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No-Till Design, Theory & Implementation

Gascanastan

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I've randomly broadcast Red Crimson,Dutch White,Tibetan barley,and a cover crop containing rye and vetch in the back field....and I do think they are coming up. It's future horse food...for worm food.
 

ClackamasCootz

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I planted a small handful of the Tibetan barley seeds and spread them here & there for some reason that escapes me right now. Looks like I had a good germination rate because there's new barley plants all around.

New concept in companion planting - LOL
 

xmobotx

ecks moe baw teeks
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the 'grass-grain' component of my ley rotation scheme did suffer a setback this season ~1st it was no rain then; 1 rain came so heavy it knocked the barley over {they have a specific term for that which i dont rmbr now}

just before our trip to oregon; the rains kinda came along like 'oh was i on the schedule today?' & it's been raining here and there {about right really} since {kinda look'n for a nice warm day to come now}

anyway; alfalfa i was concerned about is setting pretty good and i see some clover really volunteer'd in the barley area ~nice and green where they are

not sure if i will see carrots but i do see some of the sugar beets going on for the 'root crop' component of my rotation ~of course there are some clovers volunteer'n there too!

i kinda saw this thread as a 'container no-till' deal but; the indoor version defo borrows from the outdoor version no?

the rotation goes; legumes/grass grain/root crops/ca$h crop/repeat ~FYI
 

Neo 420

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Coba
You gonna rock it whether its a 5 gallon or 45 gallon. 5 gallons just wasn't a fit with my style of growing. I veg way to long sometimes and it created some hassles for me down the road. What are you gonna try? The two 10 gallons or the single pot?

BJW
No till ROLS ...
Yes sir.. Its definitely a game changer in respect to life. Speaking of ROLS, my buckwheat cover has started to emerge!!!
 

ClackamasCootz

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Neo 420

This is a question and not a statement: Did you mention that you were seeing shorter flowering times using fresh coconut water? Or am I out to lunch on that one?

Thanks for any help!

CC
 
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BlueJayWay

dogfishheadie

Some strains perform quite well going directly into flower after being rooted, others not so much - the trick is to find the right ones!

I have a blue orca x cherry bomb 'stretchy' pheno that was transplanted into a no-till the day it started 12/12 - it was 4" tall, in two weeks it grew to 38" before it stopped growing - this plant will give me an oz of fat nuggets. Another strain 'M2' transplanted in the same scenario, grows from 4" to 6" or 7" and makes one solid fat flower, each plant around 1/8oz to 1/4 oz tops.....
 

whiteberrieS

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Just for the newbies running tap, fill it up with the hottest water the tap will make before bed and feed your plants in the morning. All the chlorine will be gone.
 

invocation

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Neo 420

This is a question and not a statement: Did you mention that you were seeing shorter flowering times using fresh coconut water? Or am I out to lunch on that one?

Thanks for any help!

CC

I mentioned this along time ago back in the old thread. Not sure if I'm mistaken, but my stuff will finish a few days faster than it used to after coconut. I use both powder and fresh when I can.

Is this possible???:plant grow:
 

Bonzo

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siiighhh...i've been putting off making my next round of soil to start my no-tills...guess i have no choice after reading this thread.

have a scrog setup here, enough room for either (3) 18 gallon rubber maids and or (2-3) 20 gallon smart pots, need to double check our measurements when i'm back in the garden. currently have 5 girls going in their final five gallon homes right now, LST'd into the netting, going on week six today in veg. my first run growing here so i don't have a baseline in terms of yield just yet, but i'm thinking that your test run with the just rooted clones going right into flower might be our best option, SOG if you will. i'll be waiting with high high hopes pal, pictures along the way would be the bees knees as my partner is more of a "see it to believe it" kinda dude.

haven't had a chance to clone just yet, but how many cuttings do you think you could fit in a 20 gal smartie? would ya end up with just 2-3 giant nuggets pet cutting? from an ease of use standpoint it's a no brainer; keep a mom, take cuttings, smoke bowl, plant cuttings, forget about them then harvest. no need to mess with training, bending, tying, scrogging and all that shennangins. don't get me wrong, i love it...but yea....i don't have any other reason aside from it hurts my back to keep going in and out of our secret room

:peek:

hello there :)

this is one of my friend schrews grows: rubbermaid tubs, soil, and a whole lotta cuts :) similar to what your thinkin about.

