Aliens, yay or nay?

[bombadil.360]

yo! legalizeDK, where r u? someone just e-mailed me this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJZ8wZrCCv0

it's supposed to come out today... will the full version be free to watch on-line? cannot find it streaming anywhere yet.

maybe my time zone is ahead from the release date time zone...

really want to see this one

peace!

 

[DrFever]

i just love stuff like that i believe there are forces out there that we just can;t comprehend life on other planets of course there is who knows maybe were just being watched and eventually contact will be made if they made it here i can tell you one thing there far more superior then human kind ... And something we should be worried about hell were a fairly new world compared to millions of older planets out there which in turn tells me another thing they could be 100 upons thousands of years more advanced in all aspects of weapons , avionics,
LETS just hope if they ever come they come in PEACE or were fcked

 

[HempKat]

i just love stuff like that i believe there are forces out there that we just can;t comprehend life on other planets of course there is who knows maybe were just being watched and eventually contact will be made if they made it here i can tell you one thing there far more superior then human kind ... And something we should be worried about hell were a fairly new world compared to millions of older planets out there which in turn tells me another thing they could be 100 upons thousands of years more advanced in all aspects of weapons , avionics,
LETS just hope if they ever come they come in PEACE or were fcked

Eh not so fast, just because a race is older doesn't necessarily mean it becomes more technologically advanced. Technology is usually driven by need, we imagine or realize a need and we create a technology to fulfill it. If one learns to live in harmony with their environment there is usually little need that isn't already covered by nature. Just look at things like uncontacted tribes in the Amazon rain forest. They live much like they have since the beginning of time. Same with American Indians, compared to where Europeans had gotten Native Americans were downright primitive. Had nobody ever came to North America I doubt the Native Americans would be all that much different then they were. In both examples this was because the people in question lived in harmony with their environment. If technological advancement were sole time dependent then things like that shouldn't happen all sub groups of a race should advance equally.

 

[igrowone]

that's a reasonable point, old age may not mean super race
on the good side, we won't have to worry about them
the ability to cross the stars looks overwhelming to us at the moment, the physics we 'know' says it ain't going to happen
at least not in a Star Trek kind of way where jaunty explorers go start surfing in their star ships
but other methods do intrigue, for example nano type vessels
tiny little things, energy to shoot one across the stars isn't much, send them in swarms
get enough intact on the other end, and a technology bootstrap is in place

 

[legalizeDK]

im still here. ive just been busy with my outdoor spot and work. im going to watch sirius tonight when the kids are in bed

 

[legalizeDK]

http://www.sirius.neverendinglight.com/

 

[BushyOldGrower]

We are a second generation star which means our heavy metals all came from old stars that nova or super nova to make our heavier elements.

We don't know if life on first generation stars exists but if so they would be very old.

What we call technology might be sticks and stones to them. We could be as insignificant as ants to them.

 

[DrFever]

that's a reasonable point, old age may not mean super race
on the good side, we won't have to worry about them
the ability to cross the stars looks overwhelming to us at the moment, the physics we 'know' says it ain't going to happen
at least not in a Star Trek kind of way where jaunty explorers go start surfing in their star ships
but other methods do intrigue, for example nano type vessels
tiny little things, energy to shoot one across the stars isn't much, send them in swarms
get enough intact on the other end, and a technology bootstrap is in place

True but if they make first contact that tells me one thing they will be far more advanced race period, cause they broke space travel equation lol evolution speaks the same words??? look how animals evolved changed etc considering the earth is fairly young @ what 4.5 or so billion years and the universe is is approx what 15 billion years leaves me wondering that yea i would bet that if contact is made they will be millions to billions of years more advanced shit just look how we advanced since early 1960's in 60 years leap forward in technology can you imagine a race billion years ahead of us
I would bet that yes we have been visited but were like probably a cave man to them and there not interest in us or were not at the level yet for them to actually want to make contact
If you really think about it we really are a vicious race power greed its all over

 

[bombadil.360]

http://www.sirius.neverendinglight.com/

hello man, did you watch it yet?

I did.

not sure what to make of it as of yet, gonna watch it again in a few days and make some conclusions.

the little alien body thing is pretty interesting, but if we take as true the whole force of cover-up, no matter how much physical evidence there is, it won't mean much in the end.

probably there won't be any disclosure on the part of those who can indeed disclose; it'll probably take simultaneous massive sightings throughout the whole world for anything to change.

what was the most interesting part is the new energy producing technologies though; and that from disclosure on aliens, now they have founded a research into new non-fossil fuel dependent energy alternatives.

also, the discussions on how main-stream science's so-called axioms are indeed a wall in the face of actual progress were really on-point, as such is the topic in top intellectual circles.

sadly, people are not interested in investing in the advancement of pure sciences, and rather just buy bitcoins or whatever other nonsense to speculate in the stocks with.

peace

 

[Cannavore]

Greer was on the Joe Rogan experience and he couldn't answer any thing important about that little fetus they are parading around. Shit is a hoax.
I love how "groundbreaking, earth changing information" gets released as documentaries these days.

 

[bombadil.360]

Cannivore, thanks for exemplifying one of my points.

people will choose to disregard whatever lab results were produced from the study of the little body and believe whatever they want.

nothing short of a massive world-wide sighting will change anything.

