GrowingcrazY 2013 Log: Vert Organic 650 Soil Bed

[growingcrazy]

Day 11 Veg

Day 11 Veg

Veg progress..plants are now into full on new growth and are on day 11.


WW x stsm indica

Satori

Malawi 2

Malawi 1

And an entire bed shot with malawi mom in the back and the dad in the front..

 

[growingcrazy]

Well I have been given the opportunity to enlarge my grow from the 4x7 veg/flower/mechanical room I am currently using to a 10 x 11 bedroom that will be split into 2 spaces.. The flower side will be 6x10 with a 10k window ac. veg will be a 5 x 7 room.

I plan to run in no-till containers anywhere from 20-30 gallons in size. Vegged for 10 or so weeks in the final containers and then moved to flower.

My big dilemma is lighting. I have the ability to run either one donut or 2 in the room. That leaves lighting up in the air.. I can run 2 600's side by side, 2 400's stacked side by side, 2 600's only one stack, possibly just 1 1000.

I am really considering the gavita 600 with the Phillips 400v bulb if I go the 600 route.. I could buy one now and one in the future when I have the ability...

Im lost in lighting lol..anyone have any opinions..

I am trying to keep the 10k btu window ac, so right now either a lumatek dual 600 ballast with 2 separate donuts or same balast stacked with 1 donut in the room..

Or buy 1 gavita 600 and do a single donut until I can afford a second and then run 2 donuts with dual gavitas vertically..

This is the space with my two idea so far..

Flower on left, veg in top right, and bedroom doorway is in lower right..

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[Critter]

This is very interesting, I like your style man

You should add some red wigglers to the bed, maybe you already have.

 

[Hurk]

To be honest to me it seems like not enough lighting for the space. Most people recommend at least 50w per square foot. That would be 3000w for a 10'x6' room. I guess you could always keep the plants closer to the lights though, but you wouldn't be using all the space.
I think 5 600's in this kind of pattern would be ideal:
oxo
xox
oxo
The o's being 600w lights and the x's being plants.
If you run the lights at night you might be able to get by with that a/c, depending on your climate.
Something to think about anyway.

 

[growingcrazy]

This is very interesting, I like your style man

You should add some red wigglers to the bed, maybe you already have.

Already quite a few in there. They have been in this soil for over 4 years now. When I pull back the mulch layer they quickly burrow away from the light!

Thanks for stoppin in Critter!

To be honest to me it seems like not enough lighting for the space. Most people recommend at least 50w per square foot. That would be 3000w for a 10'x6' room. I guess you could always keep the plants closer to the lights though, but you wouldn't be using all the space.
I think 5 600's in this kind of pattern would be ideal:
oxo
xox
oxo
The o's being 600w lights and the x's being plants.
If you run the lights at night you might be able to get by with that a/c, depending on your climate.
Something to think about anyway.

I would love to, but not yet. I don't want to jump from a 4x4 soil bed to a fully packed room.. maybe in the future.

I want to be able to move the plants in relation to the bulbs. All of my screens will be attached to the pots to make everything mobile..possibly casters as well.

I am really considering doing stacked 600's with 4 plants around them. Once that is dialed it shouldn't be hard to setup another donut and get them both dialed. I just don't think the current AC will keep up with 2400 watts.

I probably should have mentioned, I only have 20 amps of 240v for lighting in the flower room..if I could add I would but its my limit..


Thanks Hurk for your time and info..it's got me thinking now about a setup like you mention..

Peace
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[growingcrazy]

day 16 veg

day 16 veg

Satori day 16

ww x stsm indica

Malawi 2

Malawi 1

I turned the 250 on a few days ago and dropped the 400 down right on top of it.. It got a bit warm for a couple days but now all is well..

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[NKOTS]

Hey hey now that's a cool thread i only found now
Doing great job and thx for sharing all that, bro.

Peace

 

[growingcrazy]

Hey hey now that's a cool thread i only found now
Doing great job and thx for sharing all that, bro.

Peace

Thanks for the kind words NKOTS!

I will have some veg progress pics soon..

 

[NKOTS]

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Thanks for the kind words NKOTS!

I will have some veg progress pics soon..

