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Gerardbutler79

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Hey Dubi whats up. I wanted to get your thoughts on making feminised seeds with your select cuts? For example, your Vietnam Black with Gerrit's Zamal. I think of how well Charlie's mextiza came out and assume we'd get more "next level" plants with these fem crosses. Personally, all I can grow of yours are the fem seeds indoors. Have no room for any males unfortunately when growing these exotic sativas and can't do em outdoors where I live.
 

chefboy6969

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Personally, all I can grow of yours are the fem seeds indoors. Have no room for any males unfortunately when growing these exotic sativas and can't do em outdoors where I live.

Just curious as to WHY?, you can't grow regular seeds...OR do you NOT want too?....ANYONE can start regular seeds and get rid of the males and select the females they want...That's how it's been done for umm since marijuna has gone from sensimilla(with seeds) to sincemella(without seeds)...

No offense but you can grow regular seeds...it's a chioce

You just want only females...RIGHT?

peace
Chefboy
 

Gerardbutler79

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LOL I grow indoors dude. I've got no room for em. And I'm not a breeder. So what would I do with males? They're a waste of space for me. Especially when running a pure sativa, which by your tone I can tell you've never done so indoors. N sorry but lines like "kali mist" don't count :biggrin: LOL. We don't all live in the tropics buddy :tiphat:
 

zachrockbadenof

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fem's def have a place when space is limited... personally we have had not good luck with fem's.. our 1st try was rez's basic kush.. 1st 9 seeds males...not hermie's, full blown males...balls hanging everywhere... next up was rez's abusive kush... sowed 4 seeds..all ladies, but herb was sub-par... just sowed 2 (of 5) of VGS Bubba Kush S1... neither have sprouted after 4 weeks... just planted 2 more..

as u can see bad luck with fem's
 

HidingInTheHaze

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I think Dubi has said he doesn't like to feminize most landraces because they lose part of what makes them special.

One thing I like about Ace/CBG is that they don't go over board with the fems. I used to buy a lot of fem seeds but these days I always buy regular seeds.
 

Gerardbutler79

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I think Dubi has said he doesn't like to feminize most landraces because they lose part of what makes them special.

One thing I like about Ace/CBG is that they don't go over board with the fems. I used to buy a lot of fem seeds but these days I always buy regular seeds.

LOL. I think what makes them special is people being able to ENJOY THEM. Won't do anyone much good if they can't fit the plants in their grow room. And hey zach it sounds like u got untested seeds buddy. I've never had an issue with anything from ACE so you wouldn't have to worry about that.
 

chefboy6969

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LOL. I think what makes them special is people being able to ENJOY THEM. Won't do anyone much good if they can't fit the plants in their grow room. And hey zach it sounds like u got untested seeds buddy. I've never had an issue with anything from ACE so you wouldn't have to worry about that.

Honestly Gerardbutler79...you keep saying you don't have room..how much space does one or 2 extra plants take up, and once they are male, it's your choice...cull and toss or keep and use pollen..I think it's a no brainer..but don't spew bullshit about lack of room..and I don't appreciate your comments on my skills..You don't know who the fuck i am..as much as i don't know you...So please don't assume ANYTHING

peace
Chefboy
 

HidingInTheHaze

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LOL. I think what makes them special is people being able to ENJOY THEM. Won't do anyone much good if they can't fit the plants in their grow room. And hey zach it sounds like u got untested seeds buddy. I've never had an issue with anything from ACE so you wouldn't have to worry about that.


Well I think growers that want only fems of these type of genetics are in the minority.

If you look at Ace/CBG strains and breeding goals it would appear that they are about preservation and phenotypic diversity. Fem'ing kind of limits the potential of these strains to their customers.

Also, honestly almost any type of strain is manageable with the right type of growing skills. I've never had any trouble keeping even the most hardcore sativa's in check even in a small veg area. If you are hell bent on growing these type of strains maybe you should make accommodations for them instead of them making accommodations for you :)
 

Gerardbutler79

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Wow... ya know, geniuses like you two must be the reason I see so many thai stick and mango biche grows on here. Gotta be :laughing:
 

The Hatter

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To each their own. Some people like fem seeds, some don't. If you don't breed then the males just waste resources. I personally prefer regular seeds despite very limited grow space, but I can definitely see the usefulness of feminized seeds. The same is true of autos. I am not a fan of those either but they allow people who wouldn't be able to grow at all to do so which is pretty cool in its own right.

