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from http://cannabisdigest.ca/game-changer/

Game Changer

By Ryan Fink

Where people in Canada are still unjustly prohibited from using cannabis recreationally, those who have been granted a tenuous right to use it medicinally are being targeted by Health Canada in a new scheme called the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations (MMPR) that is set to replace the current Marihuana Medical Access Regulations (MMAR). In its own language, the MMPR amounts to nothing more than a simple “cost reduction” for the agency. This cost reduction stems almost entirely from a decision to scrap the parts of the MMAR that allow a person to grow their own medicine. This will result in a huge cost increase for many patients. This change is made mainly in the name of “safety and security”, where safety and security are touted through the MMPR proposal’s abstract. But the real meat is in the middle of the document, where one finds a detailed cost benefit analysis that refers to all of these safety and security risks in terms of how much they cost the government to manage.

Let’s start with the first numbers they give us. The cost of cannabis for a medical user is now $1.80 per gram if you grow your own and $5 per gram if you purchase through mail order from Health Canada, who estimate that this cost will rise across the board to about $8.80 per gram under the new regulations, resulting in a net cost increase to medicinal cannabis users of $166 million per year.

Couple what amounts to $166 million of commercial profit, with the massive savings that come with Health Canada’s decision to take away patients’ right to grow, and you pull the medical cannabis industry out of the pockets of patients and put it in the hands of capitalists like those at Ross’s Gold. In case you haven’t heard, B.C. stoner sweetheart Ross Rebagliati has sold his name to a group of investors who aim to open up a nationwide chain of medical dispensary franchises. The people at Ross’s Gold must know something we don’t, because their business model seems to completely ignore the parts of the MMPR that restrict cannabis distribution to direct mail-order, pharmacies, and hospitals. Meanwhile, Ross and friends are going ahead with opening up a bong shop in Whistler with the intention of converting it to a dispensary when the new regulations come into effect (assuming they come into effect in a radically different form than what has been proposed to date). These are the kind of entrepreneurs the government would have providing us with our medicine, where no allowance has been made for groups that have been doing this work successfully for decades, like the VCBC.

Let’s look at some figures, since they’re all we’ve been given to go on from the proposal. Here is where the money will be saved (remember, if you’re going to save one thing, save money): “Reduction in risk of residential fire”—annualized savings of $9.58 million over ten years; “Reduction in risk of home invasion”—$13.27 million per year over ten years; “Program administration costs”—$71.24 million per year over ten years; and “Reduction in deadweight loss” of $5.03 million per year over ten years. What Health Canada fails to account for here is that all of these costs are systemic and do not, in and of themselves, result from grow-ops, but rather from antiquated laws that until now have only existed because of the economic and political impositions of the U.S., which itself is presently spearheading the global legalization initiative.

These costly electrical fires, wherever they burn, could easily be prevented if more resources were available to patients in terms of equipment selection, installation, consultation, and inspection. Home invasion is a bit trickier because it will always be on the minds of people who grow as long as the value of their plant is artificially inflated by prohibition. But this risk is, like all risk, manageable, and in the face of a person’s right to life, liberty, and security of the person, this risk is negligible. This is why the police exist—to protect people from violence. People currently have the right to grow cannabis, and as such, they are entitled to the same police protection and insurance policies that people who do other risky things, like keep valuable possessions of any sort in their homes, are entitled to.

The “MMPR as cost analysis” seems to gloss over these new regulations amounting to nothing more than the privatization of a particular kind of health care. The expense is being shifted from the government to the consumer. Unlike other medicines that aren’t covered by our medical plan, cannabis has, countless times, been proven in court to be an essential medicine—something that can save lives or treat symptoms where nothing else works. This being the case, shouldn’t it be covered for people who can’t afford it the same way life-saving pharmaceutical drugs are covered? The new system is one in which a person who can’t afford to pay commercial prices for their medicine can’t afford to live.

