General Recyling questions

[trichrider]

using to escape the tortuous tenacles of pharmacueticals, quack doctors pushing extraordinary procedures, criminal corporations, corrupt politicians, poisons in food, vaccines, the FED, the rich, the fat and lazy wallmart wanderers, the advertising, the petrol dollar, the inlaws, the CRAZY lady next door who counsels children, the church, the listless irrelevants chatting in the isle, the taxes, the monotonous traffic noise, the traffic, lying media, the democrats and republicans who are letting this happen, and the whiners is not exactly introversion....is it?

i mean...really?

oh man. i need to go get a buzz on.

http://safeshare.tv/w/UAGOcLSuLX

 

[Greenheart]

"you must spread rep b4 giving it to trich again dammit"

If it didn't describe me so well I would be worried about you!

I dream of getting my homestead going someday. It's not paranoia if it's real right?

Honestly I am secure enough in myself to not worry about friends or other's perceptions of me. I learned early on when the other kids sat on my chest beat me and spit in my mouth to cover my screams that I didn't need them or really care what they thought of me. I have my few and they are worth more than the masses. I am here for education, smiles, and laughter. With the community here at IC I get that need filled often. It may not be as tangible as some would have it but it is a large social unit with which I share a few common values. It is also one of the better virtual communities of which I am a member. Cliks and dicks like anywhere in life but by and large a good group of fellow humanity is passing the pipe in these circles.

 

[Coba]

Wow,

Looks like I touched a nerve. I've been around boards long enough to see what they cost.

I've met a few people from the boards ... I wouldn't say we were friends, barely aquaintances, as compared to my real friends . A real friend, a real community is not convenient. It's a commitment. The idea of this being comparable to a real community is a little sad. It's community light.

The people I've met from the boards have been split down the middle. Half are normal , well adjusted people who can hold a job. They smoke to enjoy going out and enjoying what life has to offer.

The other half, introverts who don't socialize in the real world, so this is the place they can be a "somebody". They smoke not to enjoy life, but to check out of life and turn away from it. They are socially backward in real life so online is the only place they can be a "somebody".
This matters to them. It's warped.

It's a trap.

If you are blessed with real friends, real family , where you are there for each other thick and thin, then you have a keen awareness of the time being on line takes away from them and the loss in the quality time spent with real community, real friends.

Now as for my buddy... he's the most successful guy I know in the MJ world, forum owner, organic fert supplier, warehouse grower, genetic preservationist. Everything he has told me has worked. All the genetics I've gotten have been better than any of my seed grows and I've grown a lot of seeds.

We talked at length ( a real talk, with real voices between real friends) about the silliness of forums and that you have to wade through a lot of shit, to get to the meat and potatoes.

At face value, what doesn't one have in real life if your invented online persona is important enough to waste thousands of hours you could be spending enjoying the world?

And then when the site goes down, like Overgrow, Dr Chronics site, Cannabis World, Planet Ganja... I could go on. When it goes down and your handle and replies are all on some hard drive somewhere, where is the community?

No where. You are alone, in front of a computer, having imaginary conversations with people who have no relevance in your life. That's the truth. When you meet the people in real life that you interacted with you realize that you had no idea who that person was and you were living in your own head. It's sobering. One of the most respected online guys I met was a clueless, socially inept wierdo who had trouble ordering food at a restaurant. Yet online , he was a hero.

I've met breeders, admins , many people behind the scenes and they all share this perspective, which is why they profit off of it.

Now, I'm enjoying some Whitefire #3 later that was grown wonderfully in recycled organic soil with the help of a real friend who set me straight.

I'm not trying to hurt anyone, I hope you don't make the same mistakes I did. I used to believe in this shit, I was even a mod. Now, I make sure to put that energy into actually doing things instead of just imagining them. This is the pot calling the kettle black indeed. I was the biggest fool because this used to matter to me.

all of my friends are really impressed...

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

Red Swan- If that's the way you feel about the forums...why are you here w/ us degenerates?

If recycling your soil is a simple as adding back the same amendments each run....why are you here?

 

[xmobotx]

that rev book sucks major ass; talk about reading through a bunch of bullshit to get to the "gems" oh wait/ no real gems either

fuck that

 

[Microbeman]

I bought the actual book. It does wander around a bit ( it is written by a stoner), but it's easy to read and breaks everything down very simply. Recycling my soil is a simple as adding back the same things I added the first time with a few simple additives.
Very uncomplicated. He's got some interesting soil mixes in there, but I'll stick with the mix I started with because so far, it's outstanding and all the ingredients are available at my local nursery.

