What do people Spray on their outdoor plants (foliar, IPM, etc.)

[anonymousgrow]

Hello fellow outdoor growers, I am curious what people Spray on their plants. I am currently doing regular foliar sprays of organic neem oil emulsified with pro-tekt and Dr Bronners peppermint liquid castile soap. at the rate of 1tsp per gallon of neem and pro-tekt and just a little soap.

I have also sprayed with EWC tea, alfalfa tea, and fungal teas and just plain ol' water.

I will probably start spraying BT on the plants before too long too, though from what i understand cats wont be as much of a problem in this new location.

What do you spray on your plants?

 

[Buddah Watcha]

Right on dude, here's the arsenal of nuttes im working with

Foliar Feeds:

• Fermented Plant Extracts: comfrey, nettles, dandelions
• BioAG TM7
• Protek
• Aloe Vera
• Roasted Egg Shells soaked in Vinegar (Calcium Phosphate)
• Liquid Karma
• Molasses
• EWC tea

Pest Prevention

• Neem Oil
• BT
• Spinosad
• Essential Oils: Lavender, Rosemary, Eucaliptus
• Dr. Bronner soap

Peace

 

[anonymousgrow]

That looks like quite a line up of things to spray! I thought i was doing a lot, lol.
I have a couple questions for you:

I haven't made any FPE's thus far because its my understanding that I am better off adding the plant matter to AACT's and just top dressing with them. Though I am first to admit that my understanding is quite elementary, Do you know notice a difference from not spraying with FPE's to when you started adding that to your foliar regiment?

Whats the process you use for acquiring calcium phosphate from roasted egg shells in vinegar?

 

[OrganicBuds]

I spray:
Pure Protein Dry 15-1-1
Worm Boost from Chico Worm Farm
Calcium 25
ACT's

Great idea for a thread. I was wondering what people were spraying for minerals.

 

[Buddah Watcha]

Hey dude, here's the info on the calcium phosphate
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=5776037#post5776037

You can also search youtube up, there are a few videos on how to make and use them.

Regarding the FPE's, they really help IMO, this is the 1st season i've been using them and the plants are the happiest i've seen so far. I think the fermentation process helps extracts most of the nutrients out of the plants... I'm not an expert in the subject to be honest with you, but if you head to the organic section you can find a lot of information on it.

I also make sure to mulch it with Nettles/Comfrey/Dandelions or whatever I can get my hands on.

Something I haven't had a chance to use, but will give it a shot is the Sprouted Seed's soak. I heard that has a lots of enzymes that are beneficial to the plant!

OrganicBuds, I just took a look at the pure protein product, do they attract critters to your plants at all? I see that is made out of fish fertilizer...

Peace

 

[anonymousgrow]

Thanks for the link Buddah Watcha, I will be looking into this. Is it easily something one could scale up to make a lot for outdoors.

I see that both of you, Buddah Watcha and OrganicBuds, are using a foliar for calcium, Is that something you highly recommend? Do you know how well is Calcium utilized through the stomata on a foliar? For Calcium at the moment I have been putting all my egg shells and some oyster shell meal into the worm bin so i assume the castings have some calcium in them and I also added dolomite lime, gypsum, and chicken manure compost to the holes, which i believe should all have a bit of calcium in them.

OrganicBuds, What is the worm boost? Also is Pure Protein dry the cod fish powder stuff? I can't remember and at the moment don't have time to look into it. I used this stuff called SN-14 that is made by biodiversity last year. It was made from vegetable proteins, it worked really well, perhaps I will use some this year too. Though i noticed more growth from using it in a soil drench than as a foliar. Also you mentioned spraying for minerals, I hadn't even really thought of that much, figured the teas and the soil itself would take care of the mineral needs. Do you find its important to foliar for minerals as well?

And Buddah watcha, the sprouted enzyme teas are amazing, I use them indoors with fantastic results, though i will say that it seems to be way more effective as a soil drench that a foliar application. I want to try sprouting like 10 pounds of seeds and make a giant batch for the outdoor ladies one of these days too.

 

[OrganicBuds]

OrganicBuds, I just took a look at the pure protein product, do they attract critters to your plants at all? I see that is made out of fish fertilizer...

Peace

When I spray my entire yard reeks of fish! So I would imagine if you lived out in the woods you would have a major problem. However, I grow in a pretty large city (100,000 people) and the only critter I would worry about is coons, and my dogs keep them out of the yard no problem. I actually like the smell for some strange reason......

