Hygrozyme - How to use it?
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toastynoodles
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When i used it i add every other reservoir change.
I run CoCo and swear by it.....I run it every time i feed, or every other watering.
Seen a noticeable jump in vigor using it in coco around 10mL/Gal. I did some side by sides and the plants given hygrozyme from rooted cut on outpaced the others by quite a bit.
Unfortunately I've had similar problems as jm420 when using it in a recirculating system at full strength. I kept insisting to myself that it wasn't the hygrozyme since it was a completely sterile enzyme that performed so well for me in coco, but after eliminating it after a res change I was able to rid my system from "funk" and return to a clean healthy root system.
If you're going to use it in hydro ender go weak. Many using it in hydro so it is not an issue for everyone, but I experienced an odd sediment running it in a circulating bubble setup. No hygrozyme no sediment.. as soon as I added it the sediment returned every time.
Unfortunately I've had similar problems as jm420 when using it in a recirculating system at full strength. I kept insisting to myself that it wasn't the hygrozyme since it was a completely sterile enzyme that performed so well for me in coco, but after eliminating it after a res change I was able to rid my system from "funk" and return to a clean healthy root system.
If you're going to use it in hydro ender go weak. Many using it in hydro so it is not an issue for everyone, but I experienced an odd sediment running it in a circulating bubble setup. No hygrozyme no sediment.. as soon as I added it the sediment returned every time.
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There is a very informative thread on Hygrozyme in the H2o2 discussion. The general consensus would seem to be:
Many members have stated that it 'causes' root rot in hydro systems but in reality they already had root rot in the system. Either from an environmental/design weakness or it returned from a previous infection via a build-up of contaminated bio film on plastic surfaces - res, pipes, drippers etc etc. The enzymes in Hygrozyme will feed ANY bacteria, including ALL the bad ones. So if you have one tiny little patch of botritis lurking in a 90 degree bend or some little corner, the Hygrozyme will enable it to explode & re-colonise.
If you have your environment totally dialled in & are running an 'active' res (beneficial bacteria) then Hugrozyme has proved useful but if you're running a 'dead' res then there's not much benefit.
However, I have found that nearly everyone has missed the whole point of Hygrozyme - read the label!
Hygrozyme is a 'gold standard' CLEANER. Its the ONLY cleaner that will TOTALLY remove any residual bacteria but more importantly, its the only safe/organic cleaner that effectively removes bio film from your plastic surfaces. I use it exactly for that purpose alone. I was one of the unlucky growers who learned the hard way about root rot so now I clean everything with Hygro & run the system for a couple of hours with a strong solution prior to a new planting.
Hope this rather long winded reply was of some interest.
Stay safe
Hygrozyme
There is a very informative thread on Hygrozyme in the H2o2 discussion. The general consensus would seem to be:
Many members have stated that it 'causes' root rot in hydro systems but in reality they already had root rot in the system. Either from an environmental/design weakness or it returned from a previous infection via a build-up of contaminated bio film on plastic surfaces - res, pipes, drippers etc etc. The enzymes in Hygrozyme will feed ANY bacteria, including ALL the bad ones. So if you have one tiny little patch of botritis lurking in a 90 degree bend or some little corner, the Hygrozyme will enable it to explode & re-colonise.
If you have your environment totally dialled in & are running an 'active' res (beneficial bacteria) then Hugrozyme has proved useful but if you're running a 'dead' res then there's not much benefit.
However, I have found that nearly everyone has missed the whole point of Hygrozyme - read the label!
Hygrozyme is a 'gold standard' CLEANER. Its the ONLY cleaner that will TOTALLY remove any residual bacteria but more importantly, its the only safe/organic cleaner that effectively removes bio film from your plastic surfaces. I use it exactly for that purpose alone. I was one of the unlucky growers who learned the hard way about root rot so now I clean everything with Hygro & run the system for a couple of hours with a strong solution prior to a new planting.
Hope this rather long winded reply was of some interest.
Stay safe
Hygrozyme causes root rot no doubt about it in dwc. In dwc use ewc tea. Heinzenberg tea is what I use. Google it
Technically maybe you could use it in dwc if it was 100% sterile but air from the stones keep sterile darn near impossible to maintain. Ive never seen a labratory clean room grade grow room.
Technically maybe you could use it in dwc if it was 100% sterile but air from the stones keep sterile darn near impossible to maintain. Ive never seen a labratory clean room grade grow room.
MiMedicineMan
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from my experience, I would say that maybe it makes the water more funky, but when your roots would normally be attacked by root rot or whatever else, they are still white and healthy.
Nothing else I've used gives this "buffer" zone. If my res temps are high in ezcloner, aeroflo, CCh20, I always run about 1/4 strength hygrozyme just to be safe, and it seems to work. Now I don't know how DM Zone works with hygrozyme as I know zone doesn't like h202. Thats why I keep it at .25 strength...
