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Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread
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OaxacanXPunto Rojo
1month showing first trichs with a few flowers
1month showing first trichs with a few flowers
Here's a whole plants worth. they are starting to smell like cloves and Kiwi shoe polish in a can.
Not surprised to see these kind of reports. Cannabis that's evolved in the high altitudes of Earth's "equatorial bulge" ought to be the most potent, considering its closest to the sun. The highlands of Peru, Malaysia and Indonesia should suffice. I eagerly look forward to seeing what you find Bushweed
R
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This is the main cola of a Cannabiogen Caribe harvested this evening. The effect from test samples is warm and sativa leaning, but the bud structure is where she really shines. Very high calyx/leaf ratio and very dense buds. I have crossed this particular plant with ACE Malawi and DNA Chocolope, and hope to cross those crosses for F3 progeny with a 'devastating' sativa effect that comes from the Malawi genetics.
Having been away some time, a few of my bush plants have been sorely neglected, and the longer I go without seeing them, the more anxiety I experience thinking what may have befallen them....which is why I was happily surprised to find my later flowering Nimbin Purple Thai ripe for the picking....the smell is rootbeer and mint, the high is clear and euphoric...the purple phenotypes are often more trippy - just the way I like it....
@Randy, I love the look of your Oaxacan x Punto Rojo amigo...
@Randy, I love the look of your Oaxacan x Punto Rojo amigo...
What's the aroma??? Any incense 
Keep on growing
Keep on growing
What's the aroma??? Any incense
Keep on growing
Exactly what I wanted to know
1luvbigherb
should I start feeding this 0ne. she dose have flowers growing on her now. or should I keep vegetating her till fall.
VanVulpen,
Whatever that is that you posted, it is a beautiful sativa. I wish I had something so ultimate looking.
The queen of my collection at the moment, SAGE, is not pure sativa, and I hope I'm forgiven for posting it here. It is what I have going at the moment, and while I only consider it moderate potency, it does have a good quality effect. It gives me a good mood, and it is just a bit trippy. It does not make this old man tired, which I won't tolerate anymore. I believe it is a rare good hybrid with an indica that preserves the quality sativa effect and the positive indica physical attributes which makes it easier to grow inside.
I tried a Purple Haze x Thai plant that turned out to be male, so I'm going to test the male using this SAGE that I have had for the last two years. Pollination is occurring as I write.
The buds posted below have some seeds in them from a Golden Tiger male that I want to test. This particular male has a very peppery smell that I associate with the Thai Stick of my youth. I can only dream that I will get a good Thai like plant again somewhere.
Here are some pics of my SAGE:
Leaf
Buds
Closeup
The aroma is fantastic on this. It is woody, honey, and spice while fresh, but is a bit turpentine like, with a vague hint of menthol after a long cure.
It has nicely colored buds that can be anywhere from a purplish red (violet) to a very dark purple (almost black) depending on conditions.
I'm searching for something significantly more potent, but this plant is the bar that anything new will have to hurdle.
Cheers,
ThaiBliss
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mahatmaganja27
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northern lights/ shiva/ afghani x pahari farmhouse
northern lights/ shiva/ afghani x pahari farmhouse
northern lights/ shiva/ afghani x pahari farmhouse
mahatmaganja27
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These plants are 50% northern lighs / shiva / afghani x 50 %pahari farmhouse male. Very sativa like. Seeds planted 1/1/13 outdoors at 30 degrees north latitude. We had a warm winter. The tallest is a 6 foot christmas tree. Very foxtail thin leaf plants. Grapefruit , charas smell and taste.these plants wont finish budding before revegging so i made a shitload of seeds using a purple pheno northern lights/ shiva x og kush male. Should get thousands of seeds. The buds get fucking huge in the fall
mahatmaganja27
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pakistan chitral kush ( purple grape pheno ) x pahari farmhoue
pakistan chitral kush ( purple grape pheno ) x pahari farmhoue
Ace pakistan chitral kush meets the real seed compannys Pahari farmhouse male. Very sativa purple buds plants are 4 feet planted outdoor 1/1/13 from seed. 2 females all seeded with a purple pheno Northern lights / Shiva X OG Kush. When properly flowered in the fall these plants get huge long thinleafed trichrome coated sativa buds .very large yeild
pakistan chitral kush ( purple grape pheno ) x pahari farmhoue
Ace pakistan chitral kush meets the real seed compannys Pahari farmhouse male. Very sativa purple buds plants are 4 feet planted outdoor 1/1/13 from seed. 2 females all seeded with a purple pheno Northern lights / Shiva X OG Kush. When properly flowered in the fall these plants get huge long thinleafed trichrome coated sativa buds .very large yeild
yeh i found that 2 in indo. Great place and great folks. We only hear about the dodgy business practices, human rights abuses, rampant fundamentalism and some ugly chic from the goldy called Shappelle.
