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the original Kali Mist?

JDOG6000

Active member
Veteran
Anyone still have seeds or clones of the old Kali Mist? The Sativa Pheno. Before they added the affy.
 

brennye

Member
I apparently do, received the clone from a trustworthy friend, and have smoked alot of the finished product. They are in my current grow linked in my sig.

What I smoked was very sativa, but not heart racing. My only problem is that the leaves look awful wide for a sativa, and it hasn't stretched nearly as much as he said to expect whcih makes me anxious about if my cut actually is the pre 2000...I will know soon enough!
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
Its around in both forms. I just gifted my 11 beans from '96 KM F2's to someone who is trying to preserve the line for release.
 

chefboy6969

OverGrow Refugee
Veteran
if it's not pre 1998 Kali Mist...then it's not the original...

was in the Dam in 97..smoked it and couldn't stop...it was by far the best weed I ever smoked hands down....to this day the only weed to ever give me trails like LSD or shrooms..it is the closest thing to smokeable LSD..was sandalwood, almost incense flavour, very airy, foxtail buds...so encrusted in trichomes

Went back to the Dam in 2001 and it was not the same....had definietly had indica in it..buds were way denser and nowwhere near as good as it was...

The pre 98 Kali Mist is my holy grail...but it is very elusive...Joeshmoe...used to have the cut...that everyone wanted...

peace
Chefboy
 

brennye

Member
The "maybe" pre-2000 cut that I have gives me the trails like LSD, and if I'm looking out over a long distance everything gets warped looking if I smoke a nice few rips.

So, is there a pre 98, a pre 2000 and a post 2000?

I have tried to talk to Simon over emails about this and he says the only change ever was in 2000. I would love to know if this is true? My pheno sure doesn't look near 90% sativa!
 

mellowfellow

Tomoka Smoka
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I've got some moemist, which has kalimist mixed with some kind of chemdog. Been meaning to see what these are about.
 

ChaosCatalunya

5.2 club is now 8.1 club...
Veteran
I just binned a selected old "pre 98" Kali Mist cut as IMO it was not quite as good as the Serious Seeds new stock I bought in 2009 and 2010.

The old story about SS "changing kali mist" has repeatedly been exposed as bullshit, they did change it, people complained, so they changed it back to the original recipe. This I have heard directly from Simon myself. The current Serious Seeds Kali Mist is still the best Sativa I have ever grown, every year I try 5 or more contenders, so far all have fallen short in some ways.

Kali has a tiny bit of Indica, it bulks up the buds and adds an amazing vigour to the growth as well as more of a slap to the cerebral high, Tom Hills Haze and Cannabiogen/ACE Malawi are "purer" highs, as they are 100% Sativas, but the difference is marginal.

No need for any "strain preservation runs" ... just go and buy a pack.
 

Jericho Mile

Grinder
Veteran
I just binned a selected old "pre 98" Kali Mist cut as IMO it was not quite as good as the Serious Seeds new stock I bought in 2009 and 2010.

The old story about SS "changing kali mist" has repeatedly been exposed as bullshit, they did change it, people complained, so they changed it back to the original recipe. This I have heard directly from Simon myself. The current Serious Seeds Kali Mist is still the best Sativa I have ever grown, every year I try 5 or more contenders, so far all have fallen short in some ways.

Kali has a tiny bit of Indica, it bulks up the buds and adds an amazing vigour to the growth as well as more of a slap to the cerebral high, Tom Hills Haze and Cannabiogen/ACE Malawi are "purer" highs, as they are 100% Sativas, but the difference is marginal.

No need for any "strain preservation runs" ... just go and buy a pack.

True...I've never understood the confusion. In the serious sub forum...it's documented what changes have occurred...why they occurred...and when they occurred.