Ace does offer quite a wide selection of feminized versions of their regular strains.
 

Galactic

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I hope you are having a good day wherever you are Gerard. I honestly don't think you even grow and I really wish there was some good bud around your way for you to ease up.
 

The Hatter

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Wow... ya know, geniuses like you two must be the reason I see so many thai stick and mango biche grows on here. Gotta be :laughing:

You'd be surprised just how many people in the CBG and Ace crowd really do grow out some of the crazy land race stuff indoors. Both the Thia Stick and Mango Biche are very recent releases so there hasn't been enough time to grow them out since their release but I bet in a year or two if you check back there will be some die hard sativa growers who have grown these strains indoors.
 

Gerardbutler79

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Thanks for the sense-able feedback Hatter. I don't know what these guys are babbling about to be honest. I present an idea directed to Dubi, and they come butting in trying to slander it. lol wtf? I don't doubt that many attempt growing these indoors. But that isn't for me or most I know. I run lines that I can take to full potential. And thats my choice. I don't try to force it on others. And I don't go making claims about how I'm the minority or majority or whatever delusional thoughts chefboy has running thru his head LOL.
 

Bleiweis

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Why dont you just start regular seeds in small pots and flip the switch right away to 12/12? That way you could toss out the males in the beggining.
 

Ncali

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Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck! Some of the posts in here, YUCK! Fems are not inferior to regs in 99% of cases, but yes some breeders (of fems or regs) are inferior to others. Some peoples grows and expectations are *gasp* different than others. Some don't want to deal with the time and space for growing, identifying and culling males. Growing sativas indoors is challenging, spending EXTRA space to ID males in a grow situation where space is already at high premium well... I can see where fems are useful.


Why dont you just start regular seeds in small pots and flip the switch right away to 12/12? That way you could toss out the males in the beggining.

That would be sexing seed plants? Takes a lot longer than sexing clones, and stresses seed plants if you rush them into 12/12 (higher chance of hermaphodism) not to mention it still takes a while for most plants from seed to mature and show sex anyways. So the best practice would be grow seed, veg, clone, then sex, disregard mother/father plants that showed undesired sex traits. Long period of time invested there, as well as resources. Even if you did put seedlings straight to 12/12 you are still waiting on it to mature and sex... resource (space) + time investment is still higher than it would be for fems.

Right now there is a pretty good selection of fems from ace and cbg. Hazes, Central Americans, Africans... what strains where you looking for to be femd? Seems dubi has a lot of bases covered already.
 
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scai

I would say, it's allright to want fem's, if you don't have much space. And TIME.
If you have room for two or three plants, why do you want to waste a month or so for growing males, if you don't really need them?
They are no good for smoke.
Maybe you have two plants and they are both males, what a dissapointment.
You start again, and only one is female, and you already have lost two months...And you still have only one female, that takes a next few months to be ready for smoke..

I have a friend in other forum, who has a situation like that, and I feel for him when he gets a male that he doesn't want. Fems are expensive, and he doesn't have much money..
And I know he's struggling with space and grow...

I always want regulars if I can get them, but I understand why some people dont.
We all do what we can. So don't be so harsh to other people opinions or needs if you haven't been there...

Luckily, ACE does have few fems ;)
Something for everyone.
 

Gerardbutler79

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Hey Ncali, scai. I just posted in Charlie's section. I'm trying to figure out what made his mextiza such a success. Was it the Oaxacan79? or the NepJam. Not sure, but in either case it would be a good idea to experiment. I believe Charlie didn't keep the NepJam female so that leaves the Oaxacan79. Maybe a reversal and hit all their best lines with it. I also hope the mango biche gets worked with.
 

Gerardbutler79

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I hope you are having a good day wherever you are Gerard. I honestly don't think you even grow and I really wish there was some good bud around your way for you to ease up.

Didn't see this LOL. Hey galactic, you LEO or something? Get lost. Anyway I was just looking at pics of moon units C99 x Tom Hill Haze. Talk about stacked calyxes. Would love to see Tom Hill make s1's of this elusive haze "acid pheno" everyone talks about. And to those who think I'm against males for whatever reason I've kept X18 and Pine Tar Kush plants to collect pollen in the past tho I'm not sure its still viable. I really like that snowhigh is using the PTK in his OG kush breeding project. Pine flavor n beefy yields baby :tiphat:
 

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