And this is one of the main issues with the new commercial scheme: a significant proportion of medicinal cannabis users are disabled or live well below the poverty line. Multiple Sclerosis, chronic pain, chemotherapy—many of the conditions helped by cannabis are ones that make it very difficult for people to afford the constantly mounting cost of food and rent, let alone the cost of their essential medicine.

The plan is set to take full effect by Mar. 31 of next year. But it has started to take effect already. As of last Dec., Health Canada began accepting applications from potential commercial suppliers so that they could begin operating as early as this spring. Health Canada has stated that when the new producers come online, they will immediately match their own prices for dried cannabis to those of the new supply. This means that anyone who currently buys their cannabis directly from Health Canada for a modest $5 per gram will have to pay whatever the commercial producers think amounts to a fair profit before this spring is over.

Cost is the fact that currently, most cannabis producers maximize the amount of medicine they get from their crops by processing the leaf and trim into extracts and concentrates. These products are of at least as much medicinal value as the dried buds that are more familiar, and strangely preferable to health officials. The new regulations make no allowance for these byproducts. This is a terrible oversight, especially in light of Owen Smith’s recent victory in the BC Supreme Court. (See Owen’s article in this issue.) For my purposes, the fact that commercial producers will not be allowed to process the byproducts of bud production into valuable medicines like edibles, hashes, and oils, leads to an increased cost for the dried buds, and will ultimately result in a limited range of products, with unreasonably high prices.

In all, it seems like these new regulations are just a way for Health Canada to wash its hands of the burden of providing this particular kind of medicine to the people who need it. It will not bear the cost, nor will it bear the bureaucratic responsibility. What then, is the role of this organization here? They seem unable to make the one real change that will fix all the problems associated with cannabis—legalization.

Meanwhile, for organizations like the Victoria Cannabis Buyers’ Club, these new regulations spell out an uncertain future. To date, our continued existence has depended on the courts’ recognition that, for many people, clubs and dispensaries are the best option for obtaining their medicine. The MMPR fail to acknowledge this, as they fail to make any move toward legitimizing our time-tested practice. Unless this changes, our existence will depend on the success or failure of the MMPR in providing adequate access to medicine for those who need it. The more successful the new regulations are, the less people will need to continue to use our services.

In any case, it will be a travesty if these regulations are allowed to pass as they are. The idea that this plant provides medicine, and yet the people who need it won’t be able to legally grow it themselves, is absurd. It would be like prohibiting the cultivation of garden vegetables because it is safer, by the reason of some obtuse mandate, to get them from the supermarket.

I have referred extensively to the following documents in writing this article:

http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/reg4-eng.html>

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/media/nr-cp/_2012/2012-193-eng.php>
 
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from http://www.straight.com/news/369411/joy-davies-your-voice-can-support-bc-medical-cannabis-program

Joy Davies: Your voice can support a B.C. medical cannabis program

by JOY DAVIES on APR 5, 2013


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ON THE EVE of a provincial election, we, the B.C. chapter of the Canadian Medical Cannabis Partners (CMCP), are urging citizens to support a provincial medical cannabis program. Our nonprofit, volunteer organization of patients and caregivers is polling all election candidates before the May 14 vote. Our health-care system is crumbling, expensive, and simply not working. As a former city councillor, a person with health issues, a grandma, and a ticked-off citizen, I am not beyond begging our politicians to wake up!

In 2010 at UBCM and again at 2011’s FCM, our municipal leaders endorsed resolutions to “decentralize” the MMAR (Medical Marihuana Access Regulations) program to the province(s). A truly compassionate decision by municipal politicians from across our country. Still it didn’t catch the eye of much media. Regardless, a proposal was written and submitted to both the B.C. and federal ministries of health. There has been no action from either. Health Canada’s newly proposed program is worse than the existing one. Yet our premier and provincial minster of health continue to respond to us by deferring to the federal government. Wrong! B.C. opened the door to such a compassionate program with the precedent-setting Insite supervised injection site, which, regardless of some people’s ill-informed moral judgment, has saved many lives.

