GMO, Monsanto, and the future of cannabis?

[HempKat]

Hempy, you know me, personally...this shit is real and it is bad........they are going to take our plant away. If the USDA farmers cannot grow their own wheat, why do you think, they will let us grow our own weed? You are far too intelligent to not educate yourself.

You're underestimating us stoners and you're over estimating Monsanto. If they had the power and influence to control the marijuana market like you think they will then weed would have been legalized on the National level a long time ago.

The only way your scenario could play out is if when we do legalize all of us stoners just freely hand over our genetics to whoever wants them. That's never going to happen even if Monsanto never existed. There are too many people that have put too much time and effort into breeding unique strains with specific desirable qualities to ever allow themselves to lose control of those genetics.

Like I said, in a legal world in the open market yes people trying to produce marijuana and/or hemp will have to contend with organizations like Monsanto and the deck will be stacked against those people. Even in that world though there will still be smaller markets something like small local farmers markets that don't have to go thru the same channels since they're not really trying to compete commercially. There will also still be somewhat of a black market.

 

[captain planet]

Sealed rooms and people concerned, who know , will keep the good strains alive. Their will always be a segment producing heirloom products. It's messed up but we are far off from losing our cannabis and closer to having "idiots " knowingly or unknowingly buying the gmo roundup ready cannabis while a smaller percentage knows and finds the heirloom stuff that of course will be more expensive

It's the crops that we can't run in sealed rooms that get pollinated by the gmo roundup ready shit that we have to worry the most about. Most of my fruits and veggies know are grown from baker creek heirloom seeds or from the seed savers exchange. I fear that the Amish are already unknowingly growing some crops that could be tainted

 

[Jericho Mile]

preserve nothing

 

[Dawn Patrol]

preserve nothing

Care to expand on that thought?

 

[Can420]

Its too bad that N America is slow to react to GMO and Monsanto compared to Europe and Asian countries

 

[Jericho Mile]

The problem with GMO (imo) is that it leads to mono cropping and monopolies. The technology is not what..is to be feared. Uniformed...no choice...boredom...is what the problem is...and all for profits

Monsanto is not going to be stopped. It's a done deal...the law talk..and the political backing is already in place. Those countries rebelling...will not be rebelling for long. Sad to say...but the masses line up at the trough. Wars are fought over this kind of stuff..and fed with this kind of stuff

 

[thaicat]

WHY ISN'T ANYBODY AS FREAKED OUT AS I AM? I can't believe that all the intelligent peeps here, have nothing to say. DO YOUR RESEARCH....these FUCKS are gonna be the future of OUR plant!!!!!

I think there are others as, if not more freaked out about it, than you. The problem is, those people are outnumbered 100 to 1. I have a 9 year old Niece and go watch her play Softball. You couldn't imagine the safety gear they put on these kids and rules that they abide by....They could go into full combat and probably never receive a single scratch. The Parents have no problem taking those same kids to McDonalds afterward or going home and nuking a TV dinner or washing all those toxins done with some nice, chemical ridden tap water.

I'm not sure of an answer but as you say...People need to wake up before it's too late, if it isn't already too late.

I'm certain our Forefathers would be as complacent and relaxed as we, as a Country, are.

 

[Bag]

i think ill keep collecting seeds just in case, are there any certain veggie seed companies i should get veggie seeds from like bonnie or whatver? who has the shitty gmo seeds and who doesnt ? i know where to get untainted weed seeds.

 

[PhenoMenal]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/organic-farmers-cant-fight-monsanto-patents-in-court/ Organic farmers can’t fight Monsanto patents in court

 

[HempKat]

Wanna bet...genetics will all be patented, by AGRIBUSINESS!!!!