Cannot wait!

Stay relaxed, crazy!

 

[growingcrazy]

Well, finally an update.

The plants in the bed are on day 21 from flip as of tomorrow. I will have some update flower pics once there is something worthy of taking a picture of..lol

Here are a few pictures of the next round that will be going into my new room setup..

I will have PCK, Nepalese Jam and Panama from Ace seeds, as well as 2 Nirvana white widow F2's and a Nirvana white widow x stsm indica. Once the males and females are sorted they will go into my new veg tent under metal halides.

These are all under f14 t5.

Nepalese Jam

PCK

And a group shot of all the plants for next round in my veg cabinet

I haven't had much time for photo's or updates. I have been working on planning and building the new room.

It will consist of a 4x4 veg and a 6 x 6 flower room. Veg will have a 400w MH and flower will be two stacked Phillips greenpower 600EL lamps with gavita ballasts..

Still lots of work to do..building containers for the no till pots, electrical, air conditioning all that, while trying to be as effiecent as possible.

Until next time..

Peace
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[NKOTS]

Wow your plants look really healthy!
Keep the good work and keep us updated

Peace!

 

[Sunnyvale]

Nice looking garden you have here

 

[growingcrazy]

Thanks NKOTS and Sunnyvale! Good to see some people still checking in!


Got these today, they should be some fun.

peace
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[growingcrazy]

Getting ready to transplant the vegging plants to #3 nursery pots and put them under the 400. All will be going into the same soil mix that is currently in there pots

Will be starting the CSG testers this weekend also! Lots to do this weekend including picking up all the new lighting!


The plants in veg are starting to sex and I was surprised by purple pistils coming out of one of PCK's.

Will have some updates in a few days.


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[Drvktr]

went through this thread a second time and amazed! radical setup dude! Is that a pine tree in there as well?

 

[NKOTS]

pistils! hooray!

 

[growingcrazy]

went through this thread a second time and amazed! radical setup dude! Is that a pine tree in there as well?

It sure is, I was given some ponderosa pine seeds a few years ago from a friend in oregon. Someday they will be a twisted bonsai, but that may be awhile.

pistils! hooray!

That is what I said!

So far I have 2 x white widow, ww x stsm and the 1 pck that have preflowered. So 4 of 12 so far are female, hopefully more to come!

Peace
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[growingcrazy]

This is what the veg side is looking like tonight.. Got 7 females so far from the 12 I started with.

1 nepalese jam
2 panama
1 pck
2 white widow F2
1 white widow x stsm indica f1

I hope they enjoy there new home, they have about 6 more weeks in veg before the flower is ready to go.

In order starting in front and going clockwise.

Panama in front, nepalese jam to left, ww x stsm top left, ww top right, ww on right, and pck on lower right with another panama in the center.

I just realized these are 56 days from the seeds going into soil..


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[growingcrazy]

Here we are at day 59 of veg.

It seems like the plants are liking there new homes under the 400w metal halide. Gave them a 45 hour brewed ACT yesterday. Things are looking well this far!

I wanted to get a good veg shot of the leaf patterns so here they are...

First up is my Nirvana white widow F2 that I made. I have two of these in veg, they are very similar in all traits so far.

Next up is a PCK from Ace. This plant was the runt of the group and is finally taking off. It is the plant that preflowered with pure purple pistols. If nothing else hopefully it will at least be the pretty one!

These next two are Panama from Ace. The first one did not like the soil it went into, I think it was just to hot for it. It is hard to believe since I haven't had anything else do that.

This is a nepalese jam from Ace. Doing quite well like the rest.

 

[growingcrazy]

Here are the final veg shots.

Nirvana white widow male x sam the skunkman indica. This is a cross I made and only popped one seed so far. That plant is the wwxstsm I was running in the past and in my current soil bed.

This is another seed from that same cross and so far it is looking even better than the last.

And a full veg tent shot for fun..

This is the only flower room shot I have. Pretty disappointing at the moment. I had to flower too quick to get this run done and onto the new room. It will still be good but not around for long..lol

I will be popping the CSG testers as soon as I get my mum/clone cab setup in the new room.

Peace
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