This February, we sent every MLA a proposal for a provincial pilot program. We asked them to step up to the plate and fight for the lives of their constituents. Some MLAs are listening. Privately many MLAs have expressed their strong support, but none have requested that an “exploratory committee” be struck to further the idea.

The B.C. chapter of the CMCP has been lobbying our provincial government to strike a task force to set parameters for a provincial medical cannabis program under Section 56 of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.

The proposal is designed to start a process that will develop a system that puts the needs of patients first while meeting the needs of government—that will prevent citizens and government staff from being placed in dangerous situations due to the criminalization of this medicinal plant. Of course, removing cannabis from prohibition would resolve the criminal activity issues as it would no longer be profitable for criminals to be involved.

Check out the incredible results from Portugal. After 10 years of anti-prohibition—lower crime rates, lower drug use (including a significant drop in drug use amongst youth), and medical treatment for addicts instead of criminalization. That being said, prohibition is a very long way away in our country. I would love to be proven wrong on that point. In the meantime, let’s find a way to remove our most vulnerable from harm’s way, provide education to both doctors and citizens, reduce our health-care budgets, and give people a opportunity for a better quality of life. How can we, with any sanity, consider euthanasia when we deny access to cannabis which benefits ALS/Lou Gehrig’s disease? Insanity!

Do you know that there is not one recorded death due to overdose or side effects of cannabis? Do you know that cannabis leaves juiced through a wheat grass juicer are incredible medicine and deliver no euphoric high? This is only one of many ways to titrate cannabis. New science! But due to the attitude of our governments that discourage research, this fact is only now being discovered. This harmless little plant has been lied about and propagandized for so many years that most people believe the lies to be truth. Cannabis was listed in the doctors’ pharmacopeia from 1850 to 1943. Since it was removed and pharmaceuticals were included, western doctors lost their education in the power of the cannabis plant. There are over 20,000 peer-reviewed studies on the benefits of cannabis. Yep, you are being lied to when “they” tell you cannabis needs to be studied more. Cannabis doesn’t need to be studied more. “They” need to study the studies already done.

Write your MLAs. Go to all-candidates forums. Ask each candidate if they support a provincial medical cannabis program. Let them know you want a better health system. Tell them to ask us for the proposal.

Your voice can change the direction of health care in this country. It’s time that government stop abusing its most vulnerable people—the sick and the weak. It is time that our politicians stand up for what is right and not for what is profitable or status quo.

Sign our Avaaz petition and help let our wannabe leaders know that they must be accountable. Help us promote the truth about this innocent plant.

Joy Davies is the director of the B.C. Medical Cannabis Partners.
 
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from http://cannabisdigest.ca/group-fights-for-patients-in-bc/

Group Fights for Patients in BC

By Joy Davies

“Don’t Kill My Family”. Those were the words on the sign that hung around David’s neck as he paced back and forth in the bitter cold rain on this Feb. morning, on the lawn of his Member of Parliament’s office. He joined the BC Medical Cannabis Partners and others who came to a national day of protest against Health Canada’s MMAR changes. These changes could cause the death of the second member of this family in just over two years. David, a retired British military pilot and father of four, lost his wife to breast cancer. They knew nothing of cannabis or its medicinal properties, such as how it caused cancerous tumours to eat themselves. The traditional barrage of doctors did not save his wife. They never offered cannabis. The day he had to put his loving wife into palliative care, their teenage daughter Beth was diagnosed with a rare type of brain tumour. His wife died not knowing of the tragic diagnosis of her daughter. David never had time to mourn her death, as he immediately had to find a way to safe Beth’s life. Beth was 17.