 

[Cannavore]

"I can say with absolute certainty that it is not a monkey. It is human -- closer to human than chimpanzees. It lived to the age of six to eight. Obviously, it was breathing, it was eating, it was metabolizing. It calls into question how big the thing might have been when it was born,"said Garry Nolan, director of stem cell biology at Stanford University's School of Medicine in California.

"The sequence that we got from the mitochondria [energy factories of cells] tells us with extremely high confidence that the mother was an indigenous Indian from the Chilean area. The other thing that immediately fell out of the analysis is that it's male. It probably died in the last century, if I were to make a guess."



This "alien" has changed hands for over a decade (in one occasion for $65 lol) usually in the hands of UFO enthusiasts and directors of these disclosure organizations so they can spew their misinformation with physical proof. There's really nothing new or extraterrestrial about it as that documentary would like you to believe.

 

[igrowone]

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If you really think about it we really are a vicious race power greed its all over [/FONT]

maybe, it's hard to compare when we have one example, and that is us
we could be the best, could also be the worst
as a guess, i'd put us in somewhere in the middle
i'd also say we are growing as a species, a 1000 years ago cruel executions were a matter of routine, less so today, at least in the more developed countries

 

[legalizeDK]

Hi guys.

I was kind af dissapointed, thought it had a lot more on the little whatever it is. don´t like the the way the "litlle alien" part is like a teaser throughout the film, the other parts of the movie i dodn´t really see anything i cant find on youtube allready

but liked it anyway.
about the little guy dontknow what to think, it could be alien but the results dontreally make sense really

 

[Suspect]

Yeah the whole Sirius movie felt like a long trailer for something else.

 

[bombadil.360]

"I can say with absolute certainty that it is not a monkey. It is human -- closer to human than chimpanzees. It lived to the age of six to eight. Obviously, it was breathing, it was eating, it was metabolizing. It calls into question how big the thing might have been when it was born,"said Garry Nolan, director of stem cell biology at Stanford University's School of Medicine in California.

"The sequence that we got from the mitochondria [energy factories of cells] tells us with extremely high confidence that the mother was an indigenous Indian from the Chilean area. The other thing that immediately fell out of the analysis is that it's male. It probably died in the last century, if I were to make a guess."



This "alien" has changed hands for over a decade (in one occasion for $65 lol) usually in the hands of UFO enthusiasts and directors of these disclosure organizations so they can spew their misinformation with physical proof. There's really nothing new or extraterrestrial about it as that documentary would like you to believe.

all that you have quoted comes directly from the movie itself; all the dna research was paid for them, to find whatever results.

in the movie, you see Garry Nolan explicitly stating that one of his interests in analyzing the little body was to prove it was not alien nor supernatural in any way shape or form.

at no time during the movie do they make the claim that the little body is an alien; they ask: is it an alien? and hence the whole dna research.

however, according to Nolan himself, none of the anomalies and/or mutations that are responsible for such little body are explainable through any of the known mutations. he also states that the little body is so riddled with mysteries that if there is any further research done to it, that he himself is the first in line interested to study it.

so all this means two things: you either did not understand what was being said as a whole in the movie, or you just parroted some "debunker" debunking a straw-man.

 

[bombadil.360]

Hi guys.

I was kind af dissapointed, thought it had a lot more on the little whatever it is. don´t like the the way the "litlle alien" part is like a teaser throughout the film, the other parts of the movie i dodn´t really see anything i cant find on youtube allready

but liked it anyway.
about the little guy dontknow what to think, it could be alien but the results dontreally make sense really

I hear what you're saying man.

however, I liked how they tied everything together; from the whole cover-up, all the way to actually having a pragmatic goal such as new energy sources.

I liked the whole little alien body thing, mainly because they were pretty honest about the findings.

I think what actually made the movie not so good was because of poor script and amateurish editing.

if they had presented the same info but in a more orderly way, the whole 'tease' feeling the random scenes of the little body research appearing at odd parts would not be there, and we could have appreciated better the whole argument they are making.

it seems they did not have anyone supervising these production details, and it felt a lot of the process was rushed.

I'm gonna watch it again soon to see if I can make it to the end without being annoyed by the lack of order

peace!

 

[budpreacher]

Aliens created us that is for definite, but none in the universe just other life forms. No aliens, no chance. Maybe other life forms

 

[legalizeDK]

Aliens created us that is for definite, but none in the universe just other life forms. No aliens, no chance. Maybe other life forms

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...nsformation_n_3142552.html?utm_hp_ref=science

The genetic lineage of Europe mysteriously transformed about 4,500 years ago, new research suggests.
The findings, detailed today (April 23) in the journal Nature Communications, were drawn from several skeletons unearthed in central Europe that were up to 7,500 years old.
"What is intriguing is that the genetic markers of this first pan-European culture, which was clearly very successful, were then suddenly replaced around 4,500 years ago, and we don't know why," said study co-author Alan Cooper, of the University of Adelaide Australian Center for Ancient DNA, in a statement. "Something major happened, and the hunt is now on to find out what that was."

and so on.....

 

[MJBadger]

nothing short of a massive world-wide sighting will change anything.
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The same applies to God , that`s why i think there may be more chance of alien life existing that a massive fairy tale billions believe in .