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Deep Stoner Thoughts
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The only "true self" you have is the one you create. And all the milk and cookies and philosophical shit doesn't change the simple fact if you play with fire you get burned. Doesn't matter how much you tell yourself it is ice.
It isn't purely perception and how you choose to interpret observed data. There is fact. There are absolutes.
To say otherwise only means you don't like existence in it's most simple form - you are here. You exist - and SO WHAT. You're need to feel intelligent and enlightened is all you are feeding inside this bubble. But like you said - whatever makes your "reality" bearable...
SF - you know we have DRASTICALLY different opinions on our world views. I think to talk to you in person, I would laugh in your face - but it wouldn't be out of thinking you were ignorant and I surely wouldn't want to offend you - but this line of thinking just seems so absolutely sip the kool-aid in the plastic cup.
On to the next deep stoner thought...there are no less than 5 threads on this ego/self/reality 'ish....
dank.Frank
It isn't purely perception and how you choose to interpret observed data. There is fact. There are absolutes.
To say otherwise only means you don't like existence in it's most simple form - you are here. You exist - and SO WHAT. You're need to feel intelligent and enlightened is all you are feeding inside this bubble. But like you said - whatever makes your "reality" bearable...
SF - you know we have DRASTICALLY different opinions on our world views. I think to talk to you in person, I would laugh in your face - but it wouldn't be out of thinking you were ignorant and I surely wouldn't want to offend you - but this line of thinking just seems so absolutely sip the kool-aid in the plastic cup.
On to the next deep stoner thought...there are no less than 5 threads on this ego/self/reality 'ish....
dank.Frank
CHillTowneGenes
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always make your words soft and tender, because you may have to eat them later...
CHillTowneGenes
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what is normalcy in an abnormal society??
There are always exceptions, but as a rule, for the majority, social status, and all things that are associated with this status matter a lot.
And obviously, not everyone is so dependent on what others think of them, but they are still dependent enough to take into account what they do, wear, say, etc.
...at least if they are honest with themselves.
Plus, if you observe, you are still dependent on what others think, otherwise you wouldn't have written all those things in your post. You actually want others to think you are NOT like those folks that are chasing social status, you are different from them.
...the truth is you are just as dependent, but use different beliefs and assumptions.
...you were programmed a little different by the culture (people) where you grew up.
...you identify with different concepts, but the structure of your life is the same as everyone else's.
...you are doing everything possible to survive as the self you believe yourself to be.
You make far too many assumptions in your blanket characterizations of people. I didn't say what I said because I want others to think I'm different. I said what I said because I see examples around me everyday that totally conflicts with what you're suggesting is true of most people.
The fact is I don't care what most others think because most others are only people I come into contact with briefly and they will think what they're going to think and I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to change what they think.
Now that's not to say I don't care what anyone thinks, there are people in my life that are important to me, my wife, my family, good friends, those people I care about what they think but that's on a much deeper level then the superficial bullshit of what clothes I'm wearing and who they are made by. Those people have already accepted the way I dress or things like how I wear my hair. So petty nonsense like that doesn't even enter into the equation.
the paralyzing fear that you trusted the wrong fart what?
Time is relative . . . sharts are absolute. 
When youve got the time, use the bathroom, you never know when the next rest stop is
Deep stoner thoughts? Yes, every evening but fortunatly (4 u) I had forget them every morning. 
Das Sein bestimmt das Bewusst sein.
Beeing determines consiuosness.
Karl Marx
Beeing determines consiuosness.
Karl Marx
Not stoned... just tired, mostly.
There are too many over privileged crybaby's in cannabis.
Dispensaries and access and seed co.s are great.
For all the crying, i think that everyone with a legal weed card should be required to score their pot by their self in the roughest neighborhood available.
To pay $25 for an eigth of the lousiest mexican schwag. To smoke that, and enjoy it. And risk going to jail to do it.
Then you can count yourself as a true head.
This 31 flavors bullshit has spoiled too many people that will never know what it's like to be a true head.
After we figure that, we can move on to making your own beans and quiting your bitching over breeders.
There are too many over privileged crybaby's in cannabis.
Dispensaries and access and seed co.s are great.
For all the crying, i think that everyone with a legal weed card should be required to score their pot by their self in the roughest neighborhood available.