While researching, David came across the word “cannabinoids”. That night, a new journey began for him—a journey that brought hope for Beth. He brought the information to Beth’s oncologist. After a long discussion, Beth’s oncologist agreed to sign her Health Canada MMAR papers, which would allow David to grow her medicine and make the oil that he hoped would save her life. The oncologist had never signed any other patient’s papers before. Beth turned 20 last month. Statistically, Beth should have left this earth 18 months earlier. There have been highs and there have been lows. The lows include four brain surgeries, and her dropping out of university. The highs have been negative MRIs, meaning no tumours. The cannabis oil is working, and there is hope, but she is not completely out of the woods. More experimental natural treatment is coming, and hopefully will be the missing piece to her life-saving puzzle.

David has been spending about $200 a month to grow Beth’s licensed medicine and make the high-grade cannabis oil. Now, with the proposed Health Canada changes, David faces having to spend about $3000 a month, and he will not be allowed to make the oil. How can he possibly afford to pay this? What are his choices? Go into debt to pay for the Harper government’s program that stops patients from growing their medicine? Pick a seller from an Internet site and pay the “new prices”? Stop giving the oil to Beth and lose hope? Become a criminal and grow the plant that could save his child’s life? Not one of those choices is rational.

Now, on the eve of a provincial election, the Canadian Medical Cannabis Partners (CMCP) are urging taxpayers to support a provincial medical cannabis program. Real leaders facilitate improvements, not penalties for patients. Medical Cannabis has been legal in Canada for past 12 years, but the program has been poorly run by the federal government.

CMCP is polling all MLAs and candidates before the May 14 vote. B.C. needs a compassionate program that puts the health needs of patients first. “Let them know you want a better health system,” David said, adding, “Your voice can change the direction of health care in this country.” David, a key member, urges you to write your MLA, asking for their position on a Provincial Medical Cannabis Program. He says a message must be sent to all candidates in all ridings that, “it’s time for government to stop abusing its most vulnerable people—the sick and the weak.”

This past Feb., the Partners sent every B.C. MLA a proposal for a provincial program, asking them to step up to the plate and fight for the lives of their constituents. David says that “some MLAs are listening”. Privately, many MLAs have expressed their strong support, but none have requested that an exploratory committee be struck to further the idea. Notably, B.C. opened the door to such a program with the precedent-setting “Insite” supervised injection site, which has saved many lives.

The Canadian Medical Cannabis Partners is a nonprofit organization of volunteer patients and caregivers who have been lobbying provincial governments to strike a task force to set parameters for a provincial medical cannabis program under Section 56 of the CDSA (Controlled Drugs & Substance Act). They are now active in six provinces, and continue to grow. Their goal is to keep the legalization of cannabis for medical purposes federal law while the provinces administer their program for their patients. The program would include patients’ recommendations, and have patients at the decision-making table. Patients are the biggest stakeholders in the change going on, but they were not consulted.

The CMCP’s proposal is designed to start a process that will develop a system that puts the needs of patients first while meeting the needs of government; a program that will eliminate patients, police, fire department staff, and citizens from being placed in dangerous situations due to the criminalization of this medicinal plant. Of course, repealing cannabis prohibition would resolve criminal activity issues, as it would no longer be profitable for criminals to be involved. Note the results in Portugal after 10 years of anti-prohibition—lower crime rates; lower drug use, including a significant drop in drug use amongst youth; and medical treatment for addicts instead of criminalization.

Non-prohibition is a long way off in our country, if it ever comes. David would love that point to be proven wrong. In the meantime, we need to find a way to remove our most vulnerable citizens from harm’s way. We need to provide education to doctors on all aspects of medicinal cannabis. We need reduce our health care budgets and give people a better quality of life.

In 2010 at UBCM, and in 2011 at FCM, our municipal leaders endorsed a resolution to “Decentralize the MMAR (Medical Marihuana Access Regulations) program into the province(s)”. It was a compassionate decision from municipal politicians across Canada. A proposal was written and submitted to both the B.C. and Federal Ministries of Health in 2011. There has been no action from either level of government.

