward-snowden-heading-from-moscow-to-cuba-airline-says#ixzz2X8AGLbvc
Not onboard because of the passport withdraw, or are they just trying to spread as much info as possible to distort his wherabouts?
 

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The US government is spying on each and every one of us, but it is Edward Snowden who is charged with espionage for tipping us off.

Edward Snowden is the eighth leaker to be charged with espionage under this president.

The word “traitor” has been thrown around a lot in recent days.

But who is really the traitor here?

Who was it who promised a generation “hope” and “change,” only to betray those promises with dismal misery and stagnation?

Who took an oath to defend the US constitution, only to feed the invisible beast of secret law devouring it alive from the inside out?

Who is it that promised to preside over The Most Transparent Administration in history, only to crush whistleblower after whistleblower with the bootheel of espionage charges?

Who combined in his executive the powers of judge, jury and executioner, and claimed the jurisdiction of the entire earth on which to exercise those powers?

Who arrogates the power to spy on the entire earth – every single one of us – and when he is caught red handed, explains to us that “we’re going to have to make a choice.”

Who is that person?

Let’s be very careful about who we call “traitor”.

Edward Snowden’s Ordeal Is Just Beginning By Julian Assange, WikiLeaks

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/...s-just-beginning-by-julian-assange-wikileaks/
 
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