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Amendment 64 Question for Co people

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OrganicOzarks

Has anyone up there talked about (or actually done) getting people 21 or older to "legally" sign over their plant count to another person? With the correct legal document from your attorney, plus getting it notarized, I would think it would not be to hard to do. The first guy going to court would be the martyr, but after that it would open the door for the rest. I can't see how it would not win in court.
 
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JimmyRow

I've seen some things popping up on cl, where you lease sqftage to put your count. Elec included, and wired for a fair amount of juice.
 

monsoon

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I'm trying to fgure out how you would offer such a grow space to others wthout recieviing any compensation for rent/electricity/time/etc. Then I'm tying to figure out why anyone would see a benefit in combining gardens in this environment. Seems like it would be very tough to comply wiith all of the bullshit requirements regarding transport, security/etc. Qite a few folks talked about "collectives" under the med law but again, there never seemed to be a clear advantage or there'd be a whole bunch of them around right now. (IMO)

will be interesting to see if folks try to go this route or not and what troubles they encounter if they do.
 
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OrganicOzarks

Hopefully after a year they will kill the vertical integration, and then the "home" grower(I use this term very loosely) will be able to sell their wares to the stores. So if, or when that comes the more plants the better. It would be a way to circumvent the entire licensing process they have for large growers. It would be a "cheap" way to grow without the Government all up in your shit. A way for the average Joe to be able to prodcue Boutique buds that the big growers won't be able to do. Craft beer ring a bell? Although I am sure that if this idea blossomed into something bigger then they would come in, and try to tear it apart.
 

monsoon

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I saw mention last night that VI is favored and could have at least a 2 year lifespan. I personally don't think they will ever let the "home" grower back into the game. If they were to open it up to smaller ops they will still have to go through a licensing/inspection/code process to be allowed to play because the end product is being offered to the public for consumption. I understand your analogy, but even "craft" beers are regulated by State standards/laws. Folks definitely aren't brewing it at home and selling it to the stores without licensing/etc. to circumvent the Gov't. It's all more controlled than that, for better or worse. Weed is gonna be the same way, if that is, the Federal Gov't allows ANY of this to fly. (highly doubtful)
 

Hydro-Soil

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OO, you're on my ignore list. Only reading this because it pertains to an important subject.


Article in the Sunday Denver Post talks about the word "assisting", in the personal use section, being the important legal point here.

A local attorney is quoted as saying that local collectives would be fine, I.E. people who want to grow their six plants at home, bonding together to jointly lease and tend a warehouse. Says doing it with hundreds of people together would carry risk of felony prosecution?

Anyway, that's one attorney's take on it. The room to set precedent is certainly there. Whatever happens first may take a while to overturn?


Tom Gorman (Director of Rocky Mountain Area, fed program on trafficking) asks
"Are they so thrilled with marijuana and think it's such a great thing that it's their responsibility to offer it as cheap as possible? Why would you go through all the trouble for no profit at all?"

In short, dude...

YES. and

As long as there are ignorant pricks like yourself that refuse to do independent research/critical-thinking and continue to enforce ANY sort of prohibition... People like myself will be doing what they can to provide other people with what they need. As cheaply and with as high a quality as I can possibly manage.

Cannabis should be FREE for anyone to grow and sell like any other plant. Until then, the system that prohibits this is causing EVERYONE daily harm. Period.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 

monsoon

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A local attorney is quoted as saying that local collectives would be fine, I.E. people who want to grow their six plants at home, bonding together to jointly lease and tend a warehouse. Says doing it with hundreds of people together would carry risk of felony prosecution?

Anyway, that's one attorney's take on it. The room to set precedent is certainly there. Whatever happens first may take a while to overturn?

The legislature sees it differently.... no collectives

And all of you are TOO HIGH to drive...


Among the amendments the Senate adopted before breaking for lunch were a ban on incorporated marijuana collectives, a ban on mobile marijuana stores and a prohibition on city governments becoming pot retailers.

Read more: Colorado legislature gives final OK to marijuana driving limit - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...inal-ok-marijuana-driving-limit#ixzz2SeNy566X

 

k-s-p

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I saw mention last night that VI is favored and could have at least a 2 year lifespan. I personally don't think they will ever let the "home" grower back into the game. If they were to open it up to smaller ops they will still have to go through a licensing/inspection/code process to be allowed to play because the end product is being offered to the public for consumption. I understand your analogy, but even "craft" beers are regulated by State standards/laws. Folks definitely aren't brewing it at home and selling it to the stores without licensing/etc. to circumvent the Gov't. It's all more controlled than that, for better or worse. Weed is gonna be the same way, if that is, the Federal Gov't allows ANY of this to fly. (highly doubtful)

If they do away with VI and allow smaller growers to sell to middlemen or retailers, wouldn't the responsibility for the condition of the product fall on the retailer? I'm just thinking the retailer would have to take steps, e.g. potency\mold\pesticide\herbicide tests to satisfy any quality and safety standards.

I can see the craft beer analogy at the end point, small retailer point of sale. For the small(er) grower I could see a process like tobacco crop sales used to be. My grandfather took his to auction and it was bought by tobacco brokers for whatever price they agreed on after it was inspected.

It would be great if VI disappeared in 2014 and smaller growers could find a place in the market.
 
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