Health Canada’s newly proposed program is worse than the existing one. Our Premier and Minister of Health continue to defer to the federal government. The lobbying efforts have been ongoing for four years, respectfully, through proper protocol. Two levels of government provided letters of support in principal. Still, our provincial leaders continue to say, “this is federal jurisdiction”. Many federal programs are delegated to the provinces, including another controversial one—meat processing. Canadians died due to the federal government’s inability to safely run the program. How many Canadians will die unnecessarily before the provinces step up to the plate with a medical cannabis program? How many more British Columbia citizens will commit suicide because they can’t cope with the pain they have been living with for so long, as they continue to use the numerous pharmaceuticals their physicians prescribe? And yet they don’t offer cannabis, which has been legal in Canada for 13 years, as an option.

In B.C. there were 10 thousand suicides in a 20-year period. According to the Vancouver Sun, in 2006, that was nearly four times more than the murder rate, and more than the number of deaths caused by car accidents. According to Dr. Raymond Lam, head of the Mood Disorders Centre at the University of B.C. Hospital, the most common reason for suicide was “an overwhelming sense of hopelessness”.
Cannabis provides hope. Cannabis leaves, juiced through a wheat grass juicer, is effective medicine, and delivers no euphoric high. But due to the attitude of our governments, which discourage research, this fact is only now being discovered. This harmless plant has been lied about and propagandized for so many years that most believe the lies are truth. Cannabis was listed in the doctors’ pharmacopeia from 1850 to 1943. Since it was removed and pharmaceuticals were included, western doctors lost their education in the power of the cannabis plant. There are over 20 thousand peer-reviewed studies on the benefits of cannabis. In 2011, more people were killed by pharmaceutical drugs than by car accidents. (See “The New Epidemic Sweeping Across America [and it’s Not a Disease]”, Dr. Joseph *******, Oct. 26, 2011).

Get engaged in this election!

Write your MLA. Share your story. Go to the All Candidates meeting. Ask each candidate how they will support a provincial medical cannabis program.

Sign the Avaaz petition started by the B.C. chapter of the Canadian Medical Cannabis partners :

<www.avaaz.org/en/petition/We_want_to_see_the_decentralization_of_the_Medical_Marijuana_Access_Regulations_MMAR_program_to_the_provinces>

Contact: Joy Davies, Director Cell: 604-910-8443

Email: <[email protected]>
 
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from http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/02/20130212-145919.html

Ontario man to take medical marijuana case to Supreme Court

February 12th, 2013

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Credits: KARENA WALTER

KARENA WALTER | QMI AGENCY

ST. CATHARINES, Ont. - A St. Catharines man who came close to changing Canada's medical marijuana laws before an Ontario court upheld them earlier this month plans to take his case to the Supreme Court.

"We got the ball rolling, kept rolling it," said Matthew Mernagh, 39, outside a courtroom in St. Catharines Tuesday. "It's way bigger than me. I'm kind of here for the ride."

Mernagh was in court Tuesday after his 2008 marijuana production charge was tossed back to the trial courts by the Ontario Court of Appeal.
Mernagh was charged in April 2008 after Niagara Regional Police found 70 pot plants in his St. apartment.

He claimed he needed marijuana to help ease symptoms of fibromyalgia, scoliosis and a seizure disorder, but was unable to get a doctor to sign a medical declaration.

The declarations are required under Canadian law in order to possess or produce marijuana for medical purposes.

St. Catharines Superior Court Judge Donald Taliano sided with Mernagh, finding in April 2011 that Canada's medical marijuana program failed to give legal access to sick people who need the drug largely because family doctors refuse to endorse the paperwork.

He also stayed the charges against Mernagh.

The Ontario Court of Appeal overturned the decision on Feb. 1, finding the trial judge erred in finding medical exemptions are practically unavailable. It quashed the decision and ordered a new trial.

Mernagh appeared in court Tuesday with a letter from his lawyer Paul Lewin, requesting the case be adjourned while they seek leave to appeal to the Supreme Court.

Lewin said patients with severe illnesses should be entitled to medical marijuana, but many doctors aren't comfortable signing declarations for something that's not an approved drug.