Read the Jakarta Post daily. it says it like it is.
R
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Everyone's plants are loving life! Good show everyone, good show...keep the pressure on Washington, we are about to make a breakthrough...I can tell you from living in CO, that legalization is a dream come true!
Some Sativa vs. Indica comparison. The four plants, front to back, left to right if you are in the chair, are: O.G. Kush (indica), Destroyer (100% sativa), Panama (Red Phenotype), and an unknown known as GD London.
EDIT: oops, you can often spot a gun in my photos. This is a greenhouse gardening tool, its a CO2 BB pistol that fires out a blast of Carbon Dioxide when no BB is loaded. Sometimes I just walk around a waft my plants with some fresh CO2!
And in the foreground, ACE Oldtimer's Haze at about a month of vegetative growth. I have a number of these going because they appear to be a true true pure sativa, and the colors in flowering look amazing, so I want to select for an astonishingly electric effect, purple color, and 'forest fruit' aroma.
Some Sativa vs. Indica comparison. The four plants, front to back, left to right if you are in the chair, are: O.G. Kush (indica), Destroyer (100% sativa), Panama (Red Phenotype), and an unknown known as GD London.
EDIT: oops, you can often spot a gun in my photos. This is a greenhouse gardening tool, its a CO2 BB pistol that fires out a blast of Carbon Dioxide when no BB is loaded. Sometimes I just walk around a waft my plants with some fresh CO2!
And in the foreground, ACE Oldtimer's Haze at about a month of vegetative growth. I have a number of these going because they appear to be a true true pure sativa, and the colors in flowering look amazing, so I want to select for an astonishingly electric effect, purple color, and 'forest fruit' aroma.
Check out my little Nepali clone, throwing out all these single leaves. She's been in flower for a couple of weeks now, growing like a weed in a tiny little pot.
TheFlyinHaWyn!
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nice a blast of CO2, first I have heard of that bro, nice thinking hehe and killer lookin plants everyone!!!
I just added this to the first page. Pretty interesting info posted up in an obscure thread in the old stoners forum. Thought some of you guys might be interested. It is about the rise of popularity of marijuana during prohibition.
Special thanks to member "Barnyard" here is a great article from "The Consumers Union Report on Licit and Illicit Drugs" written by Edward M. Brecher and the Editors of Consumer Reports Magazine, 1972.
"It was a change in the laws rather than a change in the drug or in human nature that stimulated the large-scale marketing of marijuana for recreational use in the United States. Not until the Eighteenth Amendment and the Volstead Act of 1920 raised the price of alcoholic beverages and made them less convenient to secure and inferior in quality did a substantial commercial trade in marijuana for recreational use spring up.
Evidence for such a trade comes from New York City, where marijuana "tea pads" were established about 1920. They resembled opium dens or speakeasies except that prices were very low; a man could get high for a quarter on marijuana smoked in the pad, or for even less if he bought the marijuana at the door and took it away to smoke. Most of the marijuana, it was said, was harvested from supplies growing wild on Staten Island or in New Jersey and other nearby states; marijuana and hashish imported from North Africa were more potent and cost more. These tea pads were tolerated by the city, much as alcohol speakeasies were tolerated. By the 1930s there were said to be 500 of them in New York City alone. 1
In 1926 the �New Orleans Item and �Morning Tribune, two newspapers under common ownership, published highly sensational expos�s of the "menace" of marijuana. 2 They reported that it was coming into New Orleans from Havana, Tampico, and Vera Cruz in large quantities, plus smaller amounts from Texas. "In one day, ten sailors were followed from the time they left their ships until they delivered their respective packages of the drug to a particular block in the Vieux Carre." 3 The sailors, it was said, bought marijuana in the Mexican ports for $10 or $12 per kilogram (2.2 pounds) and sold it in the Vieux Carr� for $35 to $50. 4 This was far more profitable than smuggling a comparable weight of whiskey.
