CannaZyme thats some potent shit

[toppin]

Nice side by side experiment thank for taking the time, $€£ and effort to do this. Happy with ur results as i already use the canna. what was the biggist let down of product in regards to price?

 

[LEX-UK]

I thought hygrozyme was the most expensive? As it has a shelf life.. Did u state the best before dates of the bottles?

 

[Buds Bundy]

I thought hygrozyme was the most expensive? As it has a shelf life.. Did u state the best before dates of the bottles?

No didn't say that as the point was to see which product dissolved the paper. Also the Green Planet one is powdered and suppose to have infinite shelf life.

My first test that I did the Grozyme paper was still intact after a week in solution.

Now do these products actually contribute anything to your plants, who knows, its such a small variable in the growth cycle especially in dirt (peat) that I doubt it makes any difference. The products are designed to dissolve dead root mattervto keep away root rot, problem is you'd have to be retarded to get root rot in peat based grows.

Also the test here was a 50/50 dilution rate which is way higher than what you actually use.

 

[Buds Bundy]

Nice side by side experiment thank for taking the time, $€£ and effort to do this. Happy with ur results as i already use the canna. what was the biggist let down of product in regards to price?

Well my next test should probably be to see if these products actaully disolve dead root matter at the ratio on the bottles. I think the best way to test this would be to grow 12 plants (use two per product), clean off the peat medium off the roots, let them grow in the dwc system for a week or two, pull them out and let them sit in air for a day so the roots go brown/dead, then put them back in each tank and use the enzymes.

Biggest let down is definitely Grozyme as from their statements it says it cleans the root system and its the best yada yada, so is the product an enzyme or is it beneficial microbes?

 

[Buds Bundy]

Ok one more video of day 3. Made up closer view of the paper in each jar http://vimeopro.com/gardentech/videos


So this the break down

1. Winner - Canna Cannzyme
2. Advanced SensiZyme
3. Green Planet Zyme Caps
4. Grortek Hydrozyme
5. Hesi Power clean and Gryzyme (aka Hygrozyme) both os these the paper stayed intact.

 

[toppin]

Well my next test should probably be to see if these products actaully disolve dead root matter at the ratio on the bottles. I think the best way to test this would be to grow 12 plants (use two per product), clean off the peat medium off the roots, let them grow in the dwc system for a week or two, pull them out and let them sit in air for a day so the roots go brown/dead, then put them back in each tank and use the enzymes.

Biggest let down is definitely Grozyme as from their statements it says it cleans the root system and its the best yada yada, so is the product an enzyme or is it beneficial microbes?

Look forward to seeing the results. Its a shame we have to test every product in this way ( just to see if they work ) but I myself dont have much trust in alot of these componys they all claim there stuff is the best and it does this and that but does it really?

Keep up the good work buds bundy your helpping future customers of these products make the right choices and not get ripped off. Respect for that

 

[Buds Bundy]

Heh so I showed the video to one of my suppliers who then phoned a manufacture who makes enzyme/benny like products and they told him the test doesn't prove anything and what enzymes do in the media is way more complex than can be shown with s simple paper test.

What's really funny is that in Canada most of these products can't state what they do as they would require registration numbers or not be allowed to be sold hence the Zym(e) and not Enzyme in most product names.

So I'm like that's great, when I see a manufacture post some real life test/paper work and state what really is in their products then I'll promote that product over others. As far as I know these products could contain straight water.

A lot of times I have a hard time selling some of these product to customers.

 

[jorgeblen]

I've done this test before but only Cannazym x Hygrozyme. Cannazym won by far.
Could try this with apple souce instead of paper?

 

[Buds Bundy]

Next one will be with real plants and brown roots with on the label proportions.

 

[TribalSeeds]

I thought hygrozyme was the most expensive? As it has a shelf life.. Did u state the best before dates of the bottles?

Cannazym has a shelf life, but from what I remember hygrozyme doesnt.

 

[Buds Bundy]

Cannazym has a shelf life, but from what I remember hygrozyme doesnt.

