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2KW Tent :D NFT S.O.G H&G Nutrients
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Green_science
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I have 8ft ceilings. If I suspended this unit say 4ft off the ground do you think water would even collect below it? Thanks for answering all my questions budI really like to research something well before I go and make a purchase!
I would doubt it, you could always sit it in a little propagation that I doubt you would ever have to empty and if you did it would be every few weeks
Hat makes no difference to the output, I just have not got it on in this situation because it is such a small space it would be hitting one or two of the plants
Green_science
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So noting to interesting yet as the girls are still in veg, but heres some pic updates
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Skunkpassion
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Looking good...
Green_science
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16-20" I should have taken a photo after I done some magic on them, I literally super prune every plant, breaking the stems wall and bending them over, to make them bush out and let the lower branches catch up and create a canopy, so even though the plants are 18" tall, the canopy is probably 12" at the moment, I will flip these over after another prune in 7 days ish, I like my canopy crowded
I do not try to grow massive colas, it's not what I do, I like a crowded canopy of medium colas,
Thank's
I also like to train plants to create multiple heads, single large colas are a pita when it comes to bud rot, also the lower buds are usually quite small in comparison. As you point out many medium sized colas are the way to go.
Would rather run lots of clones (SOG) like 30 per 600w light, because I can't stand the time it takes to veg plants, Lol!! The numbers put a lil shiver up my spine since the sentencing guidelines were released not so long ago though
Started to use these plastic things called 'bendz' to get them into shape now, not sure if you've seen them at your hydro store or not, but they save the hassle of having to break necks daily and is also less stress on the plants.
I'm running a bunch of OG's at the minute with a couple of Sour D's and a single clone of a chemdawg cross that was from seed. The OG's (abusive and ghost) are stretchy feckers from what I could glean (as is the Sour D) so getting them to bush out is the only way to make them to give up the goods.
Oh yer.... how the heck did you manage to get the 10" acoustic ducting to fit through the small intake openings at the bottom of the tent
Would rather run lots of clones (SOG) like 30 per 600w light, because I can't stand the time it takes to veg plants, Lol!! The numbers put a lil shiver up my spine since the sentencing guidelines were released not so long ago though
Started to use these plastic things called 'bendz' to get them into shape now, not sure if you've seen them at your hydro store or not, but they save the hassle of having to break necks daily and is also less stress on the plants.
I'm running a bunch of OG's at the minute with a couple of Sour D's and a single clone of a chemdawg cross that was from seed. The OG's (abusive and ghost) are stretchy feckers from what I could glean (as is the Sour D) so getting them to bush out is the only way to make them to give up the goods.
Oh yer.... how the heck did you manage to get the 10" acoustic ducting to fit through the small intake openings at the bottom of the tent
Green_science
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Glad you think so too
No doubt about that, where I am I do not need to worry about sentencing, the reason I don't mostly do TRUE SOG, Is when doing larger grows, getting 1000+ healthy clones is sometimes just not possible, but I DO love true SOG.Would rather run lots of clones (SOG) like 30 per 600w light, because I can't stand the time it takes to veg plants, Lol!! The numbers put a lil shiver up my spine since the sentencing guidelines were released not so long ago though
Never heard of them thank's for the heads up, you got a link?
Oh yer.... how the heck did you manage to get the 10" acoustic ducting to fit through the small intake openings at the bottom of the tent
Hehehehe, I carefully cut off a few ft of the outside layer of the acoustic ducting, so it was still intact, minus the inside layer, I then pulled through the inside layer of the ducting through the tent, then I put the outside layer that I cut off and kept intact back on inside the tent
I added a picture to help explain
djslife
Active member
Hey there GreenScience,
I've read a little about NFT, but not enough. Are there any threads you could recommend for me to get a solid understanding of the grow style?
Aside from that, I appreciate how clean your setup is. Everything looks symmetrical, makes me feel good inside, haha. The OCD is a blessing and curse!
Definitely subbed
-djslife
I've read a little about NFT, but not enough. Are there any threads you could recommend for me to get a solid understanding of the grow style?
Aside from that, I appreciate how clean your setup is. Everything looks symmetrical, makes me feel good inside, haha. The OCD is a blessing and curse!
Definitely subbed
-djslife
Ghostdark11
New member
Liking a lot.......