Much of the smuggled marijuana was smoked in New Orleans; but some, it was said, was shipped?? up the Mississippi and "found its way as far north as Cleveland, Ohio, where a well-known physician said it was smoked in one of the exclusive men's clubs." 5
In New Orleans, the reporters in 1926 laid particular stress on the smoking of marijuana by children. "It was definitely ascertained that school children of 44 schools (only a few of these were high schools) were smoking 'mootas.' Verifications came in by the hundreds from harassed parents, teachers, neighborhood pastors, priests, welfare workers and club women.... The Waif's Home, at this time, was reputedly full of children, both white and colored, who had been brought in under the influence of the drug. Marijuana cigarettes could be bought almost as readily as sandwiches. Their cost was two for a quarter. The children solved the problem of cost by pooling pennies among the members of a group and then passing the cigarettes from one to another, all the puffs being carefully counted." 6
A Louisiana law passed in 1927, after the newspaper expos�, provided a maximum penalty of a $500 fine or six months' imprisonment for possession or sale of marijuana. * 7 There followed "a wholesale arrest of more than 150 persons. Approximately one hundred underworld dives, soft drink establishments, night clubs, grocery stores, and private homes were searched in the police raids. Addicts, hardened criminals, gangsters, women of the streets, sailors of all nationalities, bootleggers, boys and girls?? many flashily dressed in silks and furs, others in working clothes all were rounded up in the net which Captain Smith and his squad had set." 8
The newspaper investigation, the new law, and the heavily publicized police roundups did not, however, accomplish their purpose. On the contrary, according to Commissioner of Public Safety Frank Gomila, during the next few years New Orleans "experienced a crime wave which unquestionably was greatly aggravated by the influence of this drug habit. Payroll and bank guards were doubled, but this did not prevent some of the most spectacular hold-ups in the history of the city. Youngsters known to be 'muggle-heads' fortified themselves with the narcotic and proceeded to shoot down police, bank clerks and casual bystanders. Mr. Eugene Stanley, at that time District Attorney, declared that many of the crimes in New Orleans and the South were thus committed by criminals who relied on the drug to give them a false courage and freedom from restraint. Dr. George Roeling, Coroner, reported that of 450 prisoners investigated, 125 were confirmed users of marihuana. Mr. W. B. Graham, State Narcotic Officer, declared in 1936 that 60 percent of the crimes committed in New Orleans were by marihuana users." 9
Intensive patrolling of the New Orleans harbor tended to curb imports; but Louisianans were little inconvenienced by the smuggling curbs; they simply began to grow their own marijuana. "The first large growing crop in the city was found in 1930 and its value estimated at $35,000 to $50,000.... In 1936 about 1,200 pounds of bulk weed were seized along with considerable quantities of cigarettes. On one farm, 5-1/2 tons were destroyed and other farms yielded cultivated areas of about 10 acres....�
One resident of the city was found growing 100 large plants in his backyard." 10 The net effect of eleven years of vigorous law enforcement was summed up by Commissioner Gomila in 1938: "Cigarettes are hard to get and are selling at 30 to 40 cents apiece, which is a relatively high price and a particularly good indication of the effectiveness of the present control." 11 Marijuana smoking, in short, had become endemic in New Orleans?? and remains endemic today. What years of law enforcement had accomplished was to raise the price from two for 25 cents to 30 cents or 40 cents apiece?? and even this increase might be attributable in part to inflation.
In Colorado, the Denver News launched a similar series of sensational marijuana expos�s following the pattern set in New Orleans. 12 Mexican laborers imported to till the Colorado beet-sugar fields, it seems, had found Prohibition alcohol very expensive and so had resorted instead to marijuana, bringing their supplies north with them. A Colorado law against marijuana was duly passed in 1929."
Special thanks to member "Barnyard" here is a great article from "The Consumers Union Report on Licit and Illicit Drugs" written by Edward M. Brecher and the Editors of Consumer Reports Magazine, 1972.
"It was a change in the laws rather than a change in the drug or in human nature that stimulated the large-scale marketing of marijuana for recreational use in the United States. Not until the Eighteenth Amendment and the Volstead Act of 1920 raised the price of alcoholic beverages and made them less convenient to secure and inferior in quality did a substantial commercial trade in marijuana for recreational use spring up.
