September 13. Peace GS
Health Canada finally made their announcement.
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It took 20 weeks to get my license start to finish after seeing a specialist. Doctors can be pretty slow filling out paper work and health
canada can be even slower ... Get all your papers and photos in order now your cutting it close
Same for me 9 week!
Congrats Paradox and Overbudget. Peace vGS
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Yay
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I really don't believe much of what HC says, their current claim is that there are 26,000 licensee's, a friend of mine had a license years ago (crohn's) and his # was 10,000, my license from 2012 was 89,000, a friend with a more recent license is 98,000.
I'd say there's more going on than meets the eye.
I'd say there's more going on than meets the eye.
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To support my arguement, I offer an article that shows how the Harper gov't wanted to abolish a law requiring the media to be honest.
Why would our Primeminister want to be able to lie in the press?
http://current.com/community/93843544_fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada.htm
By Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Reader Supported News
As America's middle class battles for its survival on the Wisconsin barricades - against various Koch Oil surrogates and the corporate toadies at Fox News - fans of enlightenment, democracy and justice can take comfort from a significant victory north of the Wisconsin border. Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canadian regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right-wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.
Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast ... any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right-wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom. As a result of that law, Canadians enjoy high quality news coverage, including the kind of foreign affairs and investigative journalism that flourished in this country before Ronald Reagan abolished the "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987. Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the US airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish the anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non-partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio. Harper's proposal was timed to facilitate the launch of a new right-wing network, "Sun TV News" which Canadians call "Fox News North."
Harper, often referred to as "George W. Bush's Mini Me," is known for having mounted a Bush-like war on government scientists, data collectors, transparency, and enlightenment in general. He is a wizard of all the familiar tools of demagoguery; false patriotism, bigotry, fear, selfishness and belligerent religiosity.
Harper's attempts to make lying legal on Canadian television are a stark admission that right-wing political ideology can only dominate national debate through dishonest propaganda. Since corporate profit-taking is not an attractive vessel for populism, a political party or broadcast network that makes itself the tool of corporate and financial elites must lie to make its agenda popular with the public. In the Unites States, Fox News and talk radio, the sock puppets of billionaires and corporate robber barons, have become the masters of propaganda and distortion on the public airwaves. Fox News' notoriously biased and dishonest coverage of the Wisconsin's protests is a prime example of the brand of news coverage Canada has smartly avoided.
Why would our Primeminister want to be able to lie in the press?
http://current.com/community/93843544_fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada.htm
By Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Reader Supported News
As America's middle class battles for its survival on the Wisconsin barricades - against various Koch Oil surrogates and the corporate toadies at Fox News - fans of enlightenment, democracy and justice can take comfort from a significant victory north of the Wisconsin border. Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canadian regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right-wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.
Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast ... any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right-wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom. As a result of that law, Canadians enjoy high quality news coverage, including the kind of foreign affairs and investigative journalism that flourished in this country before Ronald Reagan abolished the "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987. Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the US airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish the anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non-partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio. Harper's proposal was timed to facilitate the launch of a new right-wing network, "Sun TV News" which Canadians call "Fox News North."
Harper, often referred to as "George W. Bush's Mini Me," is known for having mounted a Bush-like war on government scientists, data collectors, transparency, and enlightenment in general. He is a wizard of all the familiar tools of demagoguery; false patriotism, bigotry, fear, selfishness and belligerent religiosity.
Harper's attempts to make lying legal on Canadian television are a stark admission that right-wing political ideology can only dominate national debate through dishonest propaganda. Since corporate profit-taking is not an attractive vessel for populism, a political party or broadcast network that makes itself the tool of corporate and financial elites must lie to make its agenda popular with the public. In the Unites States, Fox News and talk radio, the sock puppets of billionaires and corporate robber barons, have become the masters of propaganda and distortion on the public airwaves. Fox News' notoriously biased and dishonest coverage of the Wisconsin's protests is a prime example of the brand of news coverage Canada has smartly avoided.
Hard to say without knowing what is really going to happen. If I had to guess, I would imagine all new licenses will still expire end of march 21014 as stated. Peace GS
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Don't hold your breath, that's a long way away.
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Health Canada stated that they won't issue any new licenses after September as there wouldn't be time to successfully complete the growing process before the proposed March 31 date, so if they amend the program as proposed, licenses will end March 31.
You obviously never read my response very well as you have echoed my sentiment. Too funny. Peace GS
funny, teemu and i were discussing this today.
if all licences are for 12 months unless otherwise specified, wouldnt it stabd to reason that all lic issued before march 14, 2014 last 12 months?
i know it is all speculation right now. my renweal will be up again next may, i think i will have till may 2014 to grow. just waiting for it in the mnail. i guess i will get my answer soon,
med-man
if all licences are for 12 months unless otherwise specified, wouldnt it stabd to reason that all lic issued before march 14, 2014 last 12 months?
i know it is all speculation right now. my renweal will be up again next may, i think i will have till may 2014 to grow. just waiting for it in the mnail. i guess i will get my answer soon,
med-man
To me it seems obvious they can make a license for any period of time conceivable; it's a program that exists in its entirety at the discretion of the minister, therefore health canada can, (and do) can really do anything they like unless challenged by a court ruling. There is no requirement of under the MMAR for a license to be of any specific minimum length, ergo anything the minister decrees, essentially goes.
None of us know 100% how it will play out, but I suspect their plan is to issue licenses of shorter periods of validity for the remaining PPL and DPL holders, and phase in longer licenses for commercial producers under the MMPR as producers qualify. I believe we'll start seeing any evidence in the coming weeks as new licenses and renewals start to come in. It should be any day we're seeing the new regs read into parliament; interesting times all around.
-Chimera
None of us know 100% how it will play out, but I suspect their plan is to issue licenses of shorter periods of validity for the remaining PPL and DPL holders, and phase in longer licenses for commercial producers under the MMPR as producers qualify. I believe we'll start seeing any evidence in the coming weeks as new licenses and renewals start to come in. It should be any day we're seeing the new regs read into parliament; interesting times all around.
-Chimera
Lots of hopes and wishes in this thread,
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I saw the preliminary documents on what they'd expect for commercial growers. Spoke of basic stuff like security, 24/7 surveillance and monitoring, etc.
What will it take, exactly, to apply for one? Anyone knows?
What will it take, exactly, to apply for one? Anyone knows?
If you read the proposed changes
http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/reg4-eng.html
You will get an idea of whats needed. Wait for the final changes to be released some time this month. That should include more detail like potential forms and other docs that are official for the mmpr.
http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/reg4-eng.html
You will get an idea of whats needed. Wait for the final changes to be released some time this month. That should include more detail like potential forms and other docs that are official for the mmpr.
