The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[theJointedOne]

OrganicP- -dang man you are in the lead so far this season....fucking impressive to say the least...

love how clean your spot is, i did a garden tour this week and saw some spots that were so dirty it was sad...

keep it up man, your doing awesome

 

[mapinguari]

That's cool. oP's photo shows where a 2x6 (or was that a 2x12?) was used to facilitate planting without soil compaction.

 

[YosemiteSam]

So I sent some Black and Gold Natural and Organic in for a soil test...straight out the bag.

The cec is 34.82 me, the humus content is 34.4% , and the pH is 6.2. That level of humus is just shocking to me...and a bunch of nutrients come along with it. S in ppm is 175, P2O5 in lbs per acre (divide by 2 for ppm) is 988, Ca is 8250 lbs/acre, Mg is 997 lbs/acre, K is 1636 lbs/acre, Na is 898 lbs/acre. The trace minerals in ppm are B, 2.15, Fe 267, Mn 63, Cu 3.4 and Zn 42.1.

Base cation saturations are Ca 59.23, Mg 11.93, K 6.02, Na 5.61, H 12.0, and all others 5.21

Obviously that level of Na is not good. Not sure if that is typical or not. Plus that is a shitload of Fe.

It was not that way two yrs ago. I am disappointed.

 

[Veg N Out]

Do you know what plant the bg you measured was mixed at? I know it varies by region..

 

[YosemiteSam]

I will look at the bag. We normally get the west coast stuff...but this one had less pumice and more perlite than I remember.

Part of the issue is it could just be an anomaly...who knows

 

[Biosynthesis]

Excellent!

 

[Veg N Out]

The Heat Is On!

The Heat Is On!

Been about 3 weeks since I put my Betsy's in, they've been doing great..

Here they are a few days after planting on 4/28

And today on 5/11

The weather has been so nice that I skipped building hoops over my trenches and just plugged my OGs in...Here they are after a week of life in the Sun...You can see about how big they were when I put them in from the tie-up tape..I'll be mowing around them tomorrow

I've dosed everything with Calcium 25, I'm getting ready to hit them with some PPD and another dose of Calcium 25 since the forecast is showing good sun and temperatures..

I'll also be testing the Albion Calcium and Calcium with Boron.

I hope every one has been making great progress and has been as blessed with the weather as we have here at the Summer Camp!

In a few days I'm going to put in my 7 Heart Attack Kush in to my new patch!


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[Donner707]

Here are my Girls. I started them around the 20th of March, and put them in the ground about a month later. Their all blue dream bx from GRS! The soil is amazing, its a blend from gorilla gro. Just in the last two day's i've seen them start to explode in growth, and look allot happier in general.

 

[OrganicBuds]

I am having a problem sourcing Calcium 25. Can anybody give me a heads up on Extreme Gardens calcium product called CalCarb? IS that a good substitute or should I order the Calcium 25 on the net?

 

[boobs]

looking good Veg, like seeing the growth comparisons.

here's a shot of some stuff around our place, first pic is them after coming out of the cloudy and rainy weather we had from the 4th to the 8th, then the next pic is them after three days of sun and warmth. haven't even considered using any foilars, going to do a tea tonight though since we'll be flipping in a week.

strains are (left to right) blueberry, ghost og, twist og and mango haze.

 

[GoldCG]

I am having a problem sourcing Calcium 25. Can anybody give me a heads up on Extreme Gardens calcium product called CalCarb? IS that a good substitute or should I order the Calcium 25 on the net?

As far as efficiency you cannot go wrong with extreme garden products. I love the calcarb.

 

[OrganicBuds]

As far as efficiency you cannot go wrong with extreme garden products. I love the calcarb.

Thanks, coming from you I will take that recommendation to heart. The other problem with the Cal25 is you are suppose to spray with temps over 77 or something. In my area that is few and far between.

 

[Veg N Out]

The difference between the two is that Calcium 25 is actually not really a Calcium product..Its main active ingredient is Triacontanol..it is bonded to Calcium Chloride to keep it stable and preserve it...Cal Carb and Cal 25 aren't interchangeable and are both useful in their own ways..

 

[Cannabologist]

we need a vollunteer intern to make a comprehensive databased version of this thread. wikigrow. don't do it unless you are going to do it right. An old school index would be fine. Like: Subject page, page , page, page, etc. But doing all the work and not databasing it would be a waste of time.

I have the early version of the thread back when it was only 200+ pages remember in the new growing outdoor plants overgrow guide I compiled, most of the best info is there, but I’ve been working on an edit of that guide since with all the new stuff since in this thread, 200+ more pages now, and other threads. There is SO much info, its crazy. The info on teas I could post from MM is comprehensive in itself alone, deserving its own book. Which is more the real reason I haven’t gotten to it, as I am busy with my own things, AND working on a book/video(s) that will try and incorporate much of this info, or maybe be broken up into pieces, I don’t yet know, detailing methodologies for organic gardening in and out, teas, general botany and breeding, there is so much, it is almost easier to just leave the subject be and leave them newbs to the wolves and let em learn like I and we all mostly had; lots of readin and research!

 

[Yes4Prop215]

hows everyones veg starts looking? really wish i could start plugging these in like the rest of youse but unfortunately weather on my mountain isnt as nice...@ 3000 feet and still getting some cloudy days and cold nights...im aiming for last week of may into first week of june....


im almost worried some of my starts are too big...they were only transplanted from clone in early april and have all exploded in growth and many are approaching 3 feet. i have a few seedlings that are almost 4-5 feet tall as well...

 

[smoooth]

There a little big already

OG Skywalker

 

[YosemiteSam]

The difference between the two is that Calcium 25 is actually not really a Calcium product..Its main active ingredient is Triacontanol..it is bonded to Calcium Chloride to keep it stable and preserve it...Cal Carb and Cal 25 aren't interchangeable and are both useful in their own ways..

ding, ding, ding. dead on.

For a true Ca spray I prefer amino chelated Ca to CaCO3. With the amino chelate the Ca enters the plant as a molecule and can be translocated by the plant to where it is needed...including when the buds start to form.

CaCO3 provides a little CO2 to the stomata...but if your soil is BIG and alive you are getting plenty anyways.

 

[YosemiteSam]

looking good Veg, like seeing the growth comparisons.

here's a shot of some stuff around our place, first pic is them after coming out of the cloudy and rainy weather we had from the 4th to the 8th, then the next pic is them after three days of sun and warmth. haven't even considered using any foilars, going to do a tea tonight though since we'll be flipping in a week.


strains are (left to right) blueberry, ghost og, twist og and mango haze.

Those look great boobs, really heathy. Is that the worm factory soil?

Give em a little shot of Veg's Ca/B spray when you flip them...it seriously helps with bud set.

 

[boobs]

Those look great boobs, really heathy. Is that the worm factory soil?

Give em a little shot of Veg's Ca/B spray when you flip them...it seriously helps with bud set.

yes that's the worm factory soil, the growth is very good. and wow, could the weather be any better guys? amazing.

do you know how to order that stuff? it's from albionplantnutrition.com right?

 

[YosemiteSam]

I emailed them and they told me where to get it locally. Sometimes a little shot of Mg really jacks up chlorophyll production also...I tend to try it on one plant and measure brix before and after at the same time of day...if it goes up they all get it. For some reason it is easy for the plant not to take up Mg even though there is plenty in the soil

Albion isn't the only one though...I think JH Biotech or something like that has amino chelates also.