Simple, simple, simple. The biggest deal was mixing the soil which doesn't take long . Let them sit for a few weeks and you are gold.

For small scale growers like me it's easy. It didn't take long to mix 96 gallons of soil.

Good luck. Another good one is Organic Gardening by Geoff Hamilton. I got it as a gift and it's got everything you need to know for indoor and outdoor gardening of anything. Practical and Common sense. That's all you need. http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Gardening-Geoff-Hamilton/dp/0756671795

People forget about books and how wonderful they are. Too much time on the net is unhealthy, take it from me.

It is actually much more simple than that. Just mix your soil once and allow it to come to life, don't ever mix it up again (or as little as necessary), tearing its guts to pieces and only feed it where nature set it up to be fed > at the surface.

I've not read the book but understand it is based upon the supposed natural phenomena that soil in the top two feet or so is configured in stripes/layers (spikes) of nutrients. You could say something similar of the very top layer, not yet assimilated but I have rarely, if ever, seen soil so arranged in nature.

This is not to be confused with the microbial hierarchy which does indeed align itself at certain depths in the media.

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

ROLS sticky ftw!!!

The first 7-12 pages mandatory. The other 500 for expanding the brain while you toke that sweet organic smoke. Still trying to figuire out how much of what to re-ammend with each cycle myself. I gather the food items like neem, crab, alfalfa, kelp, and compost are evey cycle the mineral side stays around longer so I tread lightly each round into that dark night. In the worse case I source some more base material and give things time to do the microbial shuffle before doing the hokey pokey and turning itself about. Maybe I will find the answer in the sticky but just have not gotten that far.

After reading the first post I do not have to worry about making concrete apparently.

^^^^^^^^^^
This post is the kinda shit we should be talking about when it comes to recycling soil. I apologize for feeding the troll.

For me everything is going well adding back small amounts of amendments. (Last run all I added back was 1tbs per gal of Biotone starter plus simply because it was laying around).

When is it time to add back the mineral mix?

I think I've asked Neo or BJW (maybe not) in the past. I believe about a year and a half or so was the answer. My soil is lacking bentonite and I skimped on GRD and basalt. So I'm going to add these to my soil (3rd round) at the levels they should've been at the whole time.

 

[Durdy]

I've got two 5 gallons buckets I did a lazy mans re-ammend on.

Sprinkled a bit of neem, kelp, fish bone meal, and fish meal on top.

Then covered with EWC.

Let it sit for about a week, watering with whatever teas were being made.

Then Removed the roots ball and transplanted in a clone.

So far their rocking! I'll snap some pics in the next few days.

 

[RanchoDeluxe]

Sounds like a good no-till plan ya got there Durdy!

 

[ghostmade]

using to escape the tortuous tenacles of pharmacueticals, quack doctors pushing extraordinary procedures, criminal corporations, corrupt politicians, poisons in food, vaccines, the FED, the rich, the fat and lazy wallmart wanderers, the advertising, the petrol dollar, the inlaws, the CRAZY lady next door who counsels children, the church, the listless irrelevants chatting in the isle, the taxes, the monotonous traffic noise, the traffic, lying media, the democrats and republicans who are letting this happen, and the whiners is not exactly introversion....is it?

i mean...really?

oh man. i need to go get a buzz on.

http://safeshare.tv/w/UAGOcLSuLX

Ima use this to describe the world people.well the problems in it.might wanna add the lack of respect of themselfs and others, the complete neglect of the planet and its ecosystems heath all in the name of a dollar, the lack of enthusiasm for life itself. Sum time I feel like .ever heard that song s.o.s. by the police? I feel like that in the real world, but on here its like beach, and yalls message in the bottle is the post u make with ur handle.lol I must be to high but yall feel me right? I probably shoulda post this in the deep stoner thoughts thread.red swan do got a point though about waisting time on here, ive sacrificed so much time that I could've been spent wit people

 

[ghostmade]

That ive lost in this life, or got stuck in the research rut.but it also gave me priceless information about science and life matters.its all about making those sacrifices count.kaking somthing out of them.ive lost alot of time in the real world focusing of this shit (over 6 year) but bet ur bottom dollar ima put the p.h.d.ive earned off I c mag to change the world ar9und me bet on it.fuck that waisting a gift and wuts earned is a mortal sin, just do it.sorry for the rant and double post stay up l9ng l8ve icmag