No need to worry about sentencing aye, wow! I need to move to where your at!
True, clones are a pita to get hold of in such numbers unless your doing them yourself. Even then it's a headache maintaining so many.
Yes bro, here you go:
http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_4138.html
This is how they work...
Thanks for the visual of how you get the ducting through, will have to copy that in future!
How are the plants coming along now?
Green_science
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Hey there GreenScience,
I've read a little about NFT, but not enough. Are there any threads you could recommend for me to get a solid understanding of the grow style?
Aside from that, I appreciate how clean your setup is. Everything looks symmetrical, makes me feel good inside, haha. The OCD is a blessing and curse!
Definitely subbed
-djslife
Not sure of any threads going into the workings of NFT itself, but I did post a diagram in another thread of mine
Long story short, a tray is positioned with one end being slightly elevated, a pump pumps water from the reservoir (which sits under the lower end of the tray), to the higher end of the tray, gravity pulls the water down the tray, (feeding plants) and back into the reservoir, it's whats called a recirculating system, you'r plants are usually placed inside rockwall cubes, a spreader mat is placed inside the tray before you place plants to help spread water ad give roots something to grip, holes are cut out of a corr-ex or plastic cover, which is placed over the tray before placing plants (to stop light hitting roots), here is a little video explaining it
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Thank you for you're comments, the funny thing is you are completely right, I suffer from severe OCD and have since a young dude pretty sure it was the drugs but that's a whole other story, anyway welcome, good to have you around
Thank you mate, welcome
No need to worry about sentencing aye, wow! I need to move to where your at!
True, clones are a pita to get hold of in such numbers unless your doing them yourself. Even then it's a headache maintaining so many.
Yes bro, here you go:
http://www.progrow.co.uk/acatalog/info_4138.html
This is how they work...
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Thanks for the visual of how you get the ducting through, will have to copy that in future!
How are the plants coming along now?
Nice one for the link and pics Shhh, I just ordered a few packs, they seem like a great idea.
Hmm the plants were flipped over a few days back, not much to show really, I will post a few pics soon though because there is something I would like to show, (whom ever cares) in short, its how I let the plants around the outer edges and in between the lights get a little taller, almost to make a stadium effect. Here is some bud porn though of what I have been chopping the last few days, pretty dank.
Green_science
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NOT THIS GROW
Looking awesome man.
I always know someone is good at doing this when their rooms are so clean and you have everything meticulously set up.
That humid in veg is really interesting. I've heard people claim it makes them grow faster, but I have always been a little skeptical. Is there a scientific reason why these things do better in high humids?
Also you put your temp/humidity meter not under the lights. Maybe I'm just dumb but I always put my therm. directly under the hottest point of my light to see where the hottest point of my tent is. Like to keep all the buddies cool.
Stay safe man and thanks for posting. This site has become my bible over the last few years, and a LOT of people have great advice. When I checked other forums the discussion was never in depth or as detail oriented that I liked.
On here its awesome I can see what you guys do and just look at all your pictures and mimic my favorite set ups. I don't know how you older heads did this without the internet!
I always know someone is good at doing this when their rooms are so clean and you have everything meticulously set up.
That humid in veg is really interesting. I've heard people claim it makes them grow faster, but I have always been a little skeptical. Is there a scientific reason why these things do better in high humids?
Also you put your temp/humidity meter not under the lights. Maybe I'm just dumb but I always put my therm. directly under the hottest point of my light to see where the hottest point of my tent is. Like to keep all the buddies cool.
Stay safe man and thanks for posting. This site has become my bible over the last few years, and a LOT of people have great advice. When I checked other forums the discussion was never in depth or as detail oriented that I liked.
On here its awesome I can see what you guys do and just look at all your pictures and mimic my favorite set ups. I don't know how you older heads did this without the internet!
Purple turtle
Member
GS, thanks for sharing ....
BY the looks of things youve got your environment/room crisp,, its all in the roots!!..which u got handled by the looks of them beautiful colas.Gotta love s.o.g...
pt
Green_science
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Thank's buddy, I agree with ya completely it seems like NFT is fading away, I have no idea why, I think it's a great system, these days I notice a lot of people, even pedigree hydro heads, are switching to coco, I do not mess with dirt at all, "usually" but I have just set up something in dirt Ill get a few pics up when things start to take off
Thank's for you're kind words and putting forward some good questions.