No preservation necessary...far as I can tell.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
I remember Kali as a stringy sativa with thin buds and a ceiling less buzz. Maybe I just sampled some bunk Kali the last time I remember it but it wasn't the same and the buds looked more like SSH in density and wasn't nearly as potent (nostalgia factor maybe making me bias? idk)

I agree the pre___ lingo is dumb as it sounds like you're talking about specific cuts being passed around when its just meant to tell you the "vintage"
 

diogenes jones

New member
If it matters, Mr Soul(of Brothers Grimm) asked what had happened to Kali Mist around2001-02 in his forum on the 'old' CW, stating the then current seeds were different from the 1's from the late 90's.
 

chefboy6969

OverGrow Refugee
Veteran
I remember Kali as a stringy sativa with thin buds and a ceiling less buzz. Maybe I just sampled some bunk Kali the last time I remember it but it wasn't the same and the buds looked more like SSH in density and wasn't nearly as potent (nostalgia factor maybe making me bias? idk)

I agree the pre___ lingo is dumb as it sounds like you're talking about specific cuts being passed around when its just meant to tell you the "vintage"

This is just proof of the pre 98...lingo

its not just lingo...ITs the TRUTH

peace
Chefboy
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
If any thing wouldn't it be pre-2000, since that's when Simon made the modifications, no?
But all I was trying to convey is, pre-whatever Kali Mist is just to determine if it is pre-modded Kali mist, unlike pre98 bubba kush for example, which is a single plant.
 

stoney917

i Am SoFaKiNg WeTod DiD
Veteran
Love the old one and his old ak seed some of the best plants I ever had.... Sometimes u gotta leave things alone when they done once u go past perfect u go right to shit....
 

farmari

Member
I don't know if it's true or not but someone on the web claiming to be Simon said that "in 2000 the father-plant we used was lost due to a police raid". Best to search the web for verified messages from the breeder on this subject. Also regardless of parent plants being lost or not, Serious tends to modify their strains at times.
 

chefboy6969

OverGrow Refugee
Veteran
If any thing wouldn't it be pre-2000, since that's when Simon made the modifications, no?
But all I was trying to convey is, pre-whatever Kali Mist is just to determine if it is pre-modded Kali mist, unlike pre98 bubba kush for example, which is a single plant.

yes ok pre-2000 Kali Mist....after that it was never the same..

peace
Chefboy
 

Weird

3rd-Eye Jedi
Veteran
I forget the source but I know a select few that recall the same story, basically that there was a loss of mothers back late 90's early 2000 time period. Not saying it as if it is gospel but I heard it back then and others confirmed they heard the same.

I know people who ran serious and sensi stock in the 90's and it was all fire

I ran serious seeds brought over in 08-09, bubblegum, kali and white russian. The kali was pretty good, did get an indica pheno. The sativa was cerebral enough
 

Big City

Member
A lot of people talking Kali Mist that probably haven't grown the current version or any version for that matter.

I have.

Kali Mist hasn't changed in 13 years.

It was changed twice. Once in 98 to the version everyone hated. And again in 2000 back to the sativa leaning hybrid that everyone loved before.

As for comparing it to something someone smoked 15 years ago. Well, that's pretty hard. Plus, this is a poly hybrid so there are some phenos to dig through. But, it's not hard to find a great plant or two in a pack of these.

Look, you can't recreate your Amsterdam coffee shop experience of 20 years ago in your living room in front of your TV. And, I think a lot of what people say is based purely on nostalgia.

This is their best strain ive grown from them. If you haven't grown this strain from seed in the last 13 years, please don't perpetuate false myths about it being different.
 

Jhhnn

Active member
Veteran
A lot of people talking Kali Mist that probably haven't grown the current version or any version for that matter.

I have.

Kali Mist hasn't changed in 13 years.

It was changed twice. Once in 98 to the version everyone hated. And again in 2000 back to the sativa leaning hybrid that everyone loved before.

As for comparing it to something someone smoked 15 years ago. Well, that's pretty hard. Plus, this is a poly hybrid so there are some phenos to dig through. But, it's not hard to find a great plant or two in a pack of these.

Look, you can't recreate your Amsterdam coffee shop experience of 20 years ago in your living room in front of your TV. And, I think a lot of what people say is based purely on nostalgia.

This is their best strain ive grown from them. If you haven't grown this strain from seed in the last 13 years, please don't perpetuate false myths about it being different.

Memory is a funny thing, and not necessarily as reliable as we might like.

It seems odd to me to find stoners going on about the yewstabees. Reminds me of teabaggers getting all misty eyed over Reagan, who never was who they thought, and definitely never was who they remember.
 

brennye

Member
I would be glad if the Kali mist seeds available currently were better/equal to what I have. I'm sure I will stuff up a round of clones eventually, and would be devastated if I couldn't get more!
 
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