"There's a lot of hostility and distrust by the medical community towards medical marijuana," he said.

Mernagh said he couldn't find a family doctor in St. Catharines and trying to get a doctor at a walk-in clinic to sign a declaration was impossible.

"It was way easier to grow than to find a family doctor," he said. "It's an unusual problem to have. The program was designed to fail."

The court battle has thrust Mernagh into the spotlight as a medical marijuana crusader. He has a webcast in Toronto on Pot TV and gets daily e-mails from people looking for legal help.
 

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Ive have a des license for 59 plants in the production site .. My problem is my clonning for some reason is failing hard .. They root but there going through so much stress and its taking upwards of 2 weeks for then to root then 2 more weeks for them to show sign of vigor .
Im sure ill figure this problem out..


Now with the problem im having I really see a need for a "stock room" .

What is a reasonable amount of plants to start in my "stock room " So i can pick put my best 59 to go into my production room ? Is 4:1 a reasonable raitio ?

So i could take 200 clones and keep the best 59 and through them into my production room and then cull the other 150?

Is there any rules of thumbs on this .. I know when i was on a family members farm that he started like 100 plants of each variety and kept 10 so 10:1 ratio .. Im just what you guys think is a respectable raitio for indoor cannabis growing only?
 

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Ive have a des license for 59 plants in the production site .. My problem is my clonning for some reason is failing hard .. They root but there going through so much stress and its taking upwards of 2 weeks for then to root then 2 more weeks for them to show sign of vigor .
Im sure ill figure this problem out..


Now with the problem im having I really see a need for a "stock room" .

What is a reasonable amount of plants to start in my "stock room " So i can pick put my best 59 to go into my production room ? Is 4:1 a reasonable raitio ?

So i could take 200 clones and keep the best 59 and through them into my production room and then cull the other 150?

Is there any rules of thumbs on this .. I know when i was on a family members farm that he started like 100 plants of each variety and kept 10 so 10:1 ratio .. Im just what you guys think is a respectable raitio for indoor cannabis growing only?


let you know in sept how "they" feel about it.
 

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My patient heard from Health Canada today, that her renewal will be here in about 10 days. She did nothing wrong and that will put her renewal at just over 10 weeks to process. Good thing we got the paperwork in 12 weeks in advance of the expiry date. New PPL's must be longer. Peace GS
 

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health canada is trying to tell my patient that my commisionaires report is a photocopy, and sent it back, when it is the original. meat heads

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Green Supreme

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They are not accepting the old reports from Commissionaires. You now have to get the finger prints one before they will accept from Commissionaires. That is why I got mine from VPD. No prints necessary. Good luck. Peace GS
 

med-man

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ya man, its the fingerprint/rcmp validated com check?

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PARADOX

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also went into the local popo shop and just got a background check for my work. na questions for finger prints. they asked what it was for and told them a new job working as a plant manager. Pretty easy
 

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When i went in to the police station to get background i told them what i was doing when she asked . I said i need it for health Canada for growing cannabis . She replied " yea like I'm going to give you one for that " I replied can i see your supervisor . She was a little heated Maybe she thought i was joking at 1st but she came right back and said that shouldn't be a problem . :) Kinda weird its a record of myself i should be able to do as i please. The hoops we have to jump through right
 

GI JO

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What is the largest gpd that anyone has heard of? I am asking because I have a ppl for 12gpd and someone I know told me yesterday that she had seen a doctor who was going to recommend 60 gpd. This was a doc that someone directed her to, she paid $250 to see him. Sounds like bs to me.
 

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I've heard of 100g per day on ctv news , Ive heard of 750 g bper day for juicing in this thread. but i know someone that's got 50g a day so its probly on the level . 60 gpd is only 3 handfuls a day . And it you consume it raw you could consume alot more then this and never be high but benefit from the non phyco active components of cannabis . I believe that cbd are active with out heat and most medical paitents need cbds. Dont quote me on that :p
 
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