OrganicBuds, What is the worm boost? Also is Pure Protein dry the cod fish powder stuff? I can't remember and at the moment don't have time to look into it. I used this stuff called SN-14 that is made by biodiversity last year. It was made from vegetable proteins, it worked really well, perhaps I will use some this year too. Though i noticed more growth from using it in a soil drench than as a foliar. Also you mentioned spraying for minerals, I hadn't even really thought of that much, figured the teas and the soil itself would take care of the mineral needs. Do you find its important to foliar for minerals as well?

Worm boost is a mix of (I think) 12 different EWC from around the world, mixed with minerals. Pure protein is the cod fish powder, correct. I am personally just getting into foliar as my main source of feeding the plants, other than a proper soil from the start. I do believe it is important to feed minerals as a foliar spray, and several times a week. Foliar isn't going to make much of a difference if you only spray once a week or less. I am taking a page out of the book from all the pro's in the Growing Large Plants Outdoors thread. That is why I thought this thread was a great idea, because I could learn a lot more about foliars.

 

[bajangreen]

I do believe it is important to feed minerals as a foliar spray, and several times a week. Foliar isn't going to make much of a difference if you only spray once a week or less. I am taking a page out of the book from all the pro's in the Growing Large Plants Outdoors thread. That is why I thought this thread was a great idea, because I could learn a lot more about foliars.

Exactly how often do you spray your plants?

 

[Stank J.P.]

Hi guys, I just made a thread similar to this one but more specific to PPD. I shoulda just looked and noticed this one first. Basically, my cheeseball thread was asking if you guys using PPD also use a wetting agent when spraying? Thanks for the input and please spare my life for the pathetic thread I made.

 

[OrganicBuds]

Exactly how often do you spray your plants?

My climate here restricts me from spraying too much. During veg I try to foliar spray 2-3 times a week. I switch products also, instead of combing all in one spray. The calcium 25 I rarely get a chance to use, as the directions say it must be 77 degrees or above to use. Here I very seldom get days in the 80's, so that only gets used a couple of times in about a month or two.

When flower kicks in, I get more and more afraid to continue with my foliar regimen. Weather usually dictates when I stop spraying. When the nights get colder and the fog stays till 11am, then it's time to stop.

How about you Bajagreen? Am I over killing it? Like I said, I am fairly new to this.

 

[Veg N Out]

I am using Yucca , Quillaja , HumiSolve , PPD , Kelp , Calcium 25 , Albion Calcium & Calcium with Boron

I'll be testing Petrik Impulse200 this year as well

 

[OrganicBuds]

Veg N Out - Do you soil drench feed also? Or mainly foliar applications?

Also, how many of those products do you combine in a single application? I know the Cal25 says not to add anything.

 

[Veg N Out]

There isn't any need to feed my soil.

I spray the leaves it is much more economical as well as effective.

I do everything together except the Calcium 25 which I spray by itself with no wetting agent or extras just like the directions tell you to.

 

[OrganicBuds]

Like I have stated many times now, I am trying to mainly feed by foliar applications this year. However, the cal25 says to also soil feed the day after application. Maybe I will ditch the day after soil feed, and stick to the foliars. This was my first instinct, should have stuck with my gut.

 

[escabar]

Anyone else use a diluted milk spray (1:9 milk to water) during veg to help ward off PM?

I've been using it on a weekly basis for a few years with good results.

Here's a bit of reading on it: http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/3125/description/A_Dairy_Solution_to_Mildew_Woes

 

[bajangreen]

Well i have so much different fpes over a year old i just mix them up with coconut water, aloe and whatever seed sprout soak i can get at the time, i do this every ten days only because this is a gorilla grow. If i had my way i would hit them every 4 days. So to me you sound right on track. There is neem, seaweed and thyme/parsley for pest. the rest are random tropical plants and fruits.

Foliar feeding is the only way to go (once you have a good soil) to back up veg n out much more economical as well as effective

I also think around stretch you should try and hit the soil with something. but for the most foliar is how the pros do it.

 

[milkyjoe]

Experimenting with John Kempf's of PHT™ Phosphorus,
MicroPak™ and PhotoMag™. That P product also contains Ca...Photomag is Mg, B and a bunch of really trace stuff.

The goal is to build such a high energy plant that it makes excess fat (oils, waxes...essential oils). When that happens theoretically the root exudates feed the soil so well you can build humates.

At least that is the theory....we will see what we see.

 

[milkyjoe]

for some reason I cannot edit yet...so
http://www.agriculturesolutions.ca/

Check out the Tainio stuff to. Supposedly Biogenisis and Pepzyme can produce enough N fixing bacteria that no additional N sources are needed. I kinda like that idea.

 

[Chong]

I just wanna make some basic tea and need to know how much stuff to add per 10l -25l
and how long to leave it in the water so it becomes usable

just with:
wormcastings
see weed extract in dust form
molases

thx in advance

 

[milkyjoe]

Veg...yep, cannot even visitor message yet.