They have to get ahold of them first. There are still strains of all the popular fruits and vegetables out there that Monsanto doesn't own. The issue comes down to what is likely will be that you'll be allowed to get from "legal sources" will all be controlled by the likes of Monsanto but if you grow for yourself now and continue that when it's legalized, and you can maintain your own source of genetics, the only difference is you won't have to fear the law as much. In that sense you'll be able to operate a little more freely although you'll still need to keep tight security because of thieves.

Now if you grow for profit and/or grow for medical need and hope to parley that into a business in a "legalized" America then yes, you need to and should be worried about Monsanto and the likes. All you can do to combat that is to try to establish a powerful enough lobbying force that when they do start legalizing things you can try to get the government to keep the playing field level. Although if you don't have enough money to buy off the right politicians you'll probably not succeed.

 

[Nor'Easter]

well I admit I did not read nearly enough, but monsanto and that fake wannabe company that followed in its wake polluted the air with the most foul chemical smelling air when I go on shopping trips in Chicopee, look it up. anyway, YOU BASTARDS! seriously you suck~!

 

[castout]

Monsanto is also an HERBICIDE company...think Agent Orange.......soon enough, they will get a new herbicide out there, that kills cannabis, and only the GMO cannabis seeds will flourish. If any grower, thinks their plants will be immune....well, we always hope we don't get pests, pm, or any deficiencies....but we always do. Why can't they make an airborne herbicide, that will get indoors, and wipe out cannabis?

 

[captain planet]

It's pretty weird ( ya thanks Michael Taylor and Clarence Thomas) that monsanto can have farms sued and shut down for running gmo pollinated crops, that were downwind from there crap and open pollinated , when all logic says we/they should be able to sue and shut down monsanto for not controlling their frankenshit!.... Did I say weird, maybe I should have said American ...... That makes captain planet

 

[Stoner4Life]

not for nothin' but stoners won't take this shit laying down like a bunch of confused/lied to farmers. my guess is if they make any moves on weed those monsanto fuckers'll get burned out of their homes, offices & processing facilities.

just sayin'

 

[castout]

look up what is happening in Oregon, where the wheat has been found to have GNO wheat in the fields....no other country(China) will buy that wheat, because they refuse to allow their country to eat anything that is GMO!!!!

 

[Stoner4Life]

Did Monsanto Just Ruin the Economy?

Did Monsanto Just Ruin the Economy?

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...economy.aspx?source=isesitlnk0000001&mrr=1.00

They said it couldn't happen. It was all supposed to be locked up tight and under control. Yet, despite all the assurances to the contrary, unapproved genetically modified wheat has been found in an Oregon wheat field, and the implications of its discovery are far-reaching and potentially devastating. Monsanto (NYSE: MON ) may have just single-handedly wrecked the wheat industry and the economy.

Corn, soy beans, alfalfa, sugar beets. All these crops have been genetically modified by Monsanto and its GM brethren to the point where there are virtually no alternatives for farmers. GM corn accounts for 86% of the country's supply. More than 90% of the soy beans have been altered. Sugar beets are half the country's sugar supply, and 95% of those seeds are from Monsanto.

All told, Monsanto, DuPont (NYSE: DD ) , and Syngenta (NYSE: SYT ) control 53% of the world's seed production, yet their control of our food supply is almost all-encompassing, because they cross-license their technology between themselves and with other companies.

Monsanto recently agreed to share its technology with Dow Chemical (NYSE: DOW ) and Bayer (and vice versa), while DuPont and Bayer similarly expanded their collaboration. Syngenta is cross-pollinating Dow's AgroSciences division with its GM technology.

Yet, the one crop that has been saved from being altered up until now has been wheat. Not that Monsanto hasn't tried, as it experimented with modifying its DNA to make it resistant to its Roundup herbicide. Fields in 16 states including Arizona, California, Florida, Nebraska, and Oregon were used to test Roundup Ready wheat seed. But because the rest of the world has banned GM wheat from their bread boxes, Monsanto backed off, and suspended the program in 2005.