But seriously how long you go gonna store it for and if it doesn't do what its suppose to do, it can have an infinite shelf life all it wants.

The bottles I have of the Canna Zyme have an expiry date of April 2015. Plenty of time to use it.

 

[habeeb]

thank you for the time / money to put this together..

much appreciated, as we all don't take participation to this level on here.....

we'll you've shown me if I use a product, canna gets my money.. I've been digging canna back with bio canna, and now using there coco line, they obviously make very good products, it's why I think you don't seem them throwing out 20 products, they care more about how there products perform vs. making money.


Thanks again man


does anyone know the name of the H&G product? I have some bottles in storage when I get another house, and got samples from them, so I should have the H&G product to run a test on..

 

[Buds Bundy]

thank you for the time / money to put this together..

much appreciated, as we all don't take participation to this level on here.....

we'll you've shown me if I use a product, canna gets my money.. I've been digging canna back with bio canna, and now using there coco line, they obviously make very good products, it's why I think you don't seem them throwing out 20 products, they care more about how there products perform vs. making money.


Thanks again man


does anyone know the name of the H&G product? I have some bottles in storage when I get another house, and got samples from them, so I should have the H&G product to run a test on..

Didn't really cost me too much just wrote the stock off or discounted it to anyone who wanted to buy a bottle short a few mil's

A customer of mine used the Canna Substra (Vega/Flores) with Bio Canna for his last crop. I believe he didn't use any PK boosters like PK 13/14 (Normaly uses Big Bud) and he didn't get as much weight. Now he did love how the plants looked up to crop time. Will see he's gonna do the same thing but add Big Bud in.

He uses
Canna Substra (Vega/Flores)
Rhizotonic (said his plants that received Rhizo took off way faster after transplant than the ones with out it)
CannaZyme
BioCanna
Zho Powder

 

[Treetroit City]

habeeb, H&G's product is called multizen.

 

[Epiphyte]

My 2 cents: I have always used bioroot, maxicrop and other things to improve my roots. I also grow old ass plants in really small pots. I have now been using cannazym since just a couple of days after this thread was started...I just did my usually transplanting and have noticed significant root health improvement...Some dead roots, which I expect from my lazy personal grow ways, but much more white roots which seem bigger than ever before....Cannazym, I'm sold!

 

[whatthe215]

i've been using Pondzyme with Barley by Pond Care with great results. $10 for a jar that mixes 10,000 gallons and they sell it at almost every pond or aquarium store.

would be cool to see it side by side with the hydro stuff.

 

[Kit Kat]

^

I saved this thread from awhile back that specifically talks about using pond cleaners as a much cheaper alternative to the zyme products in hydro stores.

The main difference in enzyme products sold in hydroponics stores is that some of them, like Cannazym, contain live microbes (which they use as selling point) while Hygrozyme and SensiZym are sterile (which THEY use as a selling point).

What’s interesting is that pond enzyme products make the same selling points about either being loaded with live microbes, or being sterile. Often times of two products offered by the same seller one will contain micro-life and one will be sterile - just as in done in the hydroponics market. The REAL difference between enzymes sold for use in ponds, and enzymes sold for hydroponics use is their concentrations.

 

[whatthe215]

kit kat, that's what turned me on to it. i had never used a zyme before since i had just switched to coco and immediately got the pondclear. stuff works fine, i've never seen root rot and im currently on my second round in the same coco.

i use a big pinch per 30gal res and all good. bigger pinch between runs to clear the coco of all roots.

 

[Buds Bundy]

There is a pond cleaner called Benefox which has been marketed for the hydro market for a few years. Their pricing is inline with similar products in the industry so overpriced for what the product is but it is one of the better products out there. I've been told the bacteria/enzymes are plant food friendly so nitrates wont kill them but that's coming from a supplier.

 

[nuskool89]

i've been using Pondzyme with Barley by Pond Care with great results. $10 for a jar that mixes 10,000 gallons and they sell it at almost every pond or aquarium store.

would be cool to see it side by side with the hydro stuff.

nailed it on the head!