Humidity: this is a little tricky, but, due to the higher vapor pressure and the fact that when molecules diffuse they go from a higher concentration to a lower concentration, dryer air should cause a plant to transpire faster.
Humidity inside plants can be very near 100%, this is the reasoning on why placing a dome over clones is common practice, If the surrounding environment is saturated, %98 RH, vapor pressure will decrease and transpiration will slow, that's great for newly chopped clones, because they have no roots, and no way to take up water (mostly).
In light of the above statement, why don't we all just drop our RH down to %10, and give our plants massive amounts of water and get them transpiring-->growing like crazy, seems like a reasonable question?
Problem is once relative humidity starts dropping, plants actually "transpire" less (think desert cactus), lower humidity doesn't encourage a plant to transpire it actually discourages it, stomata (the organs responsible for transpiration) stay closed, less co2 enters the plant and transpiration slows, here is an example of what happens when you mix high co2 ppms with HIGH RH
Very high humidity, sometimes %90+, is "mostly" the reason tropical rain forest look like this
Worth noting is that rain forest bamboo has been recorded growing nearly 3ft in a day, in comparison, saguaro cactus (a desert plant) growing just 1ft every 12 years.
As for you're temperature reading placement, with careful placement of extraction, intakes and plenty of air movement and exchange, you can get a pretty consistent temperature at canopy level through out you're space, (as mine is)
Measuring the very hottest point of you're room is not important, could be greatly misleading is certainly not going to be you're mean temperature, for example, the hottest point in my room may be 110 degrees (1/2" under a 1kw HPS, or even above it), but 99% of my canopy is purposefully at 78-82d, in comparison, the hottest point in "you're" room may be 80d, but 99% of you're canopy may be at 60d (bad times), measuring the hottest point of you're canopy is of coarse important, however if you set things up just right, (specially when using the right air cooled hoods), then 1ft "directly" under you're bulb,(canopy height) can be a very similar temperature to 1ft below you're bulb (canopy height) at the furthest corner of you're growing space.
What I am saying is that, even if my probes/measuring devices was off center in the room they would still be very accurate.
When setting up my spaces, I make sure everything is as intended by running test as/after I setup, I do not just hang a thermometer in the middle of the room after everything is up and running and take it as gospel.
Now because I know my rooms environmental factors are consistent through out it makes sense for me to measure from the very center of the room, hope I answered you're questions and good to have you around.
GS, thanks for sharing ....
BY the looks of things youve got your environment/room crisp,, its all in the roots!!..which u got handled by the looks of them beautiful colas.Gotta love s.o.g...
pt
Roots Roots Roots .... and more roots, Important Important Important ... and more important, Haha, thanks for the compliment, and stick around things are just starting to get exciting, PS I stuck another bulb in there, 600w hps verticle style
Thats really neat green.
Thats really neat green.
I can't believe something would grow 3+ feet a day. I sometimes think if only humans had some growth properties like plants. (i think that might be a discussion for a diff. forum though!)
Thanks for that explanation green. I have started experimenting with this humidity and will let you guys know the results.
My experiment will be a comparison and measured in a rate of growth in inches per day comparing two clones in two different tents with diff. humidities. One will be at around 50-60% and I'll turn the other tent up to around 85%.
That therm. thing was interesting too. Your right you gotta look at mean temps and how you have your fans blowing. I sometimes just get too crazy with my setup, because it always has to work out if you know what I mean
Thats really neat green.
I can't believe something would grow 3+ feet a day. I sometimes think if only humans had some growth properties like plants. (i think that might be a discussion for a diff. forum though!)
Thanks for that explanation green. I have started experimenting with this humidity and will let you guys know the results.
My experiment will be a comparison and measured in a rate of growth in inches per day comparing two clones in two different tents with diff. humidities. One will be at around 50-60% and I'll turn the other tent up to around 85%.
That therm. thing was interesting too. Your right you gotta look at mean temps and how you have your fans blowing. I sometimes just get too crazy with my setup, because it always has to work out if you know what I mean
K
*Kushty*
nft eh looks good you sure put the psychoberry to the test
great skills
great skills
