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Bringing new cuts home

LEDNewbie

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So I'm bringing some new clones home. What is the best way to make sure I don't reinfect my room or infect with a different bug?

I have Avid, Forbid, Pylon Bomb, Triple Action Neem, Spectracide, Malathion and much more!!!! :laughing:

I was thinking when first getting them home giving them a dip in some Forbid. One week later giving them a "heat treatment" and then releasing a pylon bomb in the room. After that a weekly foliar feeding with OG Biowar Tea and a weekly foliar spray with Aptus Bio Shark "Dislike" wich is 5 essential oils that apparently repel all bugs.

If someone has a better formula or process that guarantees 100% success with bringing in potentially "dirty" girls please speak now!! :biggrin:

Thanks everyone :thank you:
 

medicalmj

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I'd take a 40x or so scope/lope to the location where ur getting the clones. Don't accept anything that has pests, period. If they look ok then once you get em back (I transpo in a sealed container and do the following in a bathtub away from room) mix a warm (90- 100F) solution of azamax and place the entire plant (including cup/cube) fully immersed into solution for 20 minutes (I use a small bucket). No part of the plant or roots should be out of the solution. If there is soil, when ur done soak roots in solution w whatever transpo stuff u like and remove all soil/debri by gentle agitating. You have bare root. Then transpo.

I did this a couple weeks ago on a cutting I really wanted but I trust no one. After 1 week the plant was rockin. On the other hand, my buddy decided to forgo said treatement and trusted someone. He just called me two days ago about a silvery look and some black dots on leaves and thought he seen something move quickly under leaf, he got thrips from someone who promised they didn't have pests.
 

LEDNewbie

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So your saying to dip the entire clone in azamax roots and all?? And leave it in there for 20 minutes? So if I made a 5 gallon bucket of this stuff I could just throw all 30 clones in there? This won't kill them? My last experience with azamax wasn't soo good. Burned leafs and sick looking plants after treatment. What dosage of azamax do you recommend? Any surfactants? Thanks.
 

Granger2

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Medi is on the right track, but I would use Azasol instead. No oil=no phytotoxicity. Instantly soluble. Same price range. Much longer shelf life. More systemic. Dunk everything above ground, then immerse container for 30 mins with solution level higher than container. Even if you can find no pests by examining them, treat them anyway before taking them into your grow. Good luck. -granger
 
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TribalSeeds

If I were getting clones from a random source again I would also treat them with something like eagle20 and then take cuts from them and flower out the cuts.
 

intotheunknown

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If possible, I would quarantine them.
Do you know that these clones DO in fact have pests? Thats one thing I would make damn sure of before you take them.

I would quarantine, keep a close eye on them for pests, use neem oil foliars on the regular for prevention until youre satisfied there are no pests. Soil? whats the medium?
also as a preventative if using soil, and can quarantine... look into some mosquito dunks as well. So if there are any larvae festering in the soil they will help kill them off before you start hatching eggs.

dyna-gro neem oil @ 1/4 tsp
dyna-gro pro-tekt silica (emulsifier also a benefit from silica)@1/4 tsp
mix those 2 together well and mix to 1 quart or a 32oz spray bottle of clean water.

I would not go bombarding them with all these unnecessary things, not even being sure you have pests.
Like MEDI said, no sense in killing a mosquito with a sledge.

I cannot guarantee that this WILL work for you... all I can do is speak from experience.
 

LEDNewbie

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All I know is the guy getting them for me said he wouldn't guarantee no mites..... he said he supplies to people anywhere from 1000-5000 clones a month and only gets them from these two guys.

I have azamax sitting on the shelf. Guess I'll just wait to hear back from medi on what dosage he recommends...?

I believe the clones are coming in jiffy cubes and I will be transplanting into canna coco.
 

dansbuds

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Keep them away from your grow room for at least a week . if its just mights your worried about ... a floromite dip 2 or 3 times in that week will kill any mites or eggs off . i doubt you'd have aphids or anything like that if its in a plug or RW cube . but a scope inspection wouldn't hurt before you dropped it in fresh coco .

No need to set off an A bomb to kill a few critters that might be on a clone . if its that badly infested , then don't even consider bringing it in .
 

Granger2

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Root Aphids can be brought in in any medium. A Root Aphid infestation is the gift that keeps on taking. Quarantine, treat foliage and roots-and container. Be safe. Good luck. -granger
 

medicalmj

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So your saying to dip the entire clone in azamax roots and all?? And leave it in there for 20 minutes? So if I made a 5 gallon bucket of this stuff I could just throw all 30 clones in there? This won't kill them? My last experience with azamax wasn't soo good. Burned leafs and sick looking plants after treatment. What dosage of azamax do you recommend? Any surfactants? Thanks.

Use 100% neem oil instead (if ur leary of azamax) w a surfactant. I use cocowet. No it won't kill them. Go 10 minute if ur worried.

You don't need surfactant w azamax. rates depend on app. but I have used 1/2 oz gal for the dunks. I like too save aza for root drenches only. $$$

I always use neem and karanja together, which is what I used last time on dunks. hard to find karanja tho. You'll stiil need to figure out what to do if some eggs hatch or if PM shows up.

Best is too check em really good first and quarantine for a couple weeks like others said. Wouldn't hurt to take a peek at the grow room if poss. and check for pest damage. You'd be suprised at the people who talk it up and in 5 seconds I notice some pest/issue. Then I have to change clothes b4 going to my room.
 

LEDNewbie

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All I have to say is FUCK!!!

Reason I have to take these clones is cause I have no other option!!! I have no way of getting any other clones and my whole last vegging crop was wiped out by broads!!! My ppp seedlings won't be ready for at least 60 days by the time I sex them to figure out wich are the females, re veg, clone them and etc.... can't have the room sitting for that long. Was hoping to do a run with this rock star kush, then next round be fully ready to run my ppp...

Guess I could bring my 20X loop with me to see if I see anything??? But even if I don't see something doesn't mean they are clean! Quarantine is tough. I could keep them in my lung room which is the other half of my garage but if there are bugs they would be really close to my grow room! Only other option is maybe my furnace room but I don't really want bugs in my house either!!!! FML!!!!!!
 

Phillthy

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dip in forbid. this will kill on contact and kill eggs. 3 or 4 days later hit them with avid. you should be good.
 

medicalmj

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You may NOt want to spray/dunk w anything and just keep em isolated and check daily. If you find something, then attack.

Lot's of angles on what to do when getting clones. And I should follow by saying that daily inspections for the following week or 2 is key. While you should keep these away from your veg plants, you don't have anything in flower and you veg plants are small so any potential problem can be easily handled.
 

LEDNewbie

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When I first bring clones home on saturday could I make a light nute mix with some merit 75wp in it and dip the roots and jiffy cube in that to take care of any possible root bound pests. Then dip the rest of the plant in some forbid. Would that not eradicate any and all possible pests?

What are the negatives to taking this approach? Are the negatives just that I'm pumping a bunch of bad chemicals threw them? Cause if that's it I don't really feel that's a big deal as the plants will grow 20x+ in size plus have over 90 days to get this stuff out of the system...... now if there is other negatives like these pesticides may kill my plants then thats another story.

Quarantine is out since I have no where else to bring them. So I gotta take care of any potential problems right out of the gate. I won't be able to do my transplant for a week cause when I went to buy my smart pots today they only had 5!!! I need 45 of them!

Thanks for the help and suggestions everyone!!!
 

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