The wheat strain discovered last month was in a field that was supposed to remain fallow. Instead, it sprouted, and was found to contain the Roundup Ready gene, even though the Agriculture Dept. supposedly destroyed all the seed that was tested except for a small amount it kept to run additional tests. Now we learn that some managed to escape.

The U.S. is, by far, the world's largest exporter of wheat, shipping almost 28 million metric tons around the world, or about half of all the wheat this country produces each year. That's just as much as all of Europe and Canada combined! Countries like Japan and South Korea are huge importers of U.S. wheat, but it's done on one condition: the wheat can't be genetically modified.

In the wake of the discovery of this supposed rogue GMO strain, Japan began canceling wheat imports, and so did South Korea. Both Taiwan and Europe are stepping up their monitoring of imports with an eye toward suspending them if genetically modified wheat is found. With 90% of the wheat from Oregon, Washington, and Idaho earmarked for export, the emergence of a GMO strain could cripple the market for it and, thus, the economy.

While officials immediately proclaimed it an isolated incident, how do they know that? They can't even say how it got into the field in the first place, but we're supposed to believe it's not widespread.

While Monsanto speculates it could be "sabotage," with the toothpaste out of the tube, it's easy to devise an equally sinister explanation, one that actually benefits Monsanto. Sure, foreign countries would initially reject U.S. exports of GM wheat; but where would they turn to make up half of the world's supply? And when it becomes a choice of feeding their people or starvation, it may ultimately lead to acceptance of genetically modified wheat. And once that happens, Monsanto controls the world's wheat supply. Tinfoil hat brigade stuff to be sure, but no more outlandish than Monsanto's supposition.

Despite assurances that GM foods are safe to eat, this latest incident underscores why it's so important that such foods are labeled that they've been altered at the molecular level. Individuals should have a choice as to whether they ingest GM foods or not, but Congress has seen fit to protect Monsanto at every turn by keeping consumers in the dark.

When it comes to the nation's bread basket, this country's wheat supply and its economy need to be saved from Monsanto.

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Well, that's one way to look at it.


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[castout]

As I have said many times, this is very scary. They control the food supply. The GMO wheat could really screw this economy, and our farmers. Look at all the invasive species we have in this country.....think japanese beatles, or kudzu.......and realize the genie is already out of the bottle....that GMO wheat is out there, and birds are eating it, then shitting it out, into another field....and viola, it is everywhere!!!!! And...my thoughts are why will they not develop an herbicide to kill cannabis, and only their GMO cannabis will survive. Welcome the very scary future!!!!!

 

[purple_man]

time will deal with monsanto, dupont, syngenta, basf, bayer, ... luckily the media can't afford to be all shush about the "mishapps" and other "weird" moves by those companies... worst case, their executives will get stoned, and their labs burned, classical mob reaction, it just takes much time.

blessss

 

[DonPanchoVilla]

Fuck Monsanto, Evil Ass Company

 

[Purple turtle]

Terminator seeds[edit]
Main article: Genetic use restriction technology
Genetic use restriction technology, colloquially known as "terminator technology", produces plants that have sterile seeds. If put into use, it would prevent the spread of those seeds into the wild. It also would prevent farmers from planting seeds they harvest, requiring them to repurchase seed for every planting, although they also need to do this for hybrid seeds, because second-generation seeds are inferior, and in cases of patented transgenic seeds, where patent-holders like Monsanto enter into contracts with farmers who agree not to plant harvested seeds as a condition of purchase.
Terminator technology has been developed by governmental labs, university researchers, and companies, sometimes in collaboration and sometimes independently.[113][114][115] The technology has never been known to have been used commercially.[116][117] Rumors that Monsanto and other companies intended to introduce terminator technology have caused protests, for example in India.[118][119]
In 1999, Monsanto pledged not to commercialize terminator technology, and has kept that pledge on its website to the present day.[116][120] The Delta and Pine Land Company intended to commercialize the technology,[115] but D&PL was acquired by Monsanto in 2007.[121]