To pay $25 for an eigth of the lousiest mexican schwag. To smoke that, and enjoy it. And risk going to jail to do it.
Then you can count yourself as a true head.
This 31 flavors bullshit has spoiled too many people that will never know what it's like to be a true head.
After we figure that, we can move on to making your own beans and quiting your bitching over breeders.
but daddy I want it now
Every human being fashions him- or herself in relation to the culture and sub-culture in which he or she exists. You, me, and all other folks wear clothes, eat food, and live in homes that are similar to a certain percent of society in which we exist.
The example I wrote about people wearing certain jeans, drinking certain water, living in certain homes, etc., was "obviously" an example of "high-status" that is important only for a part of society.
Nowhere did I write that ALL people are like that.
But, I do want to point at the FACT that we all fashion ourselves (copy) and are programmed by the culture and sub-culture in which we exist. The choices about what to wear and eat, where to live, and what to think are taken from society.
So it doesn't matter what you wear and eat, and where you live, fundamentally it is copied from other people living around you.
Most people don't notice this. Especially people that live in one country for too long, and don't see other cultures, where they have a chance to see how different people's beliefs and assumptions really are.
In other words, every sub-culture has its own beliefs, assumptions, and rules, and every person that considers himself a part of this sub-culture tries to fit it and do what is considered "right" by this sub-culture.
...including You!
But, my primary point in that post (which you obviously mis-understood) was that people take physical survival items like clothes, food, and shelter and turn them into social survival items with status.
Very few people escape this. Maybe people living on the street are the only exception.
I'm sure if you pay attention, you will notice how much you care about what others think of you.
In fact, every person you come in contact with, you must interpret what they mean in relation to you, and what you might mean in relation to them. This is the self-survival impulse working. In fact, I can guarantee that these "unimportant folks" matter a lot more than the group below that accepts you as you are.
...at least where self-survival is concerned.
Since you don't know how "unknown" people will behave in relation to you, in order to survive, you must make sure that you are thinking about how you are acting around them.
Maybe you don't care what they think about your clothes and the water you are drinking, but there are elements you care about for sure. To be more exact, your "thinking" cares.
Since my post was about pointing out that humans turn physical survival into social survival, fundamentally nothing exists outside of it. All that we are doing as humans is self-surviving. This obviously includes focusing maybe 10% of our attention on physical survival, but the rest, at least 90% is focused on social-survival.
There is nothing outside of this.
...really? then who is creating this true self? What you are aware of, is not the awareness that is aware...right?
Just the FACT, that ALL our perceptions are SECONDARY, would make an honest person wanting to know the truth wonder about this.
In case you don't know what I mean by secondary let me explain.
We don't perceive anything directly, and can't perceive anything directly. Our sense organs interpret data and our self-mind provides us with images, sounds, tastes, feelings, thoughts, etc.
Everyone of these is conceptual. Including water is wet, and a stone is hard.
What you are perceiving is NOT what's there. What you are perceiving is what your mind wants you to perceive. This will be based on the programming that is running this self-survival mechanism.
Our sense organs work like radar. For example with sight, our nerve endings interpret light that bounces of the objects that we perceive, and our mind provides the image that we see with our eyes.
What is REALLY there is unknown. Maybe there's nothing there.
the most important question is what is this "you" all about?
What is it really? Except a concept? a snowball of ideas, beliefs, and assumptions?
To me it doesn't matter what something seems like, as long as it is the truth.
False notions that seem absolutely NOT sip the kool-aid in the plastic cup that are NOT the truth, still are NOT TRUE.
...so imho, it doesn't matter what something seems like, as long as it is true!
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Guys I bought a little salvia cutting, looks fucked to me but maybe it'll grow,
anyway I stuck some dried dropped leaves from the cutting in my vape with my haze,
and suddlenly I'm like OMG! I'm tripping! my vape tastes like mayo and chips!
and then I realise it's because I'm trying to use my vape while I have a mouthful of mayo and chips...
anyway I stuck some dried dropped leaves from the cutting in my vape with my haze,
and suddlenly I'm like OMG! I'm tripping! my vape tastes like mayo and chips!
and then I realise it's because I'm trying to use my vape while I have a mouthful of mayo and chips...