PIP - U do perpetual in the DWC? RDWC? or what? 1 system or more than one? Right now I have 1 UC 18 set up, I'm setting up another UC 12 and a smaller one for veg with 20 sites
Nothing else I've used gives this "buffer" zone. If my res temps are high in ezcloner, aeroflo, CCh20, I always run about 1/4 strength hygrozyme just to be safe, and it seems to work. Now I don't know how DM Zone works with hygrozyme as I know zone doesn't like h202. Thats why I keep it at .25 strength...
PIP - U do perpetual in the DWC? RDWC? or what? 1 system or more than one? Right now I have 1 UC 18 set up, I'm setting up another UC 12 and a smaller one for veg with 20 sites
The 3 main functions of Hygrozyme is to break down organic material to a form that is readily usable for the plant The other thing is it stimulates root growth. Your roots will absolutely take off...thus your plants will take off, 3rd is to help rid plant waste
i don;t understand so many hydro guys having issues of root rot but would bet its not from the hygrozyme
Bottom line its expensive and worth it in all stages of growth
Hygrozyme acts as a facilitator-cleaner prior to or in conjunction with the sterilization of containerized media, such as plastic mesh, soil, rock wool, coco fibre or agricultural related equipment, including, but not limited to, greenhouse tools, hydroponic systems, air stones, pipes, pumps, buckets, drip feed systems, and reservoir tanks.
Hygrozyme is the only known natural cleaner in the market that is sterile (bacteria free) and inert. Hygrozyme is produced in accordance with ISO standards (International Standards Organization) and is considered to be of medical grade quality.The technology was identified and originally developed for hospitals. It is now considered to be the world "Gold Standard" of passive cleaning in virtually all hospitals for the purpose of cleaning surgical operating equipment. It has been proven that chemicals alone will not remove dead organic fixatives prior to sterilization.
Hygrozyme is the only known natural cleaner that can be used in conjunction with other standard cleaning chemicals (i.e. hydrogen peroxide). It can be used alone, where the use of chemicals is prohibited or not welcome. Hygrozyme provides the ideal natural cleaning solution.
i don;t understand so many hydro guys having issues of root rot but would bet its not from the hygrozyme
Bottom line its expensive and worth it in all stages of growth
Hygrozyme acts as a facilitator-cleaner prior to or in conjunction with the sterilization of containerized media, such as plastic mesh, soil, rock wool, coco fibre or agricultural related equipment, including, but not limited to, greenhouse tools, hydroponic systems, air stones, pipes, pumps, buckets, drip feed systems, and reservoir tanks.
Hygrozyme is the only known natural cleaner in the market that is sterile (bacteria free) and inert. Hygrozyme is produced in accordance with ISO standards (International Standards Organization) and is considered to be of medical grade quality.The technology was identified and originally developed for hospitals. It is now considered to be the world "Gold Standard" of passive cleaning in virtually all hospitals for the purpose of cleaning surgical operating equipment. It has been proven that chemicals alone will not remove dead organic fixatives prior to sterilization.
Hygrozyme is the only known natural cleaner that can be used in conjunction with other standard cleaning chemicals (i.e. hydrogen peroxide). It can be used alone, where the use of chemicals is prohibited or not welcome. Hygrozyme provides the ideal natural cleaning solution.
I was asked to drop in apparently to dispel some psuedoscience....
Hygrozyme > zyme= enzyme. Enzymes are non-living catalysts for chemical reactions, which means they speed things up. In this instance, we're talking about metabolic reactions of bacteria and fungi in the rhizosphere. Enzymes have nothing to do with your roots, as they aren't alive and have no metabolism.
What's in your rhizosphere depends on the oxygen content of your solution. If the solution is well oxygenated, the anaerobes that cause root rot won't be able to survive. They lack the oxidase enzyme that allows aerobic bacteria to detoxify oxidation reactions.
Applying beneficial microbes helps, as the bennies consume all resources available and don't allow the bad microbes to take hold.
Its science.
Hygrozyme > zyme= enzyme. Enzymes are non-living catalysts for chemical reactions, which means they speed things up. In this instance, we're talking about metabolic reactions of bacteria and fungi in the rhizosphere. Enzymes have nothing to do with your roots, as they aren't alive and have no metabolism.
What's in your rhizosphere depends on the oxygen content of your solution. If the solution is well oxygenated, the anaerobes that cause root rot won't be able to survive. They lack the oxidase enzyme that allows aerobic bacteria to detoxify oxidation reactions.
Applying beneficial microbes helps, as the bennies consume all resources available and don't allow the bad microbes to take hold.
Its science.