Evidence for such a trade comes from New York City, where marijuana "tea pads" were established about 1920. They resembled opium dens or speakeasies except that prices were very low; a man could get high for a quarter on marijuana smoked in the pad, or for even less if he bought the marijuana at the door and took it away to smoke. Most of the marijuana, it was said, was harvested from supplies growing wild on Staten Island or in New Jersey and other nearby states; marijuana and hashish imported from North Africa were more potent and cost more. These tea pads were tolerated by the city, much as alcohol speakeasies were tolerated. By the 1930s there were said to be 500 of them in New York City alone. 1
In 1926 the �New Orleans Item and �Morning Tribune, two newspapers under common ownership, published highly sensational expos�s of the "menace" of marijuana. 2 They reported that it was coming into New Orleans from Havana, Tampico, and Vera Cruz in large quantities, plus smaller amounts from Texas. "In one day, ten sailors were followed from the time they left their ships until they delivered their respective packages of the drug to a particular block in the Vieux Carre." 3 The sailors, it was said, bought marijuana in the Mexican ports for $10 or $12 per kilogram (2.2 pounds) and sold it in the Vieux Carr� for $35 to $50. 4 This was far more profitable than smuggling a comparable weight of whiskey.
Much of the smuggled marijuana was smoked in New Orleans; but some, it was said, was shipped?? up the Mississippi and "found its way as far north as Cleveland, Ohio, where a well-known physician said it was smoked in one of the exclusive men's clubs." 5
In New Orleans, the reporters in 1926 laid particular stress on the smoking of marijuana by children. "It was definitely ascertained that school children of 44 schools (only a few of these were high schools) were smoking 'mootas.' Verifications came in by the hundreds from harassed parents, teachers, neighborhood pastors, priests, welfare workers and club women.... The Waif's Home, at this time, was reputedly full of children, both white and colored, who had been brought in under the influence of the drug. Marijuana cigarettes could be bought almost as readily as sandwiches. Their cost was two for a quarter. The children solved the problem of cost by pooling pennies among the members of a group and then passing the cigarettes from one to another, all the puffs being carefully counted." 6
A Louisiana law passed in 1927, after the newspaper expos�, provided a maximum penalty of a $500 fine or six months' imprisonment for possession or sale of marijuana. * 7 There followed "a wholesale arrest of more than 150 persons. Approximately one hundred underworld dives, soft drink establishments, night clubs, grocery stores, and private homes were searched in the police raids. Addicts, hardened criminals, gangsters, women of the streets, sailors of all nationalities, bootleggers, boys and girls?? many flashily dressed in silks and furs, others in working clothes all were rounded up in the net which Captain Smith and his squad had set." 8
The newspaper investigation, the new law, and the heavily publicized police roundups did not, however, accomplish their purpose. On the contrary, according to Commissioner of Public Safety Frank Gomila, during the next few years New Orleans "experienced a crime wave which unquestionably was greatly aggravated by the influence of this drug habit. Payroll and bank guards were doubled, but this did not prevent some of the most spectacular hold-ups in the history of the city. Youngsters known to be 'muggle-heads' fortified themselves with the narcotic and proceeded to shoot down police, bank clerks and casual bystanders. Mr. Eugene Stanley, at that time District Attorney, declared that many of the crimes in New Orleans and the South were thus committed by criminals who relied on the drug to give them a false courage and freedom from restraint. Dr. George Roeling, Coroner, reported that of 450 prisoners investigated, 125 were confirmed users of marihuana. Mr. W. B. Graham, State Narcotic Officer, declared in 1936 that 60 percent of the crimes committed in New Orleans were by marihuana users." 9
Intensive patrolling of the New Orleans harbor tended to curb imports; but Louisianans were little inconvenienced by the smuggling curbs; they simply began to grow their own marijuana. "The first large growing crop in the city was found in 1930 and its value estimated at $35,000 to $50,000.... In 1936 about 1,200 pounds of bulk weed were seized along with considerable quantities of cigarettes. On one farm, 5-1/2 tons were destroyed and other farms yielded cultivated areas of about 10 acres....�
One resident of the city was found growing 100 large plants in his backyard." 10 The net effect of eleven years of vigorous law enforcement was summed up by Commissioner Gomila in 1938: "Cigarettes are hard to get and are selling at 30 to 40 cents apiece, which is a relatively high price and a particularly good indication of the effectiveness of the present control." 11 Marijuana smoking, in short, had become endemic in New Orleans?? and remains endemic today. What years of law enforcement had accomplished was to raise the price from two for 25 cents to 30 cents or 40 cents apiece?? and even this increase might be attributable in part to inflation.
In Colorado, the Denver News launched a similar series of sensational marijuana expos�s following the pattern set in New Orleans. 12 Mexican laborers imported to till the Colorado beet-sugar fields, it seems, had found Prohibition alcohol very expensive and so had resorted instead to marijuana, bringing their supplies north with them. A Colorado law against marijuana was duly passed in 1929."
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