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San Diego Finest Cuts #3

DoomsDay

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as promised. here are two of whats drying right now in the dry shack. blueberry hoggs breath with additional 6 days past recommended. not sure if i posted the pull down of the first one, but she was one ORANGE girl. i noticed on this lady much of that orange has been replaced with more THC shine, so looks like the recommended time was WAY off as im sure this is still a bit early to have cut her down.
 

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thanks sunset sounds easy enough, i will have to explore further

it's gotten even better. day before flip i had consistent 13.5 and a couple leaves that hit 14.

how? easy. shred a fan leaf. put it in a garlic press. squeeze a few drops of the juice onto a refractometer. cheap ones are ~$20 on ebay and work fine. make sure you get the ones for brewing and wine making though. the automotive one will require you to do some arithmetic to convert to brix %.





1. be patient

2. avoid the clubs unless you already have broad mites and PM.

3. avoid with extreme prejudice a particular vendor on craigslist whose number probably ends in 7420. forrealz.

4. consider starting seeds. this site was built to attract seed vendors and while it's far from perfect, they've got some good ones like ace and tom hill. besides, pheno hunting is fun.

5. stick around this thread. post pictures. earn trust. don't be pushy or impetuous or act like anyone owes you anything. maybe the gods smile on you or something.

6. be patient.




welcome back. to the boards and the grind both.

sick bowl man. i understand why pavlov's dogs salivated now.
 

bent

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DT7 would do really well outdoors. It is disease and insect resistant, fast maturing, yield is moderate but healthy, medicinal profile is great, and it's a well structured pheno. I've seen a few growers on here with outdoor specimens but you will h ave to dig to find em'

the whole dud thing, whether or not it is caused by a injection of mutagenic saliva from broadmites, is primarily hormone related. Spectrum, light cycle, and foliar application of kelp should correct any imbalance.
I use extreme serene at every feeding in veg, and the first few weeks of flower, but don't do much foliar feeding. Would foliar be that much of an improvement over watering in? What can you do with spectrum?
 

Storm Shadow

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Humble....only if it was that easy ....you'd save Bayer Billions ..Bro Science is a no go

http://www.cropscience.bayer.com/en...es-Weeds/Pests/Polyphagotarsonemus-latus.aspx

Broad mites puncture plant epidermis cells and suck out their contents, preferably on the shaded side of young leaves, fruits or growing points. The sap loss and reduction in photosynthetically-active surface damage the plant; they are negligible, however, in comparison with the effects of the toxic saliva. This contains substances that act as phytohormones and cause physiological changes in the tissue layers beneath the feeding site that lead to severe dysfunction of the affected parts, resulting in growth distortions, discoloration (bronzing) or corking, stunting and other symptoms, depending on the crop. In general, leaves will shrivel or curl and will eventually be shed; fruits will be heavily deformed or crack and will sometimes drop. When growth points are attacked, flowers or buds will fail to open or will be killed off. Young shoots may die back. The symptoms of broad mite infestation on citrus are very similar to those caused by the citrus rust mite, Phyllocoptruta oleivora. The changes induced by their feeding may persist for many weeks, therefore by the time the damage becomes apparent, the mites may already have disappeared
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
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Storm shadow - great post man. Way to keep on the facts. (no offense Humble, you know it's all love)

BUT - I like that terminology - ie "corking" - to describe that blotchy rust like spotting that starts with broad mites...looking some what similar to a calcium deficiency.

And for what it is worth - broad mites are more similar to a russet mite than a spider mite - so it is highly interesting to see the citrus industry compare the damage to a citrus rust mite...

Again - great post. k+



dank.Frank
 

ECtraveler

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I don't understand how that disputes what Humble said about the damage being hormonal?
This contains substances that act as phytohormones and cause physiological changes in the tissue layers
Regarding his advice about rehabilitation besides adding heat and a 2 product preventive regiment to fight re-infestation I'd say it falls pretty darn close to my experience.

IMHO "bro-science" should never be taken as gospel nor should it be automatically written off. The majority of advancements in horticulture (including the birth of horticulture itself) are the result of simple observation, experimentation, and passing on of information.
 

Storm Shadow

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I don't understand how that disputes what Humble said about the damage being hormonal?
Regarding his advice about rehabilitation besides adding heat and a 2 product preventive regiment to fight re-infestation I'd say it falls pretty darn close to my experience.

IMHO "bro-science" should never be taken as gospel nor should it be automatically written off. The majority of advancements in horticulture (including the birth of horticulture itself) are the result of simple observation, experimentation, and passing on of information.


http://plantsciences.utk.edu/pdf/BroadMites.pdf

My point to humble was ....these things take a Nuclear Arsenal to defeat..and even after you kill them...a good majority of your plants are done...never coming back to what they were b4... I tried believe me....many strains that just not would recover... Sunlight and Seaweed foliars...come on man ... I use SAR products most people on the boards have never even heard of...like 5-8 of them and still the plants don't bounce back...

The only thing that you might benefit form outdoors is...they cant live in High heat...so if you grow in Riverside county during the summer...they will not survive.. High Heat and Low Humidity

Also outdoors your going have more natural predators looking to eat them as a snack
 

humbleguy

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Sunlight and Seaweed man ...

Empirical data...A slice of life, a side of science.

It's cool man, I appreciate your perspective.


I use SAR products most people on the boards have never even heard of...

Btw, important bit of info for you Storm. Chitanases have been linked to allergies (dust mites etc.). I would be careful foliar applying a potential allergen to a consumable flower.
 

bent

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Was storm quoting your sig, or did you just put that in?

Although I don't have much experience with growing, certainly not as much as most here, the sum of my life experience suggests to me all things are better with an organic approach, and I don't see how growing mmj is any different. Chemicals scare the shit out of me.

I'll keep a foliar and drench rotation of azamax, extreme serene, and ancient amber, and throw her out in the sun every once in a while, and see how she does after a few months of care.
 

Storm Shadow

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Empirical data...A slice of life, a side of science.

It's cool man, I appreciate your perspective.




Btw, important bit of info for you Storm. Chitanases have been linked to allergies (dust mites etc.). I would be careful foliar applying a potential allergen to a consumable flower.


Again...here we go with the Bro Science 101...do some reading Humble

http://www.agrihouse.com/pdf/ODC%20Brochure.pdf

http://www.agrihouse.com/biocontrols.php
its called Agricultural Oligochitosan ... I guess Nasa was wrong for signing off on the product :ying:

When you don't understand something....your better off say nothing Humble
 

sunset limited

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got room under the porch for me too J-dub? i don't know if i can keep up with all the big things that are going downn here, but my little garden is going to pop off in about 6 seconds.

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Jericho Mile

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San Onofre closing...is going to jack electricity..........I done seen the memo. Tiers 3 and 4 across the county are affected..starting Sept 1
 
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