MiMedicineMan
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Interesting. In my UC which I just set up 2 weeks ago, the only bacteria I see in the system anywhere, including the filters, is on the airlines heading down to the stones. Under the water, bacteria seems to congregate on the hoses and only there. Maybe I'm using the wrong hoses? I using some clear hydrofarm shit that said food grade or something about 14$ per roll
I don't understand how you are seeing the bacteria, as they're microscopic. Bacterial colonies can be visualized, and their color and shape can help identify them... But the biofilm that forms is a symbiosis of various microbes.
I've never ran a pure hydro system, I'm only speaking from having taken microbiology and other science classes... I can't even begin to guess at what it is you see.
Bacteria are everywhere. There is no such thing as a sterile system. When the bleach/h2o2/ammonia/whatever is gone the microbes recolonize. The best thing to do is culture beneficial microbes so you know what you have in your rhizosphere.
MiMedicineMan
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I use zone which is a chlorine based root zone treatment. It pretty much kills everything.
Maybe what I'm seeing is the build up of dead colonies of stuff? its strange, the stuff only grows where the air line is in the bubbles in each bucket. It doesn't grow in the epicenter bucket which doesn't have air line...
Maybe what I'm seeing is the build up of dead colonies of stuff? its strange, the stuff only grows where the air line is in the bubbles in each bucket. It doesn't grow in the epicenter bucket which doesn't have air line...
Same here...
I'd put it on my "Items for Trade" list. I don't like doing medium based grows that do well with it.
Stay Safe!
Ok I'm not a pure hydro grower, so please excuse me if I'm mistaken... But an undercurrent system is based on recirculating the solution fast around the system, in an undercurrent... turning the solution over so fast keeps it well oxygenated, which is what makes the system so popular b/c of the explosive growth. So why do you have airlines adding heat in your undercurrent system? Do you not trust the system to oxygenate the solution? A waterfall effect in the epicenter bucket would add lots of air without the added heat of a pump.
What you're seeing is probably a biofilm growing on the tubes, which are warmer than the surrounding solution.... And the plastic probably gives the microbes something to grow on. Idk, just an educated guess.
crisscross
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Sounds legit but who really knows? MMM, I have a uc system I built a few months ago---explosive growth, waterfall effect all that stuff but when I added air stones and a chiller my life changed. I ran dwc and that was great but with the uc I don't have to worry about different containers with all the headache of constantly checking water etc etc. not to mention having to do it when the lights are on...I'm a working man! Get a chiller and who cares about that 'slime' on the tubes? Just replace the hoses every grow. No bigs.
As for hygrozome, I have a gallon of it and I'm willing to give away. Funny thing, a person gave me the bottle saying that he didn't have a need or want for it. I used it and I had slime immediately after all over my roots. I don't know for sure what was the culprit but I would have to say having hygrozome and high temps in the res are not a good idea. I lost all of my plants that crop. Sidenote: I have sm 90, h2o2 dmz etc etc and I no longer see a need for any of that crap because I have 61*F water temps. FTW.
MiMedicineMan
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hmm, interesting.
Bobblehead, the system im speaking of is a Current culture brand name system, there are little stones in each pot and a big one in the controller pot. Its totally because of the heat because my air pump is outside the room They tell you if you have co2 enrichment to put the air pump outside. I have a half hp chiller but it struggles to keep it under 79 really. I have a bigggger commercial one I'm gonna hook up to help.
Back to the point, I'm somebody who is always pushing the limits of what my room/system/plant can handle and I just feel if you use a bit of hygrozyme and don't change anything else that the plants with the -zyme will react better to adverse conditions ie when you cant keep your water under 80.
Maybe its little more than piece of mind, but i would never run a water system without at least a little bit of it, even when I hit 61F...
Bobblehead, the system im speaking of is a Current culture brand name system, there are little stones in each pot and a big one in the controller pot. Its totally because of the heat because my air pump is outside the room They tell you if you have co2 enrichment to put the air pump outside. I have a half hp chiller but it struggles to keep it under 79 really. I have a bigggger commercial one I'm gonna hook up to help.
Back to the point, I'm somebody who is always pushing the limits of what my room/system/plant can handle and I just feel if you use a bit of hygrozyme and don't change anything else that the plants with the -zyme will react better to adverse conditions ie when you cant keep your water under 80.
Maybe its little more than piece of mind, but i would never run a water system without at least a little bit of it, even when I hit 61F...
maynard444
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I have an undercurrent system and I do not run hygrozyme. I did use it and found I was just wasting money as it did nothing to clarify my resevoirs. I ended up getting a container of pond clarifier from a local pond store. I put a tsp in there when I flush to help break dead plant material down and it also cleans the crap out of the water. I flush every two weeks in flower for 3-5 days It cost $18 and it treats something like 80,000 gallons, so I'll have it for a while.