Blue you and your friends here amaze me...i am a hydro guy and want to try some organic sunshine mix kinda thingy but find it very scary...one of these days!:peacock:
 

Neo 420

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Neo 420

This is a question and not a statement: Did you mention that you were seeing shorter flowering times using fresh coconut water? Or am I out to lunch on that one?

Thanks for any help!

CC

I was seeing all the mature indicators much earlier in all of the plants I use coconut water on and this still happens currently. Finishing times was a tad bit early but indicators like red hairs and cloudy trichs popped early.

EDIT*

I use fresh young organic coconuts only. I would grow a coconut tree if I could.

BTW
I am growing chamomile in the "med" garden this year. Anybody knows the affects of a chamomile soak or FPE?
 

ClackamasCootz

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Neo 420

Under the Biodynamic Farming tenets, Chamomile is one of the 7 Biodynamic Preparations: BD #503

If you search with 'biodynamic farming' and 'bd #503' then you will have hundreds & hundreds of pages with links.

HTH

CC
 
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BlueJayWay

I've never made an FPE - I'd rather compost, run through worms or mulch it....a 24hr botanical tea if that...
 
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dogfishheadie

hello there :)

this is one of my friend schrews grows: rubbermaid tubs, soil, and a whole lotta cuts :) similar to what your thinkin about.

Blue you and your friends here amaze me...i am a hydro guy and want to try some organic sunshine mix kinda thingy but find it very scary...one of these days!:peacock:

appreciate the info! any idea as to what he's able to achieve in terms of a yield? oh and you've just slipped into the rabbit hole over here friend, you're in for a long, deep journey if you're serious about getting into the rols / no till game. it's relativity cheap to get into and you're able to forage / grow / cultivate / compost / worm farm just about everything you'll need moving forward.


no need to be scared, spark up a fat one and peruse through some of the sticked threads, gold mines throughout them. check out the "rols - soils/teas/ipm", pretty much all the golden ticket information extracted / sorted from the original living soil thread.

hope to see ya around!
 

invocation

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I've never made an FPE - I'd rather compost, run through worms or mulch it....a 24hr botanical tea if that...

I agree with you BlueJayWay. What is a FPE going to give us better than we are already getting from the 24 hour bubbled teas and the super high quality vermicompost?

This a general question to anyone, to convince me personally, that a FPE is going to be some game changer.

Vermicompost is the holy grail. That should be the focus. Since this awaking, I've acquired some good books on the subject and my bin is growing nicely. I keep a nice little dried bag of worm food (kelp, neem, herbs, rock dust,) along side like you would keep for a pet. With the dried I also in corporate mix fruits/veggie scraps and they are loving it.

No-till on! :blowbubbles:
 

Neo 420

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I've never made an FPE - I'd rather compost, run through worms or mulch it....a 24hr botanical tea if that...

My 13 gallon seems to be running low (mid flower). I plan on top dressing with kelp/ewc/compost and want to add a soak or FPE. Its on its 3rd cycle and I topped dress after every harvest.
Does anyone have a general all around plant material tea? I'm gong to try a chamo soak and agitation but it looks like its mainly calcium.

I want to stick with growing (when I can) all my soak and FPE materials. I don't do many FPE's either. I have only tried alfalfa.
 

invocation

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My 13 gallon seems to be running low (mid flower). I plan on top dressing with kelp/ewc/compost and want to add a soak or FPE. Its on its 3rd cycle and I topped dress after every harvest.
Does anyone have a general all around plant material tea? I'm gong to try a chamo soak and agitation but it looks like its mainly calcium.

I want to stick with growing (when I can) all my soak and FPE materials. I don't do many FPE's either. I have only tried alfalfa.

Not meaning to clog BJW thread with my questions, but please tell me what I may be missing with the FPE. I've only read about them and never actually used them.
 

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